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I have an apevia iceberg 680 Watts.
My pc does not have any extra lights and fittings..2 hard drives...3 cd drives...quad core...and 3 fans...

Can I run a single 295 gtx..

can i run a single 285 gtx..

thank you

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You can run 1 GTX285
You can not run 1 GTX295. (which is basically 2xGTX260s)

------------------------------ i7 920, E5300
GTX260, HD4870, HD4830
Reply to BlueScreenDeath

BlueScreenDeath wrote :

You can run 1 GTX285
You can not run 1 GTX295. (which is basically 2xGTX260s)



I agree

Reply to Mrbumbum

2x285 gtx or 1x295 gtx

which is better?

Reply to bluejamesbond

bluejamesbond wrote :

2x285 gtx or 1x295 gtx

which is better?



I think 2 285's are better then 1 295 (not including Asus Mars possibly)

Reply to Mrbumbum

why can't i run this 295 gtx

Reply to bluejamesbond

PSU, i would recommend swapping it out for a similar power corsair, seasonic, or pc power & cooling, apevia is a really bad brand (aka, that 680 may only give u 450)

Reply to mindless728

does the amps of the 12V have to do anything with this

Reply to bluejamesbond

that is the main voltage used now in computers

Reply to mindless728

what does it mean when atleast 46 amps is required to run the gtx 295

Reply to bluejamesbond

that 46 amps or amperes are needed on the 12v rail in order for the GPU to be powered in a system, usually the amps are for the whole computer and are usually exaggerated, even so that PSU can't handle it and that PSU is poor quality, get rid of it, if it goes, your whole computer could go

Reply to mindless728

You need a good 750watt PSU to run a GTX295 + all your other components.

You have neither 750watt PSU (and thus probably not enough amps on 12v rails) and you do not have a good brand name PSU.

------------------------------ i7 920, E5300
GTX260, HD4870, HD4830
Reply to BlueScreenDeath

just get a good 750w
Corsair 750TX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006

not much more for having only one power cord, and a good PSU that doesnt that down the rest of your system


Message edited by mindless728 on 06-08-2009 at 04:25:27 AM
Reply to mindless728

so
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817206001

or this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817104019

will not work
?
just wondering

Reply to bluejamesbond

they would probably work, but the new PSU isnt much more than those units that are just for the GPU's, and like i keep saying the current PSU is really bad, you need a new one anyways

Reply to mindless728

you can close this post...solved..

thank you mindless728 and BlueScreenDeath for all your help

I think i am going to stick with the 285 gtx and in a few months swtich out the psu

OR

I am going to get the 295 gtx with the gpsu and then switch out my other psu in a few months

thank you again

Reply to bluejamesbond

im still saying it would only be like 30 or 40 more for the new PSU and GPU, though it should work fine

Reply to mindless728

The GTX285 should be more than enough...it's a great GPU. GTX295 is overkill unless you have a huge monitor.

------------------------------ i7 920, E5300
GTX260, HD4870, HD4830
Reply to BlueScreenDeath
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What are the rest of your specs? You'd need a nice system to get full use of that GTX295.

Reply to AKM880

mindless728 wrote :

they would probably work, but the new PSU isnt much more than those units that are just for the GPU's, and like i keep saying the current PSU is really bad, you need a new one anyways


If the OP's current PSU is one of these http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=78, it's not even worthy of being used as a doorstop.

Reply to mousemonkey

i have to samsung t260hd monitor running at 1920 by 1200
and i sadly have a 7300 GS right now

Reply to bluejamesbond

mousemonkey wrote :

If the OP's current PSU is one of these http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=78, it's not even worthy of being used as a doorstop.



i don't understand what you mean

Reply to bluejamesbond
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I guess its a bad PSU.......

Reply to AKM880

He means that your overpriced 680Watt power supply, produces no where near that much, it can handle at best 550Watts on its 12 volt rails but likely something closer to about 480 which a good 500 Watt PSU can handle easily for less money too. Basically buy smart not just because its shiny.

Reply to hunter315

i have a q6600 at 3.0 ghz
t260hd monitor 1920 *1200
2 seagate hard drive 640 GB total
i external 500 GB
GA-P35-S3G
6 GB 1066 5-5-5-15
apevia iceberg
1xcd
1xdvd
1xdvd/cd
Sagitta 2 case
air cooled 25C -- cpu

those are my specs

Reply to bluejamesbond

bluejamesbond wrote :

i don't understand what you mean


Did you read the review?

Reply to mousemonkey

yeah the apevia was a big mistake...it looked very appealling since my case has a side window

Reply to bluejamesbond

will i be able to run a 285 gtx on the apevia iceberg 680 watts????????????????????

Reply to bluejamesbond

Get a Corsair HX620, it will look even sexier.

Reply to mousemonkey

indeed......
i will switch out my psu in a 3 months but i have to stick with the current psu now
so
will i be able to run a 285 gtx on the apevia iceberg 680 watts????????????????????

please tell me i can :)

Reply to bluejamesbond

bluejamesbond wrote :

indeed......
i will switch out my psu in a 3 months but i have to stick with the current psu now
so
will i be able to run a 285 gtx on the apevia iceberg 680 watts????????????????????

please tell me i can :)


I wouldn't chance it, unless you like indoor fireworks in which case go for it.

Reply to mousemonkey
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bluejamesbond wrote :

i have a q6600 at 3.0 ghz
t260hd monitor 1920 *1200
2 seagate hard drive 640 GB total
i external 500 GB
GA-P35-S3G
6 GB 1066 5-5-5-15
apevia iceberg
1xcd
1xdvd
1xdvd/cd
Sagitta 2 case
air cooled 25C -- cpu

those are my specs



The Apevia is crap. I'd give it a good boot into the nearest rubbish bin before it costs you money. At your res., a 285 would be overkill. A 275 would be appropriate for most games. Ever thought about using an ATI solution? You can get very similar performance, and spend a lot less dosh.

But then again, it's your money to throw away as you see fit.

Reply to croc
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mousemonkey wrote :

Get a Corsair HX620, it will look even sexier.



:lol: I have to agree.

Reply to AKM880

BlueScreenDeath wrote :

You can run 1 GTX285
You can not run 1 GTX295. (which is basically 2xGTX260s)


^ That is shockingly wrong.
For example A Corsair 620W can power a system with GTX295 OC , 3 HDD, q6600@3.7GHz v1.55 with no problem.

Reply to michaelmk86
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^ For an apevia??? Care to re-think your 'shocklingly wrong' statement?

Reply to croc

croc wrote :

^ For an apevia??? Care to re-think your 'shocklingly wrong' statement?


Yes for an apevia, because nvidia recommend minimum 680W with +12 Volt current rating of 46 Amps and apevia iceberg 680W have 46A. So it will be fine to power a GTX295.

croc wrote :

At your res., a 285 would be overkill.


Also do you care to re-think your shockingly wrong statement?

Reply to michaelmk86

michaelmk86 wrote :

Yes for an apevia, because nvidia recommend minimum 680W with +12 Volt current rating of 46 Amps and apevia iceberg 680W have 46A. So it will be fine to power a GTX295.


Also do you care to re-think your shockingly wrong statement?


That POS can just about manage 34amps.

Reply to mousemonkey

mousemonkey wrote :

That POS can just about manage 34amps.



so you are saying i can run a 295 gtx on current psu

how about on a Visitiontek dedicated power 450 watts.....??

Reply to bluejamesbond

bluejamesbond wrote :

so you are saying i can run a 295 gtx on current psu

how about on a Visitiontek dedicated power 450 watts.....??


When and how did I say that?

Reply to mousemonkey

mousemonkey wrote :

That POS can just about manage 34amps.


The Apevia iceberg 680W have:
+12V1 22A
+12V2 24A

46Amps in total


http://www.apevia.com/ProductsInfo [...] -IB680W-BL

Reply to michaelmk86

michaelmk86 wrote :

The Apevia iceberg 680W have:
+12V1 22A
+12V2 24A

46Amps in total


http://www.apevia.com/ProductsInfo [...] -IB680W-BL


Don't believe the hype.

Quote :

For the record, I did attempt to put loads greater than 16A and 18A on the 12V rails and anything I put on them that added up to more than 34A, which is over spec according to the combined 12V rail rating, the PSU shut down. Even when the 3.3V and 5V were lowered almost all of the way down. Needless to say, the "maximum" amperage capabilities of each 12V rails are grossly unrealistic.



http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=78

Reply to mousemonkey

Each rail can output that much, however the primary power source for the rails rarely is capable of outputting the max current listed for both rails at the same time. For most of them it seems that the two rails combined can only handle about 80% of what their sum would indicate.

Reply to hunter315
- 1 +

michaelmk86 wrote :

Yes for an apevia, because nvidia recommend minimum 680W with +12 Volt current rating of 46 Amps and apevia iceberg 680W have 46A. So it will be fine to power a GTX295.


Also do you care to re-think your shockingly wrong statement?



Yes, I do... Not only will the apevia not power a 295, but you seem to have a cranial-rectal dysfunction.

Reply to croc

croc wrote :

Yes, I do... Not only will the apevia not power a 295, but you seem to have a cranial-rectal dysfunction.


+10 [:mousemonkey:5]

Reply to mousemonkey

OP if you are keeping the psu for 3 months i would recommend you don't use your computer for that long (those apevia PSU's are that bad)

Reply to mindless728
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michaelmk86 wrote :

The Apevia iceberg 680W have:
+12V1 22A
+12V2 24A

46Amps in total


http://www.apevia.com/ProductsInfo [...] -IB680W-BL



Problem 1) You cant just add up the rails to find out how many amps you have.

Problem 2) Apevia PSUs are low quality POSes that greatly exaggerate their capabilities.

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Reply to B-Unit

mindless728 wrote :

OP if you are keeping the psu for 3 months i would recommend you don't use your computer for that long (those apevia PSU's are that bad)



OK..I totaly agree

BUT!!

1. Right now i am probably pulling around 250 or 300 watts at max nothing special. I think the psu can handle at least up to 400 watts stable.

2. What if i get a dedicated power supply for the 285/295 gtx. I mean around 450 watts or 300 watts dedicated gpsu. With this, the current psu won't be affected. I really don't want the main psu to get any load, no matter if it is an apevia or a corsair or a kingston. What i am trying to basically ask is, what if i get a dedicated power supply???? (It is about 59.99 or 79.99)

Seriously, I am not trying to be stubborn.

Nobody is talking about the dedicated power supply...does that have any problems...

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THE CHEAPER FSP ONE 300WATTS
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THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HELP

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