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Worth upgrading from an oc'd q6600 and 8800gtx to something newer?

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August 16, 2009 4:23:15 AM

I'm a gamer. Basically, I'm asking what percent higher framerates can I get if I upgrade to the latest and greatest? Let's say I don't want to spend over $800.

I run dual screen @ 1900x1200.

Sorry if this went in the wrong forum. I saw the "ask a question now" box on the right side and wasn't sure how exactly it worked.
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August 16, 2009 4:31:22 AM

Wait until the next series of ATI cards and core i5 come out and decide. You can check out Toms Charts and look at CPU/GPU benches to see how you stack up to the current things. If you ask me you could see quite a good increase, but I would wait until DX11 cards come out (hopefully within a couple months). Core i7/i5 are quite a good CPU upgrade as well. You are 2 generations behind! (2&3 gens on the GPU once the next round comes)
August 16, 2009 5:00:09 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-radeon-gefor...

hmm, the current generation of video cards don't even seem 50% faster than my 8800 gtx =/

Would I see a big increase in frame rate if I got a core i7 or i5 system and just overclocked it, vs buying a new cpu/mobo/memory and overclocked it + a new video card?
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August 16, 2009 5:55:04 AM

Jumping up to a newer graphic card while waiting to hear about the likely impact of the i5 on the i7 pricing would seem a good start.

I don't see how your going to get much bang for your buck going the i5 route as you already have an overclocked Kenty and they are not much slower that i7 on most stuff you want to play anyway (argueably about the same).

Here is something for you to look at in terms of some better cards.

Hope this helps.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/graphics/review/2009/01/0...
August 16, 2009 5:59:12 AM

^As mentioned above, graphics card would be the better immediate investment.

Here's an article about CPUs in terms of gaming. It's a little bit off of what you're asking specifically, but may help lean you away from focusing on the CPU so much if your main application is for gaming.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/multi-core-cpu,2280...
August 16, 2009 7:15:57 AM

you can try to live with your current rigg right now
seeing as there are no new demanding games

wait for dx11 and the gulftown i9s
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August 16, 2009 11:44:13 AM

But something like your rig would do the OP fine ... a nice GTX295.

BTW with the watercooling you could jack your FSB up a lot more if you wanted ... not that you need it right?

I wound mine back down a bit too ... so I could keep stock voltage.

August 16, 2009 7:19:41 PM

I had mine running at 1500 FSB. It crashes when I go past that. How much more do you think I can get out of it?
I have adequate cooling though and each of the cores never go past 60c at full load.
August 16, 2009 7:35:07 PM

Its not your chip, its your operating system :p 
you obviously did not hit a temperature barrier

this is my story
I have a Q6600 B3 with Corsair H50 cooling

I have it overclocked to 3.1ghz with load temps of 50C on each cores
In Vista I can't even overclock past 3.1ghz
I have Windows 7 on another drive, I overclock my processor to 3.4ghz and guess what it works

I have no idea why this is
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August 16, 2009 7:40:27 PM

For gaming, look first at the vga card, then make it a big enough jump to be noticed. If you upgrade to a GTX275 or GTX285, you would get a big enough boost to be appreciated.

Your Q6600 cpu is good enough to drive such a card, assuming the overclock it to 3.0 or better.

Are you at 4gb? If not, that is a cheap and effective upgrade.
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August 16, 2009 7:46:41 PM

Why do you ask "will I get more frame rates" ? What you should be looking for is more fluid game play. The 8800gtx is still a decent card but there are more out there that will give better game play at high settings with increased eye candy enabled. I've seen a lot of people who say that turning on AA, for example, doesn't make a difference at higher resolutions but I disagree. The cleaner and crisper you can make things look the better the gaming experiences IMO. The 8800gtx will "tank" in some newer games when AA is applied.
As far as spending $800 on a newer system, I'd wait a year or two. the i7 really isn't a big jump in performance as we speak. I'm not going to do it for that reason alone and I'm a nut for the next best thing. Gains are going to be minimal.

August 16, 2009 7:57:37 PM

So the consensus seems to be hold off on the CPU upgrade, but look into getting a new gfx card, or at least wait for the dx11 cards to hit?

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August 17, 2009 2:29:52 AM

DX11 cards will be out this fall and provide another jump in graphical performance with a new generation of cards. Personally if your able to play your games now, I'd wait a few months for a DX11 card.

Processor wise, the C2Q and Phenom II are nearly as powerful as I7 in games, you can look at the charts and see they're within a few fps on most games. My honest opinion is I7 is a waste of money for a gamer to purchase.
August 17, 2009 3:06:05 AM

I've got Q6600 G0 ticking on 3,6Ghz /1600 FSB/ with memories running on 1Ghz (ok, it's in my sig :D ) but i think it still rocks and will whatever i throw at it.
I'm thinking on VGA upgrade only.
August 17, 2009 3:16:38 AM

Vcore 1,45V
DDR2 2,2V
VTT 1,35V
MCH 1,35V
ICH 1,15V
ICHIO 1,65V

thanks :)  i had to raise everything a bit, but now its stable and doesn't go above 65C (stress test) on air.
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August 17, 2009 2:56:01 PM

Aweiously your going to get a much better result sticking a new graphics card in and running the Q @ 3 Ghz or so ... you won't get any better frame rates running at 3.6 with the same graphics card ... unless it is at Wolvenstein resolution.

Get a GTX or a 4870X2 if IT suits the games you like ... the Steam stuff. Check the reviews we suggested to make your mind up in terms of value.

You will relish the increase in eye candy ... makes the games more enjoyeable too !!

A second GTX8800 doesn't bode well in SLI for some of the newer games ... it is a bit hit and miss.

Hope this helps ... if you had posted in the graphics section the guys there are uber at this sort of advice ... I am bit a pleb in this regard ... sorry.

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