Power-House All-Use/Gaming Rig

[WhiteWelcomer]

- Case: XClio A380BK
- Mobo: Asus P6T Deluxe V2 XOC w/ Turbo V
- CPU: Core i7 920 2.66GHz OC @ 3.33GHz w/ TurboBoost
- RAM: Patriot Viper 6GB (3x2GB) 1600 MHz OC @ 1800MHz
- GPU: HD Sapphire Radeon 4890 XOC 1GB GDDR5
- HD: Western Digital Caviar 1TB Black 3.0Gb/s
- Optic: 2x Sony Optiarc 24x/48x DVD/CD Burner Combo
- PSU: SeaSonic S12 550W
- Display: Asus 24" 1080p HD Widescreen 1920x1200
- Key/M: MicroSoft Wireless Desktop Pro 2.0
- Speakers: Creative Inspire T3100 2.1
- OS: MicroSoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit Edition
- Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Compound
- Extra Case Fan(s): RoseWill 120mm Fan
- Scythe 3000 92mm CPU Cooler

- Price - $1,835


~ System w/ only hardware (no Keyboard/Mouse or Speakers) - $1,750 / $1,665 after mail in rebates ~


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Thanx!

- WhiteWelcomer a.k.a. SevenWhite7

 

[jpdykes]

Good build.

Do you need the extra features of Vista Ultimate?

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

Not really, but it comes in a combo package with the 4890 XOC for $60 cheaper, and a $20 mail-in rebate. It's effectively the same price as getting them separate, and Home Premium instead.

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

How long do you think it'll last before I have to upgrade, given the all-too-familiar speed with which the Gaming Industry is expanding?

 

[Why_Me]

i7 build that includes two gtx 275's running in SLI, and monitor

You want to make sure you flash to the latest bios with that board, and then afterwards download the latest drivers for it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-nvidia-sli-motherboard,7463.html <--- Gigabyte: Enable SLI On X58 Boards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137 $74.99
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 $119.99 ($99.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-EX58U3R $178.99 | $163.99 after rebate Free Ground Shipping
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R Core i7/ Intel X58/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.192479 Combo Discount: -$7.00 Combo Price: $367.98 $20.00 Mail-In Rebate
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029 $39.99 Free Shipping*
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154003 $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130475 $249.99 ($229.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130475 $249.99 ($229.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030 $25.99 Free Shipping*
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM | New 24X burner from Sony Optiarc

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.186064 Combo Discount: -$20.00 Combo Price: $149.98
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005125 $229.99 Free Shipping*
LG W2353V-PF Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 50000:1 w/ Smart Package - Retail

Total: $1,692.88 | $1,597.88 w/mail in rebates

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

I'm going to assume you miss-posted in this thread, as your reply in no way answers any questions, nor critiques my build with which I opened this, my thread.
Am I correct in my assumption?

 

[Why_Me]

I'm going to assume you miss-posted in this thread, as your reply in no way answers any questions, nor critiques my build with which I opened this, my thread.
Am I correct in my assumption?

Here I'l help ya out. The title of the thread is; "Power-House All-Use/Gaming Rig" and after I saw your total cost was $1,700 I wanted to show you what a real "Power-House All-Use/Gaming Rig" is for that price.

In other words... critiquing your build...you posted a build that gives you a lot less for your money then what it should in order to be considered a; "Power-House All-Use/Gaming Rig"...unless I misread the title of this thread ?

 

[the_one111]

Here I'l help ya out. The title of the thread is; "Power-House All-Use/Gaming Rig" and after I saw your total cost was $1,700 I wanted to show you what a real "Power-House All-Use/Gaming Rig" is for that price.

In other words... critiquing your build...you posted a build that gives you a lot less for your money then what it should in order to be considered a; "Power-House All-Use/Gaming Rig"...unless I misread the title of this thread ?

Agreed.

This guy just made a awesome build for the same price and got you TWO graphics card instead of the ONE you had. Thank him much..

 

[Helloworld_98]

I'd swap the two cards out for two 4890's though, ATi's cards scale better in dual GPU formation.

 

[Kill@dor]

Very good build for the price... I think when its all said and done you will realize you won't need an upgrade for a long time...

 

[Fortunex]

I wouldn't bother with a 4890 unless you're grabbing the Sapphire Atomic Edition.

1GHz core clock =o

 

[Helloworld_98]

and hexus got it to 1020 with 4920mhz ram clock.

 

[radiowars]

I'd swap the two cards out for two 4890's though, ATi's cards scale better in dual GPU formation.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4890_CrossFire/9.html
If you SLI'd 2 GTX 275's most likely it would give greater or equal performance. The 4890s need to be OC to reach their full potential, that might be more difficult when you have 2 right next to each other.

Any combination is fine, but I just prefer 2 GTX 275s.

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

The build isn't better than what I posted, just different. What you spec'd isn't any more a PowerHouse than mine is, nor mine yours.
And you don't have to agree with me, for me to be right

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

Main Differences:
Yours has a more expensive Case.
You have to have a bigger/more expensive Power Supply (mine's 550W 'cause the two 4890 x2's only draw 43.7W ea. @ idle, 240.6W together @ peak).
I have a more expensive MotherBoard, 'cause it's better (IMHO).
I have Speakers and a Keyboard/Mouse included, you do not. Just pointing that out.
I have two Optical drives (you have one).
The 275's are slower than the 285's, and the 4890's are slightly faster than the 285's, and scale better in CrossFireX than the 285's do in SLI (i.e. 2x 4890's in dual-gpu solution = more for your money.)
You also have no OS incuded (Vista Ultimate, in my build adds $185)

If I took out the Speakers, Keyboard/Mouse, one Optical drive, and added another 4890, they'd be very close, with only minor (personal prefference) differences (i.e. GPU's, Monitor, Case etc...)

 

[radiowars]

Main Differences:
Yours has a more expensive Case.
You have to have a bigger/more expensive Power Supply (mine's 550W 'cause the two 4890 x2's only draw 50W ea.).
I have a more expensive MotherBoard, 'cause it's better (IMHO).
I have Speakers and a Keyboard/Mouse included, you do not. Just pointing that out.
I have two Optical drives (you have one).
The 275's are slower than the 285's, and the 4890's are slightly faster than the 285's, and scale better in CrossFireX than the 285's do in SLI (i.e. 2x 4890's in dual-gpu solution = more for your money.)
You also have no OS incuded (Vista Ultimate, in my build adds $185)

If I took out the Speakers, Keyboard/Mouse, one Optical drive, and added another 4890, they'd be very close, with only minor (personal prefference) differences (i.e. GPU's, Monitor, Case etc...)

Lol...no,no,no.
4890's do NOT draw 50W of power lol, or else they wouldn't require a 6 pin connector. The Gigabyte mobo is fine. 2 Optical drives, who really cares, unless you're consistently burning CD's/DVD's.
GTX 275's are practically equal to GTX 285's, and the 4890 is slower than the GTX 275 unless OC to 950 and above (However, if you OC the GTX 275's pretty well, than they should compare to the 4890 OC.)

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.186064 Combo Discount: -$20.00 Combo Price: $154.98
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM


It was right there in the combo deal with the HD. Nice catch.

Also, Why_Me's build came with a CPU cooler and thermal paste.

One of the best reviewer sites http://www.techspot.com/review/164-radeon-4890-vs-geforce-gtx275/page2.html
Matches the 4890 with the GTX 275, both come out even.

Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,2266-14.html
Total power used is ~300W. Add another card on there and you're looking around 400W. If you have fans, OC (especially if you OC 2 4890's at least 11% increase in power draw, then you get pretty damn close to a 550W PSU running @ a perfect 80% efficiency. You want a 750W or above. Anything less, you'll just stress the *** out of your components.

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

- SeaSonic S12 550W: 88% efficiency - "Nice Catch"
Besides, even if you have to up it, you won't need 200W more. A 600W PSU would suffice (unless of course you went w/ the GTX 275 or 285).

Vista Home Premium is also about $85-$100 cheaper. My point still stands.
Were I to get Home Premium instead, in that combo, my build would be a few $ cheaper rather than a few $ more expensive.
The argument between the two builds is almost as pointless as an argument of semantics.

Again, you don't have to agree with me for me to be right.
I, once again, assert that it's a matter of opinion. The builds are very similar, and are priced very nearly within range of each other.

Thank you for proving my point, though =)
'Tis very much appreciated.

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

Excuse my mistake on the Watt consumption. 43.7W @ idle, 120.3W @ peak.
So, even if your computer was drawing 250W without the GPU (which, the two most power consuming parts in a system are the CPU, and GPU), the Core i7 never exceeds 130W (unless you tell it to), so everything else would have room to swim in the other 120W. Then, 2x 4890's add 240W peak. That leaves you @ 490W, when/if everything hits peak (assuming you use up all 120W of 'swim'-room).
You've still got 60W, AND it's an 88% efficiency PSU.
I rest my case.

 

[daidalas]

u like dishin out the advice more than taking it friend

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

I don't mind taking advice at all. I just defend my point(s) well.

 

[Why_Me]

- SeaSonic S12 550W: 88% efficiency - "Nice Catch"
Besides, even if you have to up it, you won't need 200W more. A 600W PSU would suffice (unless of course you went w/ the GTX 275 or 285).

Vista Home Premium is also about $85-$100 cheaper. My point still stands.
Were I to get Home Premium instead, in that combo, my build would be a few $ cheaper rather than a few $ more expensive.
The argument between the two builds is almost as pointless as an argument of semantics.

Again, you don't have to agree with me for me to be right.
I, once again, assert that it's a matter of opinion. The builds are very similar, and are priced very nearly within range of each other.

Thank you for proving my point, though =)
'Tis very much appreciated.

Maybe you should have clicked radiowars link. The 4890 uses more juice than the gtx 275. You are the first person on here that has even contemplated running two 4890's in Crossfire using a 550w psu.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,2266.html <--- gtx 275 reviews

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

Guess that makes me special =)

Aside from the fact that I know first hand it works, no problems. My friend set up something similar, with 2x 4890 XOC's in CrossFireX w/ that same 550W PSU, and it had yet to give him any issues.
You just can't buy poor quality PSU's; those PSU's are why most people swear the "need" for 750W, 900W etc...
They're 4890's; not 4870 x2's.

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

Now, if/when I were to get 4890 x2's, THEN I'd need something like an 88% efficiency 750W PSU.

 

[radiowars]

Now, if/when I were to get 4890 x2's, THEN I'd need something like an 88% efficiency 750W PSU.

I'm sorry, but if I recall, Why_Me's build had 2 GTX 275's in SLI, thus requiring at least a 750W PSU. You just completely defered the arguement.

 

[WhiteWelcomer]

You're ALMOST right. You see, the argument about the 750W PSU was pertaining to the fact that some believe I need one in my setup, whereas I do not, being that I have only ONE GPU in my setup; I said, when/if I were to have 2x 4890's, then I, too, WOULD, in fact, need a 750W PSU. If I posted something that appeared to you as contradictory, please, do inform me and I will do my best to clarify =).
Thank you in advance.