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Nivida GTX 460m/ ATI Radeon 5870 Config Question?

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March 12, 2011 9:59:39 PM

I'm new to PC gaming and graphics cards and had a question about these two graphics cards.
I first purchased an ASUS G73JH with an Radeon 5870 which could run Crysis with all settings set to
high with no lag! :D 

But I returned it (driver problems ect.). Best Buy had the new model with the Nivida GTX 460m (Asus G73SW).
Crysis can still be ran under Very High settings BUT when I run in the game it's super laggy?! :cry: 

So I ask all on this community how do you config your Graphics card settings from the Nivida control panel to get the best
quality graphics but great performance as well. I did look at it myself but I didn't know what to set to high, enable/disable, performance/quality? The ATI Radeon was really simple and gave me what I want but Nivida looks like it gives more options to toy around with (I guess bad for a noob like me.lol). Also if anyone can tell me what GPU, CPU, FPS and what kind of games they relate to? I'm eager to play Shogun 2 and Crysis 2 so I hope my computer can take it? I hope someone can help me out here on the forum! :D 

Also was told it has Sandy Bridge but i don't know what that is so anyone that can explain would be great! Oh! And how about HD gaming. I saw one with a 1080p resolution but also heard it slows down with games? Do you notice a big difference between these two resolutions (I'm used to playing PS3 games). Wish I could've jumped onto PC Gaming Sooner! :) 


Specs:

Intel Core i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz (also has turbo boost which goes up to 2.9 or 2.85)
8GB DDR3 Ram, Nivida GTX 460m (1 GB DDR5 or 1.5 GB DDR5?)
677 GB Free Space 7200rpm Hard Drive
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.
1600X900 Screen Resolution (Max) n


Also is the i7-2630QM better than the 740GM?I might also post this under the "Asus" topic just in case. Also how about connecting to an HDTV. I have an HDMI port on my laptop but then the game has lag (G73JH did but not sure about the SW yet). I'm also sorry if I sound stupid since I don't know very much
about this stuff. Thank you!
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March 12, 2011 10:23:21 PM

Bottom line, you should have kept the 5870, it's FAR more powerful than the 460.....

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6990-review/17



Console gaming is easy, the game designers know EXACTLY what hardware everyone has so things can be tweaked an optimized for it....

In the PC world everybody has all kinds of different hardware, so, game developers can't focus too hard on optimization since they don't know what your running...therefore Video drivers are never perfect, they are always tweaking, changing, and improving them.


It's really tough to get a gaming PC off the shelf HP, Compaq, Dell, ASUS... anything at a Big Box store is going to be middle of the road at best. Most on the board build their own machines. Some have other specialty companies do it for them, iBuyPower, CyberPC....


To solve the situation with your current PC, just start at the lowest possible setting in the game. Then tweak it up slow till performance lags a bit, then back off the settings one step. HINT: leave AA at min this is generally what really slows you down...
March 12, 2011 11:17:42 PM

jb6684 said:
Bottom line, you should have kept the 5870, it's FAR more powerful than the 460.....

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6990-review/17



Console gaming is easy, the game designers know EXACTLY what hardware everyone has so things can be tweaked an optimized for it....

In the PC world everybody has all kinds of different hardware, so, game developers can't focus too hard on optimization since they don't know what your running...therefore Video drivers are never perfect, they are always tweaking, changing, and improving them.


It's really tough to get a gaming PC off the shelf HP, Compaq, Dell, ASUS... anything at a Big Box store is going to be middle of the road at best. Most on the board build their own machines. Some have other specialty companies do it for them, iBuyPower, CyberPC....


To solve the situation with your current PC, just start at the lowest possible setting in the game. Then tweak it up slow till performance lags a bit, then back off the settings one step. HINT: leave AA at min this is generally what really slows you down...


Yeah that makes sense. It's just that this is Asus "new" model and it can't even run Crysis on the very high setting when the older model did! :/  I followed your advice and I think it's just that the Nivida card doesn't have enough power. I do love the minor changes on the computer then the previous model but I feel robbed at how much lag there is. Now I can't find the 5870 anywhere (sold out many places and aren't getting new ones even online). Can't see myself holding onto this after I just paying a little over $1400. Felt for the price it should have ran at least a little better if not the same (I'd actually be happy if I could get the same out of it.).

Anyone recommend other gaming laptops that can run the same as the Asus with the Radeon 5870??
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March 13, 2011 6:29:03 AM

Do oc your gtx460 with msi afterburner, remember oc step by step when increase volt and core, and incrrease vga speed fan.
For stability you must test.
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