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First Timer, i7 build, do I need extra fans?

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May 16, 2009 1:56:46 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: End of May 2009
BUDGET RANGE: US$800-1000
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Video Editing, surfing the internet
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, and OS
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, amazon.com
PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: In the future (XMas? When I get a raise?)
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200


Hi guys!

This is my first attempt at building my own desktop! I want to build one that gets the most bang for the buck and will last for 5-6 years.
I'm also leaving room open for future expansion.
From what I understand, there are two fans on the tower I am looking at (Antec 300). Is that enough to keep my system from frying?
Also, I'm curious if there is anything else I should replace on the list with something else.
Thanks in advance for your help!

Now for the parts...


PSU - Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail ($99.99)

MB - ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard ($249.99)

CPU - Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4x256MB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA1366 130W Quad Core Processor ($279.99)

Video - SAPPHIRE 100277L Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card ($99.99)

RAM - OCZ 6GB (3x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail ($85.99)

HD - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive ($69.99)

DVD - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM ($26.99)

Tower - Antec 300 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($58.95)

Grand total: $971.88

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May 16, 2009 2:30:46 AM

It all depends on your preferences. In the 800-1000 dollar range we would usually recommend an AMD build these days.

Your system, as-is, is a bit heavy on processing compared to the GPU, at least for gaming. Going with a less expensive quad core would free up a bit more for the GPU.

As a matter of future expansion, this PSU would be a bit of an upgrade over your choice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


You don't need to add fans up front for the Antec 300. It's a good upgrade however to do so.
I like to recommend these:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6176/fan-346/Yate_Loo...
But if you don't want the lights:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Good balance of air flow and silence.
May 16, 2009 3:29:52 AM

monsterrain said:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: End of May 2009
BUDGET RANGE: US$800-1000
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Video Editing, surfing the internet
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, and OS
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, amazon.com
PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: In the future (XMas? When I get a raise?)
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200


Hi guys!

This is my first attempt at building my own desktop! I want to build one that gets the most bang for the buck and will last for 5-6 years.
I'm also leaving room open for future expansion.
From what I understand, there are two fans on the tower I am looking at (Antec 300). Is that enough to keep my system from frying?
Also, I'm curious if there is anything else I should replace on the list with something else.
Thanks in advance for your help!

Now for the parts...


PSU - Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail ($99.99)

MB - ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard ($249.99)

CPU - Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4x256MB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA1366 130W Quad Core Processor ($279.99)

Video - SAPPHIRE 100277L Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card ($99.99)

RAM - OCZ 6GB (3x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail ($85.99)

HD - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive ($69.99)

DVD - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM ($26.99)

Tower - Antec 300 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($58.95)

Grand total: $971.88


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-nvidia-sli-mo... <--- Gigabyte: Enable SLI On X58 Boards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $58.95 Free Shipping*
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 ($49.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-EX58U3R $179.99 | $164.99 after rebate
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R Core i7/ Intel X58/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=I7-920 $265.99 Free Ground Shipping
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920 2.66GHz 8MB LGA1366 CPU, OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $36.99 Free Shipping*
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $184.99 ($159.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
EVGA 896-P3-1255-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 Free Shipping*
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99 Free Shipping*
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - OEM

Total: $1,081.86 | $936.86 w/mail in rebates
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May 16, 2009 5:14:37 AM

Fans:

A good gaming system should have fans like this:

1) PSU (temperature controlled)
2) graphics (blow air out back)
3) Heat Sink + 120mm fan for CPU (controlled by motherboard, setup in BIOS)
4) 2x 120mm (low flow just to move out the hot air)
May 16, 2009 2:38:42 PM

Why_Me said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-nvidia-sli-mo... <--- Gigabyte: Enable SLI On X58 Boards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $58.95 Free Shipping*
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 ($49.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-EX58U3R $179.99 | $164.99 after rebate
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R Core i7/ Intel X58/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=I7-920 $265.99 Free Ground Shipping
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920 2.66GHz 8MB LGA1366 CPU, OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $36.99 Free Shipping*
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $184.99 ($159.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
EVGA 896-P3-1255-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 Free Shipping*
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99 Free Shipping*
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - OEM

Total: $1,081.86 | $936.86 w/mail in rebates



Did you use this PSU to keep the cost down, or would it be better than the PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail that Proximon mentioned?
May 16, 2009 3:54:10 PM

To keep the price down. The 750w is def. a better option seeing how it gives you the ability to SLI later on. On another note, that 550w will push two 4770's in SLI.
May 21, 2009 11:30:47 AM

If you are building a Gaming Rig. Go for AMD and AMD based CF motherboard- and add 4770 in CF... and you will save some $.... use the savings to plant some trees... :) 
May 21, 2009 4:19:15 PM

witcherx said:
If you are building a Gaming Rig. Go for AMD and AMD based CF motherboard- and add 4770 in CF... and you will save some $.... use the savings to plant some trees... :) 

The Gigabyte board does support CF as I remember. But I'd rather have the GTX 260 in the first place. Performs much better (2x) for 50$ more.
May 21, 2009 8:50:07 PM

Almost everyone else on this board is pushing this OCZ 550 except me.

There are ZERO proper reviews done on this unit. It has never been properly tested. There are some assumptions that have been made because a larger PSU with the same name has been reviewed.

Most of the people commenting in this thread are experts:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5295

The 700W review:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/704

Note that apparently the 550W is made by Sirtec, while the 700W is made by Impervio. Different OEMs mean very different PSUs. I'm not ready to hand OCZ a free pass at this point.
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