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May 12, 2009 7:18:58 PM

First and foremost - Thanks.
This forum and responses I have read so far are great.
I am in the situation of having to upgrade. I really have not kept up on anything over the past 3 years.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:Within 1-2 weeks.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming - This is going to be a game only system. I will use my current PC for all the "junk" stuff I do.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I have a monitor I will use in the short term (19 in LCD) - but in the long term will go bigger and better.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: No Preference - It's all about the $ but a little convenience is nice if can get all from one site.

PARTS PREFERENCES: No Preference. Always used Nvidia & AMD before - but I have no emotional attachment to anything.

OVERCLOCKING: No - Maybe in desperation later on.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Either - one card for now but build to add one later.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080++ in the future. Might look into a box or monitor that can show 2 systems or switch between two- again in the future.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: My only preference really is that it is open for upgrades. Drop in a 2nd card, upgrade chip, add memory is what I would expect to do over the next few years.

Also - I'll need to get some version of windows. I still have XP Pro and have held onto it with a death grip. I don't like a stage show in my OS - it is just an OS, I didn't buy a PC to use "windows" I bought it to use the apps I purchase - call me crazy I guess. So for me light and fast is what I want out of the OS - as little non-functional bells and whistles, but I'm not sure if that is even an option anymore.

Again truly thanks.


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May 12, 2009 7:23:44 PM

Since you have a 19" already, you can use it now, and later buy a new one, same as the card.

But, what would get the Budget? before I get started.
May 12, 2009 7:38:51 PM

Not sure what you mean by "what would get the Budget?"
My budget without monitor is about $1000.00 US.

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May 12, 2009 8:28:32 PM

Phenom x3 720 Rig, i've done like 3 or 4 of these today.

May 13, 2009 12:03:36 AM

Wow - I'm looking around at all the posts and still having trouble finding a "clear" build out list. I saw in one post you were going to post a link to a build out - did oyu ever do that?

thanks
May 13, 2009 2:46:34 PM

You can build a 4890/x3 720 rig here for that price.

Will get you one going shortly, at work and kinda busy a.t.m.

May 13, 2009 3:59:41 PM

Cool - thanks so much for your time.
This will really really help.
May 13, 2009 4:11:03 PM

Anything higher than a 1920x1080 resolution will need SLI or CrossfireX ^_^
May 13, 2009 4:33:13 PM

Thanks for pointing that out - I definetly want a board to support SLI or CrossfireX in the future.

What Board would you suggest to replace it with - I do not believe this one support either from my quick read of the specs.
May 13, 2009 4:42:59 PM

Let me see if i can find good parts for your build...i can't see what short stuff posted for some reason...keeps crashing my interent explorer. I think he haxed my work PC LOL!
May 13, 2009 4:47:04 PM

I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. That M4A79T Deluxe board has 4 PCI-E slots and supports full speed 16x crossfire.

You could actually save a bit and get this motherboard and RAM and still have the option of crossfire:

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99 - $15 MIR

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99
May 13, 2009 4:48:24 PM

If the link still crashes - the name of the thread is "Gaming PC $800 - $1000"
May 13, 2009 4:51:35 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. That M4A79T Deluxe board has 4 PCI-E slots and supports full speed 16x crossfire.

You could actually save a bit and get this motherboard and RAM and still have the option of crossfire:

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99 - $15 MIR

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99


Since it did not specifically say "crossfire" in the specs on newegg (anywhere I noticed) I didn't really make the connection.
My Bad.


May 13, 2009 4:54:42 PM

Here's what the full build looks like:

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.00

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99 - $15 MIR

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $65.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99

SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99 - $20 MIR

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model GH22LS30 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99

Total - $829.93 - $35 MIR's
May 13, 2009 4:55:12 PM

The problem on that board is you can run cross but one card will run x16 and the other x8...which will unbalance them...
May 13, 2009 4:56:27 PM

But then again...1 card is always a good choice. You really don't need crossfire...
May 13, 2009 5:01:13 PM

Kill@dor said:
The problem on that board is you can run cross but one card will run x16 and the other x8...which will unbalance them...

That's not true. Both cards will run at 8x link speed when in crossfire mode. That really doesn't cause any performance issues according to the latest benchmarks.
May 13, 2009 5:04:35 PM

It's never cut and dry is it *sigh*.
Does Crossfire (or SLI) really do more then a 25% bump. When it 1st came out and I was doing my last build the SLI/Xfire was not adding much to frame rates - it got you a good "bump" for the $'s - but did not double it of course.
I'd be ok dumping $ on an extra card in a couple years (or even now and having it last a couple extra years) to keep thing rolling well with new games.

I guess my thing is I don't want to be too limited - I expect that my income level will drastically drop in a couple years - so want o build out something that I can bump up a bit over the next couple years then be good with for a few years with no bumps.
May 13, 2009 5:19:24 PM

most of the time it will give you a 75% bump, sometimes it will give you even more than a 100% bump because the GPU was at 100% load and now it isn't.
May 13, 2009 5:22:59 PM

Well then it makes sense to do the Crossfire Right - with that in mind is the x8 link on this board OK?
Or is one that does the full 16x worth it?

Also - Can someone recommend the windows version that would be best?

May 13, 2009 5:24:48 PM

it does full 16x, it's just that in CF it split's it to 8x each, and that's enough for even top single GPU cards.

oh and vista64 FTW!!!
May 13, 2009 5:27:11 PM

Awesome!!!
So in general it is a good build no matter how you look at it.

Now - I still need to get windows. I guess I have to go vista for latest direct x right?

May 13, 2009 5:28:27 PM

i guess x8 is according to the post...
May 13, 2009 5:35:45 PM

I like shortstuffs build, if you want to lower the price a little, get the Asus 790GX and x3 720be Combo, its AM3 aswell.
May 13, 2009 5:44:33 PM

Just read up on windows 7 upgrade paths - so if you build your own - you can kiss the free upgrade away.

Maybe I should just get a mac.

May 13, 2009 5:44:38 PM

My board in my original build ( http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] 0#t1936992 ) runs at 16x in Dual, 16x,8x,8x in Tri and 8x in Quad. All you need is to run Crossfire with both at 16x and you get the full power of both your cards. shortstuff_mt's build is a good build, which saves you money over mine. Performance wise, I think you might see a little benefit with my board but I'm not sure if enough to cover the cost difference though.

shortstuff_mt: Thanks for linking my build in to this thread. I'm glad it gave a good starting point for another build.
May 13, 2009 5:48:56 PM

Noooo...don't submit to MAC's LOL
May 13, 2009 5:52:28 PM

TECMO - Your link isn't working.
What board is it? And I assume it would be compatible with the rest of this build.

Also - if I wasn't a gamer I'd probably get a mac. Every none-gamer I know loves theirs.

May 13, 2009 5:57:00 PM

They are solid PC's, no question about it ^_^. Not so sure about gaming on MAC's...
May 13, 2009 6:01:07 PM

Yea i looked at that board, theres a combo deal with that board and the x2 730, also a combo deal with the 790gx and that cpu. Should look into it.

May 13, 2009 6:45:04 PM

So If I were to go 'all-out' so to speak (8gig and 2 vid cards)

1 - LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model GH22LS30
Item #:N82E16827136153 $24.99
2 - SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 100259-1GL Video Card -$10.00 Instant $399.98 $379.98
2 - OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory -$15.00 Instant $20.00 Mail-in Rebate $179.98 $149.98
1 - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W Power Supply -$60.00 Instant $20.00 Mail-in Rebate $179.99 $119.99
1 - Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive $74.99
1 - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case -$10.00 Instant $84.99 $74.99
1 - ASUS M4A79T Deluxe ATX DDR3 AMD Motherboard
with/ AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor
-$6.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo
$344.99
$318.99


Grand Total: $1,143.91
May 13, 2009 7:00:59 PM

Also - Why get Vista instead of XP 64?
May 13, 2009 7:05:19 PM

Support for 64-bit XP is pretty poor. I would suggest just using the 64-bit Windows 7 RC for now. The performance of Windows 7 is actually very close to that of XP.
May 13, 2009 7:07:37 PM

Ohh.. that is an excellent idea.
Tide me over until 7 comes out for free.
May 13, 2009 8:24:32 PM

Excellant Build... You will be very happy with your new system!! :D 

I don't know if you truly need 8GB of memory but if you are going "all out" than why not. Here is a good article that compares 3GB, 6GB and 12GB and how there is very little difference between the three of them.... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-module-upgra...
May 14, 2009 1:26:39 AM

I figure as much but for ~$70 to go from 4 to 8 - it really seems hard to pass up.
June 9, 2009 2:40:55 PM

I would say go with Windows 7 RC until it stops working (May 2010), and I would stick with 4GB now; you only have 4 slots, you're better buying an 8GB kit in a year or so when it'll be as affordable/needed as now...
The rest of the build is looking good =)
June 9, 2009 2:48:38 PM

Too Late.
I broke down and got the extra 4 GB - figured good to get now and have 4 sticks all exactly the same since it was pretty cheap ($70 more).
And I am running Win 7 - No real problems yet.
Since this is only a gaming rig - if Win 7 costs too much I will just get a version of XP 64 and install it next year.
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