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gryphon333   06-05-2009 at 06:02:34 PM

Hi. I know, easy question right? I should obviously get the ATI 4530. However, it's $200 more and I'm not a gamer. The most graphics intensive things I do are streaming Hulu at 480p full screen and playing ripped DVDs with Quicktime. Occasionally, I might breakout Win Movie Maker and do a little editing of vids of my kid.

The card will be in a laptop that I will have connected to my 720p plasma via either a VGA cable or HDMI. I'll be using the laptop as an HTPC until I work up the cash to build/buy a dedicated living room unit. However, I'm really only interested in surfing the internet (streaming Hulu, Metacafe, YouTube, etc.), watching ripped DVDs, using my webcam, and playing ripped CDs/MP3s. I'm not going to be capturing or converting any TV or using it as an DVR/PVR.

Can someone out there give me a straight answer at to whether the Intel 4500MHD (even thought I know it's not a great card) will do the job for me?

Thanks in advance.

~Adam

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Dekasav   06-05-2009 at 06:53:29 PM

Hulu and YouTube run only using the CPU, so that's a non-issue. And I think the Intel 4500 can run DVDs and such, so you should be fine with the cheaper option.

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gryphon333   06-05-2009 at 06:59:21 PM

Really?!? I currently have an Compaq Evo n800c P4 2.4G and the video is choppy when I put Hulu into full screen mode. Why would that be if they only use the CPU?

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edeawillrule   06-05-2009 at 07:01:54 PM

The reason why is P4s are ***.

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megamanx00   06-05-2009 at 07:21:33 PM

The 4530 will be better if you use Blu Ray or are watching HD video with any GPU accelerated codecs. Otherwise, since you're not gaming, stick with the crappy onboard Intel video :D.

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gryphon333   06-05-2009 at 07:29:53 PM

Yeah, when I get the permanent unit in the living room I'll start worrying about Blu-Ray and HD vids on the HTPC. But I've lived without them this long that another year or so won't kill me.


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daedalus685   06-05-2009 at 07:37:46 PM

edeawillrule wrote :

The reason why is P4s are ***.



One day all the P4's will be gone and the posts about them will stop :D

But hey, at least I haven't seen any first gen cerlerons around here lately..

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edeawillrule   06-05-2009 at 08:39:32 PM

daedalus685 wrote :

One day all the P4's will be gone and the posts about them will stop :D

But hey, at least I haven't seen any first gen celerons around here lately..



I can't wait til that day gets here lol. I hate P4s with a passion.

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frozenlead   06-05-2009 at 09:56:04 PM

Just to be sure...you can't put a 4530 into a notebook. I hope you meant build a PC with one in it or use a notebook.

As for the P4 discussion - I just refurbished an HP notebook with a P4. Owner complained that it got too hot, and started smoking. Turns out the heatsinks were clogged with dust and the heatpipes ran right next to the power jack on the motherboard - melted the sucker down. Replaced the jack and such, but the machine still smells a bit burnt. P4 loads at 53C. Not bad for two fans in a notebook and some good TIM.

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gryphon333   06-05-2009 at 10:06:31 PM

frozenlead wrote :

Just to be sure...you can't put a 4530 into a notebook.



Tell that to HP. They offer it as an option for the Pavilion dv6t series:

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/ [...] v6t_series

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frozenlead   06-05-2009 at 10:15:01 PM

gryphon333 wrote :

Tell that to HP. They offer it as an option for the Pavilion dv6t series:



Well, yes, but you're not just adding a card in. You'll be replacing the motherboard.

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rewindlabs   06-06-2009 at 08:37:44 AM

edeawillrule wrote :

I can't wait til that day gets here lol. I hate P4s with a passion.


Added a psu and graphics card to a P4 system i had lying around....runs L4D just fine....which is why i set it up....if everyone just weren't morons and expected a perfect gaming time with the p4 then we would be ok....but people look at the P4s clock rate and think its a powerful setup :pfff:

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edeawillrule   06-06-2009 at 09:54:49 AM

rewindlabs wrote :

Added a psu and graphics card to a P4 system i had lying around....runs L4D just fine....which is why i set it up....if everyone just weren't morons and expected a perfect gaming time with the p4 then we would be ok....but people look at the P4s clock rate and think its a powerful setup :pfff:



Like I said P4s are ***.
They consume more power than an entire modern pc.
They deliver less than half the performance clock for clock when compared to a C2D (Conroe) not counting multi-threaded applications where the performance difference would be even larger.
They produce enough heat to keep the whole friggin planet warm.
And they are pretty much useless.

Gotta just love the remnants of Intel's megahertz myth marketing campaign that is still believed by so many *sigh*

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rewindlabs   06-06-2009 at 10:19:42 AM

Yeahp thats all right...but if you have one lying around and know what to expect/can make use of it there is not reason not to use it

And it keeps me warm during the winter...

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cjl   06-06-2009 at 10:52:14 AM

edeawillrule wrote :


They consume more power than an entire modern pc.


Tell that to my 4870x2 quadfire rig with an overclocked i7 ;)


(Yes, I know that's not a fair comparison)

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rickzor   06-06-2009 at 07:11:40 PM

daedalus685 wrote :

One day all the P4's will be gone and the posts about them will stop :D

But hey, at least I haven't seen any first gen cerlerons around here lately..




I own a pentium III 1.32ghz on a slot1 board and a sata hdd and i love it :D

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witcherx   06-06-2009 at 08:08:55 PM

4530.. blue ray and future...

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edeawillrule   06-06-2009 at 08:15:27 PM

rickzor wrote :

I own a pentium III 1.32ghz on a slot1 board and a sata hdd and i love it :D



Pentium IIIs have a special place in my heart (the first pc I ever used had one :D ) so they're fine lol.

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