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August 15, 2009 7:40:46 PM

Gents:

I'm a faithful reader of NewEgg product reviews. I looked yesterday & today at buyer reviews for the new AMD_965 CPU.

I notice several low-rating reviews have been removed & the "Egg_count" upped from 4 to 5 ! Basically, the removed, low-score reviews said WHAT A WASTE! NOTHING NEW.

I figure the howling_dawg, hi-density AMD fanboyz at Toms' can clue me in. What gives? AMD would NEVER pressure paragon-of-virtue Da-Egg to push their over.priced, under.performing CPUz. Eh ??
August 15, 2009 8:06:11 PM

Nope. And I dont care if they did or didnt
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August 15, 2009 9:05:52 PM

You're right. They dropped a lot of them. I read, and possible last night/this early morning about people saying don't buy it buy the next lower one..... 955 I believe. I see this with memory a lot. Changes daily, kinda like their pricing. Guess they don't want the honest opinions any more.
Times must be getting tough over at the egg. I purchase there at least once a month.... but not last month and not this month either. Add that with all the economically enslaved, system builders, and weekend builders/updaters that don't have extra money because big business and our illustrious leaders ran the country into the ground and this is what you get. Hiding the truth to help your bottom line. Wow, sound like Enron doesn't it ? LOL
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August 15, 2009 9:25:15 PM

They might be dropping reviews from people who don't actually own the product...
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August 15, 2009 9:26:04 PM

They announced theyd be doing this a year ago or something?
Prior to that, they kept it all. Cant blame em, and especially their partners
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August 16, 2009 10:33:07 AM

they might be intel fanboys . I would have done the same thing if I was NewEgg. Maybe it hurts business. Anyway, I wouldn't know.
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August 16, 2009 11:14:56 AM

Newegg will often drop reviews from people that haven't bought the product.
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August 16, 2009 11:18:55 AM

OK, keep buying intel, and keep just listening. Good thing you never owned any huh?
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August 16, 2009 11:20:51 AM

I heard some people that never bought any are mad cause they did drop their comments.
Probly recomending ZZF theyre so mad
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August 16, 2009 2:31:10 PM

nss000 said:
Gents:

I'm a faithful reader of NewEgg product reviews. I looked yesterday & today at buyer reviews for the new AMD_965 CPU.

I notice several low-rating reviews have been removed & the "Egg_count" upped from 4 to 5 ! Basically, the removed, low-score reviews said WHAT A WASTE! NOTHING NEW.

I figure the howling_dawg, hi-density AMD fanboyz at Toms' can clue me in. What gives? AMD would NEVER pressure paragon-of-virtue Da-Egg to push their over.priced, under.performing CPUz. Eh ??


Because they where not reviews of the CPU by owners but rather opinions by Intel fan boys. I can care less about having an AMD or Intel CPU, I want the best performance for my money. I also don't want to read a bunch of idiots posting "this sucks, buy Intel" when looking to find information on a product. Then again, who in their right mind reads newegg reviews on a CPU when the web is full of quality reviews on web sites like Tom's, cnet, anandtech, maximumpc, etc.,
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August 16, 2009 6:49:48 PM

I care lots if NewEgg censors-ratings ... since I buy from NE and am looking hard at components for a new quad system. But, I build every 3-4 years, not every year and comments from experienced, frequent_builders ( including Toms ..) are a crucial element in my choice.
Bet I'm not the only one who DEPENDS on this kind of usrland input !
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August 16, 2009 7:02:10 PM

I believe if they are dropping reviews regardless if someone bought the product on their site or not it is wrong. If I am not mistaken, it is pretty easy to weed out the fanboys, people who don't have a clue on what their talking about, and also they have a voting section, did you find this review helpful? Right, or not, It should be easy to weed out the reviews that are BS.
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August 16, 2009 7:04:58 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
OK, keep buying intel, and keep just listening. Good thing you never owned any huh?


I built, own & run both Intel_P4 & AMD_5400+ kit. Prolly most folks who 'roll.their.own' have that kinda mix and think nothing special about it. Both of mine run Ubuntu and run it well.

Learning on a 6502_Apple, the new generation of QUADS appear like mainframes. That's good. Choosing and building my own personal mainframe system will be quite-da-blast. I think the younger, sophisticated, blasé builder takes exceptional performance for granted -- and miss out on the excitement!
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November 23, 2009 1:29:46 PM

Newegg is censoring my latest review and thought you might want to know about it. Personally I will not buy anything from Newegg again. Cherry picked reviews are WORTHLESS! Here is what happened to me:

I bought an 80GB solid state drive from Newegg. Says on the site it has a SATA interface. Doesn't say anything else about the interface. Also says it comes with software to migrate data from your current hard drive to the new drive. Doesn't offer any caveats as to what the migration software can or cannot handle. It seems like a good deal at $190 so I get one.

After wasting an entire Saturday from dawn to dusk trying to get the thing to work, I figure out that the drive conforms to the SATA II standard (eSATA) only. It is not backwards-compatible to SATA I, which is what my controller supports. There is no jumper on the drive to configure it for SATA I. I even went as far as upgrading my BIOS, as well as 50 other things I tried. Nothing worked. The drive is absolutely, 100% incompatible with SATA I. There is not a peep on the Newegg site about this limitation. There's nothing on any of the product data about this problem either.

Next problem: The so-called migration software simply does not work. The problem appears to be that my current drive (120GB) is larger than the solid state drive (80GB) and the software cannot handle migrating from a larger drive to a smaller drive, EVEN THOUGH I only have 60GB of data on my old drive! Obviously this would migrate just fine but the software simply does not work when the destination is smaller than the source. Again, not a word on the Newegg site or product packaging about this limitation.

So I write a review on the Newegg site to let others know about this problem. It doesn't show up. I check the next day... it's not there. I'm thinking WTF at this point. I check again the next day and realize they are not going to put up a review that discourages people from buying this worthless piece of junk.

So now I am telling EVERYONE I KNOW to boycott Newegg. I was a loyal customer until a few days ago, but as far as I'm concerned their reputation is destroyed. I am going to make sure that everyone knows the kind of FRAUD they are perpetuating with misleading product information and blocking reviews that disclose the misleading information intended to protect people from making the same mistake.
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November 23, 2009 4:45:18 PM

I bought 3 AMD PII X4 940 @ newegg and gave 3 stars and newegg dropped my review...
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November 23, 2009 6:25:50 PM

nss000 said:
I care lots if NewEgg censors-ratings ... since I buy from NE and am looking hard at components for a new quad system. But, I build every 3-4 years, not every year and comments from experienced, frequent_builders ( including Toms ..) are a crucial element in my choice.
Bet I'm not the only one who DEPENDS on this kind of usrland input !


If you DEPEND on newegg user input you've got real problems.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Phenom+II+965+review
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November 23, 2009 6:27:13 PM

peanutpc said:
I bought 3 AMD PII X4 940 @ newegg and gave 3 stars and newegg dropped my review...


So wait you bought a 940 BE, gave it 3 stars then bought an i7? :whistle: 
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November 23, 2009 7:58:45 PM

jennyh said:
So wait you bought a 940 BE, gave it 3 stars then bought an i7? :whistle: 


Impressive business skills, they piss off a customer enough to get him to buy a more expensive product. I'm impressed.
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November 23, 2009 8:15:53 PM

hines1957 said:
Newegg is censoring my latest review and thought you might want to know about it. Personally I will not buy anything from Newegg again. Cherry picked reviews are WORTHLESS! Here is what happened to me:

I bought an 80GB solid state drive from Newegg. Says on the site it has a SATA interface. Doesn't say anything else about the interface. Also says it comes with software to migrate data from your current hard drive to the new drive. Doesn't offer any caveats as to what the migration software can or cannot handle. It seems like a good deal at $190 so I get one.

After wasting an entire Saturday from dawn to dusk trying to get the thing to work, I figure out that the drive conforms to the SATA II standard (eSATA) only. It is not backwards-compatible to SATA I, which is what my controller supports. There is no jumper on the drive to configure it for SATA I. I even went as far as upgrading my BIOS, as well as 50 other things I tried. Nothing worked. The drive is absolutely, 100% incompatible with SATA I. There is not a peep on the Newegg site about this limitation. There's nothing on any of the product data about this problem either.

Next problem: The so-called migration software simply does not work. The problem appears to be that my current drive (120GB) is larger than the solid state drive (80GB) and the software cannot handle migrating from a larger drive to a smaller drive, EVEN THOUGH I only have 60GB of data on my old drive! Obviously this would migrate just fine but the software simply does not work when the destination is smaller than the source. Again, not a word on the Newegg site or product packaging about this limitation.

So I write a review on the Newegg site to let others know about this problem. It doesn't show up. I check the next day... it's not there. I'm thinking WTF at this point. I check again the next day and realize they are not going to put up a review that discourages people from buying this worthless piece of junk.

So now I am telling EVERYONE I KNOW to boycott Newegg. I was a loyal customer until a few days ago, but as far as I'm concerned their reputation is destroyed. I am going to make sure that everyone knows the kind of FRAUD they are perpetuating with misleading product information and blocking reviews that disclose the misleading information intended to protect people from making the same mistake.

Since I own an Intel SSD, and I have tested it on my older laptop which only supports SATA 1.5 Gb/s (on which it works flawlessly), I have exactly one thing to say about your claims.

You are full of it.
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November 23, 2009 8:53:34 PM

cjl said:
Since I own an Intel SSD, and I have tested it on my older laptop which only supports SATA 1.5 Gb/s (on which it works flawlessly), I have exactly one thing to say about your claims.

You are full of it.


?? I dont see the word Intel anywhere in his post...
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November 23, 2009 9:02:06 PM

As far as I know, Intel makes the only 80GB SSDs on newegg.

(the Kingston drives use the same controller, and should behave the same)
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November 23, 2009 9:04:45 PM

Ahh

I figured that would be a popular size, but apparently only Intel thinks so.
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November 23, 2009 9:13:22 PM

Yeah - the others seem to be powers of 2 - there are plenty of 64GB and 128GB drives, but very few intermediate sizes.
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November 24, 2009 12:47:15 PM

newegg reviews should be taken very lightly. many times i have seen negative reviews for hardware for the simple fact the person/s that bought them do not have the technical knowledge beyond plugging it in and expecting it to work.
they really need to segregate or remove completely reviews posted by people who did not buy the product from the egg. too many fanboy ball busters come in just attempting to lower a product rating.
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November 24, 2009 2:30:44 PM

hines1957 said:
Newegg is censoring my latest review and thought you might want to know about it. Personally I will not buy anything from Newegg again. Cherry picked reviews are WORTHLESS! Here is what happened to me:

I bought an 80GB solid state drive from Newegg. Says on the site it has a SATA interface. Doesn't say anything else about the interface. Also says it comes with software to migrate data from your current hard drive to the new drive. Doesn't offer any caveats as to what the migration software can or cannot handle. It seems like a good deal at $190 so I get one.

After wasting an entire Saturday from dawn to dusk trying to get the thing to work, I figure out that the drive conforms to the SATA II standard (eSATA) only. It is not backwards-compatible to SATA I, which is what my controller supports. There is no jumper on the drive to configure it for SATA I. I even went as far as upgrading my BIOS, as well as 50 other things I tried. Nothing worked. The drive is absolutely, 100% incompatible with SATA I. There is not a peep on the Newegg site about this limitation. There's nothing on any of the product data about this problem either.

Next problem: The so-called migration software simply does not work. The problem appears to be that my current drive (120GB) is larger than the solid state drive (80GB) and the software cannot handle migrating from a larger drive to a smaller drive, EVEN THOUGH I only have 60GB of data on my old drive! Obviously this would migrate just fine but the software simply does not work when the destination is smaller than the source. Again, not a word on the Newegg site or product packaging about this limitation.

So I write a review on the Newegg site to let others know about this problem. It doesn't show up. I check the next day... it's not there. I'm thinking WTF at this point. I check again the next day and realize they are not going to put up a review that discourages people from buying this worthless piece of junk.

So now I am telling EVERYONE I KNOW to boycott Newegg. I was a loyal customer until a few days ago, but as far as I'm concerned their reputation is destroyed. I am going to make sure that everyone knows the kind of FRAUD they are perpetuating with misleading product information and blocking reviews that disclose the misleading information intended to protect people from making the same mistake.


Sorry but this was your fault, you should have done your research before you purchased the SSD. Newegg is not de-frauding anyone, they just simply sell the product as is. Many users that purchase/purchased an SSD at this point already knew about this same issue. No need to boycott anyone, just educate yourself before you buy your hardware, this way you know beforehand what to expect.
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November 24, 2009 2:50:03 PM

nss000 said:
Gents:

I'm a faithful reader of NewEgg product reviews. I looked yesterday & today at buyer reviews for the new AMD_965 CPU.

I notice several low-rating reviews have been removed & the "Egg_count" upped from 4 to 5 ! Basically, the removed, low-score reviews said WHAT A WASTE! NOTHING NEW.

I figure the howling_dawg, hi-density AMD fanboyz at Toms' can clue me in. What gives? AMD would NEVER pressure paragon-of-virtue Da-Egg to push their over.priced, under.performing CPUz. Eh ??


I don't think the Egg should be entitled to post a negative review when it is clear that the user/users didn't know what they were doing in the first place. I saw several negative reviews that were just rediculous, for instance, one reviewer said that he didnt know that the 965 was not compatible with his AM2 ONLY board, or the fact that the user bent a pin because he didn't know how to seat the CPU properly.... Some products are just not meant to have 1 egg reviews when in fact they leave the assembly line in perfect working conditions, I can understand if a CPU is DOA ( 1 out of every 500 units ) but to have more than 10 negative reviews in a 4 week timeframe is just ridiculous. This is called HUMAN ERROR.. People need to know that building a PC takes patience, crasftmanship and at least a tad of knowledge...
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November 24, 2009 3:07:01 PM

hines1957 said:
Newegg is censoring my latest review and thought you might want to know about it.

Cherry picked reviews are WORTHLESS!

I am going to make sure that everyone knows the kind of FRAUD they are perpetuating with misleading product information and blocking reviews that disclose the misleading information intended to protect people from making the same mistake.


Hello Everyone,

hines1957, I couldn't agree with you more that cherry picked reviews would be worthless. What would be the point, right? As far as the miss-leading information, please understand that the information we provide comes straight from the manufacture and if there happens to be something incorrect, it would be highly appreciated that you Contact Us (http://www.newegg.com/HelpInfo/OverView.aspx#ContactUsT...) so the situation can be investigated and corrected accordingly. Product reviews are not the place to submit website corrections and I apologize if this wasn't relayed to you as your input would be of great benefit to other customers.

The product reviews are meant to represent the product itself only. Here are the things that we advise will prevent your review from being posted:
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-Prices and availability can change very quickly on the Newegg.com website, so please leave such information out of your review.
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November 24, 2009 3:44:54 PM

cjl said:
Since I own an Intel SSD, and I have tested it on my older laptop which only supports SATA 1.5 Gb/s (on which it works flawlessly), I have exactly one thing to say about your claims.

You are full of it.


Did you install a DANE-ELEC DA-SDM25-80G-N-T-MK 1.8" with 2.5" adapter SSD Migration Kit? Perhaps other form factors incorporating Intel SSDs are backwards compatible with SATA I. I don't really care as I am talking about the item I specifically got from Newegg.

Do not question my integrity. I described the situation truthfully and completely. I can just as easily call your integrity into question from a single anonymous internet encounter.
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November 24, 2009 4:03:00 PM

hines1957 said:
Did you install a DANE-ELEC DA-SDM25-80G-N-T-MK 1.8" with 2.5" adapter SSD Migration Kit? Perhaps other form factors incorporating Intel SSDs are backwards compatible with SATA I. I don't really care as I am talking about the item I specifically got from Newegg.

Do not question my integrity. I described the situation truthfully and completely. I can just as easily call your integrity into question from a single anonymous internet encounter.


that is not the point here, the point is why would you buy something for your PC without fully knowing if it will be compatible or not. I personally know about 7 or 8 peeps here on Tom's that own SSD's and they do not have a single issue. Botton line, if you know what you are buying then your install should be breeze, if not then DONT BUY IT until you have done proper research...simple as that...
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November 24, 2009 4:10:53 PM

I personally don't trust the NA reviews in the slightest. I do my own research in earnest for great lengths before making any purchase, and none of that research includes sifting through the NA consumer reviews. Too many people instantly accuse/dismiss a product or the vendor when it is obvious user error is to blame. I prefer to cross reference proffessional reviews from different sites, and direct communication with those I can find (and trust) who actually own the product I am gathering infoz on.

Not to mention the fanboi effect. Uggh.
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November 25, 2009 4:29:21 PM

I do most all my Hardware shopping on newegg and I use their reviews in a sense. When I have my mind set on something I look at all the 1-2 egg reviews to see if there are any real problems. What to me doesn't count as problems but over 50% of the bad reviews have is for example;
DOA (happens),
The mail in rebate did not work,
It is incompatible with my system,
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