Regor vs Wolfdale, which is better?

HEy all,

I am looking to upgrade my computer as it is slow as hell .........(1.2 ghz celeron tualatin)

Any way i am gettinga new mobo, CPU, RAM, and Case/PSU

I was considering a wolfdale e5200 but i recently switched to the Regor Athlon II X2, it is cheaper but clocked higher with the same cache as the wolfdale. and the mobo is also cheaper

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103688

Athlon Regor X2 240 AM3

how is this processor compared to the wolfdale?

Any replies are welcome and please reply if u read my question]

Thanks
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  1. if you are gonna go amd then get the 550 as it runs circles around 250 regor if your motherboard is gonna be a 710 or higher SB then you might be able to unlock the 2 other cores on the 550. gigabyte has a 84.99 motherboard that can unlock the cores if you get a good one not all are good 4 core chips with only 2 locked.
  2. but what are the benefits and advantages over each other? and disadvantages?

    like the Regor comes with VT
    The e5200 doesn't

    the e5200 is great for OCing
    is the Regor good for OCing?
  3. I am going to use a gigabyte mobo with a 785g chipsetbut i want to spend under 300 on this upgrade
  4. i seen a 250 run solid at 3.855ghz 24/7
  5. Upendra09 said:
    I am going to use a gigabyte mobo with a 785g chipsetbut i want to spend under 300 on this upgrade


    Check this puppy out
  6. Upendra09 said:
    HEy all,

    I am looking to upgrade my computer as it is slow as hell .........(1.2 ghz celeron tualatin)


    Ah, the Tualeron. They were pretty good chips back in the day and still can work well as the brains behind a standard-def HTPC or file server. My file server has a PIII 1.0B Coppermine, which is a bit older and noticeably slower than your 1.2 Tualatin.

    Quote:
    Any way i am gettinga new mobo, CPU, RAM, and Case/PSU

    I was considering a wolfdale e5200 but i recently switched to the Regor Athlon II X2, it is cheaper but clocked higher with the same cache as the wolfdale. and the mobo is also cheaper

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103688

    Athlon Regor X2 240 AM3

    how is this processor compared to the wolfdale?

    Any replies are welcome and please reply if u read my question]

    Thanks


    The Athlon II X2 240 is faster at stock speeds than the Pentium Dual Core E5200. The E5200 can overclock a little farther than the X2 240, but it's not a huge margin. Most people who OC E5200s run them a little over 4 GHz and most Athlon II overclockers run their at just a little under 4 GHz. So all in all, I would pick the Athlon II X2 240 if I was not intending to overclock, since it's faster at stock and the parts are less expensive. If I was going to overclock, the E5200 is a little faster but a little more expensive, so it's a toss-up.
  7. The AMD Athlon II X2 240 is faster than the E5200 when both are at stock speeds. The E5200 overclocks better though and thus should come out on top with both oveclocked. Of course, overclocking the E5200 as such requires the investment of a good board (cheap boards have trouble taking it over 3.0Ghz) while the 240 can make do with a cheaper board to overclock reasonably well.
  8. megamanx00 said:
    The AMD Athlon II X2 240 is faster than the E5200 when both are at stock speeds. The E5200 overclocks better though and thus should come out on top with both oveclocked. Of course, overclocking the E5200 as such requires the investment of a good board (cheap boards have trouble taking it over 3.0Ghz) while the 240 can make do with a cheaper board to overclock reasonably well.


    Probably the best cheap-overclocking CPU would be the Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition as it has an unlocked multiplier. You can run it with cheap RAM that won't overclock worth a crap and on inexpensive motherboards that are poor HT clock overclockers. Any inexpensive 780G board with CPU Vcore controls and support for 140 W CPUs should be plenty to put a good overclock on the 550BE. However, the 550BE is about twice the price of the Athlon II 240, so it's a thought.
  9. I'd go with the regor over the wolfdale if I were you. the Regor is an AM3 chip and will be able to be used in a wider range of mobos, especially in the future. AMD is also coming out with a lot of chips very comparable to the intel chips at a budget friendly price. So you could upgrade to a Phenom II X2, X3, or X4 later on if you feel your rig needs a little extra speed.
  10. the most important question is, what will you be using this for?
  11. noollig said:
    I'd go with the regor over the wolfdale if I were you. the Regor is an AM3 chip and will be able to be used in a wider range of mobos, especially in the future. AMD is also coming out with a lot of chips very comparable to the intel chips at a budget friendly price. So you could upgrade to a Phenom II X2, X3, or X4 later on if you feel your rig needs a little extra speed.


    That is what i thought, it is good for upgrading but also good for now.

    Uses:

    gaming, mild, just those download games that are color intensive

    heavy web surfing lots of tabs open on firefox and chrome + researching (around 8 -9 tabs at a time)

    Word docs open about 4-5 every time

    and future upgradibility

    for under $300

    i have an optical drive, HDD from old comp. IS ULTRADMA COMPATIBLE WITH THIS MOBO? IDK THE TYPE OF CONNECTION IT REQUIRES. PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION, I HAVE ASKED IT SEVERAL TIMES AND NO ONE ANSWERS ME.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
    gigabyte mobo AM3 mATX

    RAM is OCZ 4 gigs @800 mhz

    case Antec w/ 430 watt psu

    I need some good RAM overall upradibility, which is why i switched from my former e5200 setup to this, i can upgrade to a phenom II down the lane. or whatever new comes out
  12. can't tell on the regor core if ur talking about that.
  13. what do u mean? i haven't bought anything yet i am just looking.
  14. Well According to PassMark, the E5200 will be slightly faster than the Athlon II 240, but for whatever reason, if you get a Athlon II 245, ($65) you get a significant performance increase. This is all according to PassMark tests.

    So I would lean towards the Athlon because it is based on a newer more efficient platform and there is much more upgradeability with AM3 being a new thing.


    PassMark Scores:

    Intel E5200 ($65): 1260
    Intel E6300 ($83): 1811
    AMD AII 240 ($60): 1174
    AMD AII 245 ($65): 1796
    AMD AII 250 ($75): 1729 < Lower score than 245.
  15. @ habitat, that's what i was thinking about too, either waiting for the new i5 i3 to come out or just AMD for a few years
  16. Go with the AM3 setup. At least then you will have yourself open to future upgrades. S775 is a dead end. i3 is just a rebrand of core 2 from what I have heard.
  17. habitat87 said:
    No, it's actually i7 with one less memory controller and dmi instead of qpi. With different features and the option of dual and quad core.

    I think it's going to be a good overclocker if they don't limit these chips.

    Once I see that they do that, I am going to go right back to my e8600 plan. Lol!

    775 isn't really a dead end if nothing else can really compare to it's capabilities.



    This is the last I had seen on it and did not give it anymore thought afterwards with regards to i3. If this is now no longer correct then I apologize. S775 is dead due to no upgrade path either way. AM3 and S1366 currently do have an upgrade path. Even AM2+ is a bit better upgrade wise over S775 since AMD AM2+ 790 and some older chipsets support AM3 chips with just a bios update.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/97604/Details_on_Intel_s_Core_Brand_Product_Placement_Emerge_Gulftown_to_be_Named_Core_i9.html
  18. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=96&p2=66
    The Regor 250 beats the E5200 at most things, but that's stock, and the E5200 OCs very well. For the cost of the E5200 and the decent cooler needed to OC it, you can get a 550BE which also overclocks well enough on its stock cooler to still beat the E5200. So for you, since you are getting a new mobo, the E5200 is a non-answer.
  19. If you're spending the money on a 785g, get yourself a Phenom II 550. It will overclock nicely and you may be able to unlock the 3-4 cores.
  20. If you haven't bought anything yet you should wait for tomorrow. The new Athlon II X4 and Phenom II X4 965 BE are scheduled to be released on Aug 13th so there may be a price drop on some of the chips already out or maybe some new combo deals that will give you more options for your upgrade.
  21. ^^ Thanks alot, i needed that info, but is the Athlon IIX4 going to be worth it? are there any benchmarks yet?
  22. This benchmark review just popped up and I expect to see more between now and tomorrow.

    http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-8221-view-Athlon-X4-6xx-Propus-benchmarks.html

    not bad.
  23. well i heard the Athlon II X4 are out but i don't see them anywhere, but the 965BE is on Newegg.com
  24. Athlon II X4 release is now Aug 23rd. Looks like I gave some bad info earlier, sorry about that.
  25. its alright, i am not building soon anyway
  26. Whats more interesting than the 240, 550, E5300 or E6300 are two chips:-

    Athlon II X2 240e -- Dual Core -- 2.8GHz/2M-L2/45nm -- 45 W

    and

    Athlon II X4 605e -- Quad Core -- 2.3GHz/2M-L2/45nm -- 45W

    The 240e is 20 watts less than the 240. It's the same die and clock speed as the 65W 240 meaning it is bin sorted to be able to run at lower voltages. This usually means that it is a select quality part which -- at the same voltages as you would overclock a 240 at -- will probably run at faster clock speeds.

    The 605e is basically Phenom without the L3, so 4 x cores with 512MB L2 each. 2.3GHz at 45 watts. Again, being bin selected to run at low voltages, it'll probably overclock better than the 65W rated counterparts.
  27. when is the Athlon IIx4 coming out?
  28. I got a cheap P35 and stuck an E5300 (SLB9U) in it and run it @ 3.46 on stock voltage. Good little performer. Chews through the games with a decent graphics card.

    In hindsight I probably should have got the E5200 though.

    The main reason for stepping away from the LGA775 to an AM3 compatable mobo is the upgrade path ... perhaps getting a cheap dual core now and overclocking it, but having the option of sticking a faster quad core in it (which is also cheaper than comparable i7 or LGA775 quad core cpu's).

    MU's post is worth reading again - the BE cores allow you to put much less stress on the RAM and Mobo too.

    I like the 550 for that reason.

    The regor has comparable IPC to the core2 Penryns with 2MB cache (E5xxx).
  29. that's good and all but where is it and when is it coming out!???!??!
  30. well can't find it on newegg, nor ur link, i meant the quad core athlons reynod, stop stoning your cat
  31. Very soon... very very soon.
  32. Upendra09 said:
    when is the Athlon IIx4 coming out?


    Who knows?

    Reynod said:
    I got a cheap P35 and stuck an E5300 (SLB9U) in it and run it @ 3.46 on stock voltage. Good little performer. Chews through the games with a decent graphics card.


    Reynod! I thought you were AMD Special Forces... what made you switch to the darkside?

    Anyways, the e6300 is rough par clock for clock with my e4300 which also performs about the same as Regor chips clock for clock, it's just that I use Photoshop alot so I bought Intel (well got given by a nice forum member)
  33. dwightlooi said:
    Whats more interesting than the 240, 550, E5300 or E6300 are two chips:-

    Athlon II X2 240e -- Dual Core -- 2.8GHz/2M-L2/45nm -- 45 W

    and

    Athlon II X4 605e -- Quad Core -- 2.3GHz/2M-L2/45nm -- 45W

    The 240e is 20 watts less than the 240. It's the same die and clock speed as the 65W 240 meaning it is bin sorted to be able to run at lower voltages. This usually means that it is a select quality part which -- at the same voltages as you would overclock a 240 at -- will probably run at faster clock speeds.

    The 605e is basically Phenom without the L3, so 4 x cores with 512MB L2 each. 2.3GHz at 45 watts. Again, being bin selected to run at low voltages, it'll probably overclock better than the 65W rated counterparts.


    Ever heard of undervolting?

    It beats spending more for an EE chip.
  34. I didn't go to the dark side - they approached me.
  35. They only reason I like AMD is that when I killed my BE-2400, they offered a replacement... Phenom II X4 style.

    Other than that I enjoy my e4300 :P
  36. traitor!! how dare u deceive AMD, ........ THEY NEED YOUR MONEY!!!! OR ELSE THEY WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
  37. True.

    Casts hex on AFG ...

    *shazamm *
  38. Back to the topic, reynod your link show no propus core
  39. Just the x2 ... sorry ... realised that afterwards.

    Nothing yet on AMD.com either.

    Wait ... twill check with Charlie.
  40. It won't be long now. And, I can tell you (1st hand) that the 605e does run at 2.3GHz and 45W. It also didn't crash for 4 days straight at full load with a case temperature of 83 degree C (which is higher than its rated tCase) and the ambient temperature being 45 deg C.
  41. Reynod said:


    No, we were qualifying it for a commercial product. No OC allowed.
  42. Underclock it!
  43. what is it with the new avatars?


    Hey the propus is on Newegg. but way over my budget, for procs, i guess i will stick with the 240 which is half the price of the propus, FYI the propus is currently 126 USD, this is the 3rd day in a row it has gone up, it was 123 when i say it and now it is 126
  44. We Aussies don't care about Newegg.

    Ain't gonna help us.

    USD, not helpful.
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