New Intel PCU explanations

[notrace]

I've been looking around the web for quite a while now and it's hard to process all this information on the new line of i3/i5/i7/i9's and such so i might as well just ask all of you!

So the i3 and i5's are basically just less expensive, less powerful PCU's than the i7's correct? And they will all be running on the new 1156 sockets?
Will the i9 be more powerful than the 1366 socket i7's?
Will the 1156 socket-ed i7's be just as well as the 1366 sockets?

And I'm sure the new line will all be more compatible with the new DX11 cards?
Thanks for the info d00ds.

 

[obsidian86]

the i3 an i5s would be using the same tech as the i7 but it would be a total new build from the ground up the top i5 would be bout 15% to 20% under the i7 an the i9 would be a hexa core but it only has bout 30% over the i7 975

 

[sanchz]

It's CPU (for Central Processing Unit)

 

[win7man]

i believe that the 1156 socket is the lower end one and the 1366 is higher end, the core i9 will work with the 1366 socket, and it will be 6 core with hyper threading, there for making it 12 threads. the core i5 and core i3 will run on the 1156 socket, and also upcoming i7s, as for the i9 on the 1156 im not sure. the core i5 i think will be in dual core and quad, though i believe it will not have hyper threading and should be seen in laptops as well, and as for the core i3 i think intel is trying to get it to be the new lower end budget possessor, something like the successor to the pentium dual core today

 

[notrace]

It's CPU (for Central Processing Unit)

Haha yeah, im so used to typing GPU i always mess them up

 

[notrace]

i believe that the 1156 socket is the lower end one and the 1366 is higher end, the core i9 will work with the 1366 socket, and it will be 6 core with hyper threading, there for making it 12 threads. the core i5 and core i3 will run on the 1156 socket, and also upcoming i7s, as for the i9 on the 1156 im not sure. the core i5 i think will be in dual core and quad, though i believe it will not have hyper threading and should be seen in laptops as well, and as for the core i3 i think intel is trying to get it to be the new lower end budget possessor, something like the successor to the pentium dual core today

That makes sense, but why would they make a lower end motherboard socket?

 

[archibael]

To lower costs so more people will buy it.

 

[Shadow703793]

1156 = i5/i3
1366 = i9/i7. (Note for those that have i7: Current i7 boards will need BIOS update for i9. Hope that your motherboard manufacture ships out a BIOS update )

 

[Helloworld_98]

^ but there's the i7 8xx series for 1156.

 

[notrace]

I see...

So if the 1156 series is going to be less powerful, then would the i7-860 be less powerful than the i7-920? Even though it has .14 faster clock? I mean according to this chart..

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Core-i3-i5-i7-Prices,8448.html

 

[archibael]

There will be some overlap in performance between the i7-8xx and i7-9xx series, though if the application is heavily memory throughput intensive the 9xx series will win out because 1366 has three channels of memory versus the 1156's two.

 

[win7man]

I see...

So if the 1156 series is going to be less powerful, then would the i7-860 be less powerful than the i7-920? Even though it has .14 faster clock? I mean according to this chart..

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Core-i3-i5-i7-Prices,8448.html

i get what ur saying, but i take it it may be the case that the 1366 socket can provide more power, but that the i7 860 maybe hasn't maxed out what the 1156 can provide, which is y the fastest i7 on the 1156 is 2.93 GHz were on the 1366 its 3.33 GHz, that and u will also have to take into consideration overclocking, one socket might be better for over clocking , or more power efficient that and realize that 1366 came first and is higher end, but 1156 might be enough power for those lower end i7s and that those lower end i7s may not include things like intel's visualization technology or turbo boost, or wtv its called, that and its possible there different sizes in nm

 

[win7man]

There will be some overlap in performance between the i7-8xx and i7-9xx series, though if the application is heavily memory throughput intensive the 9xx series will win out because 1366 has three channels of memory versus the 1156's two.

there we go, i think thats the answer we were all looking for

 

[Helloworld_98]

the i7 920 will win overall once you overclock it since it has a higher IPC.

but the i7 860 and 870 will win overall when all the CPU's are at stock clock speeds.

 

[Upendra09]

yes but the 860 won't have as good other parts of a proc as the 920, IPC,IMC etc.

 

[notrace]

But in the end the 920 will be more powerful than the 860 correct? Unless the 920 is not overclocked?

 

[notrace]

There will be some overlap in performance between the i7-8xx and i7-9xx series, though if the application is heavily memory throughput intensive the 9xx series will win out because 1366 has three channels of memory versus the 1156's two.

So say you're running Crysis, the 920 would be more effective since it's using an increased amount of RAM? Does it count towards multi-tasking as well?

 

[win7man]

So say you're running Crysis, the 920 would be more effective since it's using an increased amount of RAM? Does it count towards multi-tasking as well?

i suppose it could, but crysis requires a good GPU, were its not hard on the CPU, so either i7 should play it well as long as u have a good GPU

 

[archibael]

I'm not sure Crysis is memory hungry so much as it's GPU/CPU hungry. At least, not to the point that three-channel DDR3 is considerably more effective than two-channel.

I'm no expert on this, though. I'm a cheapskate, and will be going with an 1156 board myself for cost reasons alone.

 

[notrace]

LOL damn i was just using Crysis as an example of high memory usage...

Okay, lets say i'm running a ridiculously memory intensive program, the 920 would out perform the 860 correct?

 

[Shadow703793]

^ but there's the i7 8xx series for 1156.

True. Totally forgot that line.

At any rate this is more accurate:

i9 = bleeding edge
i7 = high end [this CPU was meant/designed more for server/workstation type of work actually, same with i9]
i5 = mid range
i3 = budget

 

[win7man]

LOL damn i was just using Crysis as an example of high memory usage...

Okay, lets say i'm running a ridiculously memory intensive program, the 920 would out perform the 860 correct?

yeah, for sure, but i think if u have enough ram, it would work just fine, unless ur doing hundreds of things at the same time

 

[notrace]

yeah, for sure, but i think if u have enough ram, it would work just fine, unless ur doing hundreds of things at the same time

I mean one my specialties is forgetting I'm running Company of Heroes in the background while starting up Crysis and torrenting a bunch of crap, while playing music from an external and burning a DVD at the same time...

 

[notrace]

True. Totally forgot that line.

At any rate this is more accurate:

i9 = bleeding edge
i7 = high end [this CPU was meant/designed more for server/workstation type of work actually, same with i9]
i5 = mid range
i3 = budget

Will the lowest end i9 be more powerful than the i7-975?

 

[win7man]

well, in that case, empty out ur wallet and get all u can