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August 22, 2009 1:02:55 PM

Iam Getting Horrible Artifacts Right From The Bootup Skreen, This Is what they Look Like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeEzrfkBy-A

These Artifakts Are Okkuring On My Both brand New Built PC's Its not The Komponents Bekause I Have Changed Every Single One. I Have Built Many PC's Before But This Is A First That This Is Happening. Only Two Things Remain Eighther The Ampage Fuse in Socket Plug Iam Using To Plug in The Power Supply (PSU) Or The Pegs That GO Between Chasis And Mother Board.

My dear Friends Kan U Not Give Just A Formal Answer, It Means nothing, Do Read What I Asked And Also See That Video And Description, Its Only 40 Secs Long So U Will Understand More Klear. There Is Something A Miss Here. Does Anyone Think that Maybe The Metal Pegs That Are Between The Chasis And Motherboard should Have Those Red Kardboard Rings Between Them And The Motherboard? See This Picture (Jpeg) For Details...

This Is The Pegs....

http://www.cybergooch.com/tutorials/images/buildsystem/...

This Is The Red Kardboard Rings....

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/0/6/4/3/6/webimg/53092...

Please Read Karefully Before Giving A Pethetik Rhetorikal Answer That Means Naught. Thank U And Please Dont be Offended. Perhaps You Are All Giving Empty Answers Bekause It Klokks Up Your Skores In Profile. But Kommonnnnnnnnnn, Folks Have A Problem Here.
Anonymous
August 22, 2009 3:17:48 PM

I will give you an answer on this thread!

Get a better attitude and then maybe, just maybe you will get the help you need!!!!
August 22, 2009 6:43:09 PM

are you 11 years old with your fancy 1337 spelling and triple posting.
Show some respect to receive it.
Make a good post to get a quality answer.
Bitching, moaning, and denigrating your audience who you hope to receive an answer from is counter productive


also linking to some religious propaganda site in your profile made me delete my helpful answer...

have a nice day.
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August 22, 2009 6:54:45 PM

Apparently he has a keyboard problem too. It's missing the letter "c".
August 22, 2009 7:16:15 PM

I realy dont care for ur attitude, i know that u have had this problem for some time, but still, there is no need for it.

anyhows

have u checked the monitor it is plugged into, it could be the monitor is on its way out or the cable is a problem, either way if all components have been tested or replaced then it just leaves the monitor.

also check to see if the system is neer anything that could interfere with the immage (power cables, power switches and equipment), make sure that there is no interference by putting the system in a closed room without any other equipment around.

good luck
a b ) Power supply
a b V Motherboard
August 22, 2009 7:17:48 PM

Remote diagnosis requires a two-way spirit of understanding, communication, and cooperation . . . none of which you seem able to proivde.
a b V Motherboard
August 22, 2009 7:52:49 PM

Learn to spell and cut the attitude.

By the way, the TH staff writes the articles not the forum. The forum is for the public to help each other, which we do because we like to help people who want to learn.
August 22, 2009 9:21:05 PM

orangegator said:
Apparently he has a keyboard problem too. It's missing the letter "c".


also t u and n in another order and look at him self in the mirror...


Hes really going to get help with that attitude.

Personally I would plug it in to a normal pc monitor and see if there is a problem there first..

One thing i cant stand is someone who doesnt speak English properly.

What is Artifakts Are Okkuring etc.
August 22, 2009 9:46:14 PM

My guess is, he's german which would explain the 'k' thing. look, you've been saying not to write things like these and because you did say a lot about it, people are writing such things. I hope you will know now how forum works.
Anyway
I bought an old x850xt pe card which was said to be unchecked. Understandably it wasnt working well. I had the same result as you have. better buy a brand new rig and put in that place and check or even borrow from a friend one and see.
a b V Motherboard
August 22, 2009 9:48:37 PM

does the monitor do this on another working computer
what is your PSU, is that one of the items you switched out (brand, wattage, amps on 12v rail)
did you swap with a known working gpu

and use better spelling please, it just screams 10 year old

P.S. we are not staff members, just moderately nice people
August 22, 2009 10:14:11 PM

As I said to you in your YouTube video it can be a lot of things, it's impossible to give an answer here. You have to reduce parameters. Probably when you swapped components you still retained what was causing the problem since you cannot exchange all components togheter.

The only way to find the solution is having another PC and swapping the components one on one. If you can find another PC with the same socket and RAM architecture (DDR2 or DDR3) it's the best, but you can do it also with older/newer technologies if they are not to old apart (for example if the old PC has AGP and DDR since two many components are different and you cannot restrict too much variables).

Exchange first the MoBo of the other functioning computer with your own (if the socket and/or RAM is different retain CPU and/or RAM). If it gives artifacts you know have restricted the problem to only three components or in the case of same socket and/or RAM only one or two and to find the trouble will be easy from here. If not continue with all the other components. Finally you will find the trouble.

I replied only because I can understand your frustration. I was tempted to do otherwise but anyway let's hope to have not given pearls to a swine.
August 22, 2009 10:23:26 PM

Alternatively rechange all components one by one (the same thing you should have done before) starting from the most external to the most internal.

First monitor, after case, after PSU, after HDDS (not likely you can past them), after MoBo (same socket), after CPU, after RAM, after GPU and so on. There's no way you will not find the problem.

Surely if will cost you much trouble and/or money. Having another functioning PC makes it all much easier to do, also because if there's some sort of interference you see it immediately with another computer.

a b ) Power supply
a b V Motherboard
August 22, 2009 10:33:09 PM

Twoboxer said:
Remote diagnosis requires a two-way spirit of understanding, communication, and cooperation . . . none of which you seem able to proivde.

Well said! Post of the MONTH!

a b V Motherboard
August 22, 2009 10:39:00 PM

MrPioneer said:
Iam Getting Horrible Artifacts Right From The Bootup Skreen, This Is what they Look Like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeEzrfkBy-A

These Artifakts Are Okkuring On My Both brand New Built PC's Its not The Komponents Bekause I Have Changed Every Single One. I Have Built Many PC's Before But This Is A First That This Is Happening. Only Two Things Remain Eighther The Ampage Fuse in Socket Plug Iam Using To Plug in The Power Supply (PSU) Or The Pegs That GO Between Chasis And Mother Board.

My dear Friends Kan U Not Give Just A Formal Answer, It Means nothing, Do Read What I Asked And Also See That Video And Description, Its Only 40 Secs Long So U Will Understand More Klear. There Is Something A Miss Here. Does Anyone Think that Maybe The Metal Pegs That Are Between The Chasis And Motherboard should Have Those Red Kardboard Rings Between Them And The Motherboard? See This Picture (Jpeg) For Details...

This Is The Pegs....

http://www.cybergooch.com/tutorials/images/buildsystem/...

This Is The Red Kardboard Rings....

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/0/6/4/3/6/webimg/53092...

Please Read Karefully Before Giving A Pethetik Rhetorikal Answer That Means Naught. Thank U And Please Dont be Offended. Perhaps You Are All Giving Empty Answers Bekause It Klokks Up Your Skores In Profile. But Kommonnnnnnnnnn, Folks Have A Problem Here.


I have three answers, one is the most common cause, the other two are relatively uncommon. But since you don't want the answer, I don't have to give it to you.

-TH Staff
August 22, 2009 10:46:12 PM

Indeed twoboxer, nicely put.
August 23, 2009 7:25:26 AM

I'm sure we can cut this guy some slack.
August 23, 2009 7:36:24 AM

Your personal quote (the youtube link) is annoying me. It's blocking the text.

I'll have to second Crashman. We don't want to be giving bad answers so I guess staff can't say anything.
August 23, 2009 7:38:00 AM

Maybe its your HDD, if it gets too loaded, it gets heavier and heavier, and is probably squashing your poor lil gpu.
Delete the HDD, or use a shrink program, so your HDD gets lighter

Just Cidding of kourse
August 23, 2009 7:44:11 AM

Might I add that if I see another link to your youtube channel posted around here you can carve your name in the wall of unwanted advertisers on the way out.
August 23, 2009 8:00:29 AM

Crashman said:
I have three answers, one is the most common cause, the other two are relatively uncommon. But since you don't want the answer, I don't have to give it to you.

-TH Staff


However this is nonsense. Or you reply or you don't. If you have a cause and you know it you should help him no matter his attitude. He can be a child and think he can have anything acting as a Nietzsche's superhuman, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a problem you can solve and you should do your best at doing it. He can be an ass**** but with the pretentious of showing yourself you are being more intelligent (an obvious thing btw) you are passing yourself as an ass**** too.

A doctor cure the symptoms not the human being, or do you pherhaps think that all idiots shouldn't be cure? I think myself that maybe idiots should all die, but that's all another matter altogheter.
August 23, 2009 8:04:37 AM

I'd like to refer your technical request on to the users in the appropriate section which is forum-11.

The users in this section specialise in these sorts of highly technical and very frustrating problems - both hardware and behavioural.

Thank you for your query MrPoineer ... we will attend to you when you arrive.

Please wear something comfortable (loose) and some high heel red pumps and matching lipstick if you have them.

I'll grease up the US flagpole I have handy, and starve the resident rottweiler (wingding) in the meantime.

*wanders off to charge batteries for videocam*
August 23, 2009 8:08:03 AM

Let me go get the kazoo marching band for his/her arrival
August 23, 2009 8:35:11 AM

hellboy ... quick ... get your other attachment and join the party ... heh heh.

August 23, 2009 8:42:23 AM

Death to the idiots, death to the idiots, sad thing is, they dont even know who they are
Wonder if the kazoo band can do a funeral dirge
August 23, 2009 8:50:25 AM

checked ... it can.

I was thinking the last post ... or possibly something Monty Python ... "Always look ... ".
a b V Motherboard
August 23, 2009 1:53:33 PM

MrPioneer said:
Iam Getting Horrible Artifacts Right From The Bootup Skreen, This Is what they Look Like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeEzrfkBy-A

These Artifakts Are Okkuring On My Both brand New Built PC's Its not The Komponents Bekause I Have Changed Every Single One. I Have Built Many PC's Before But This Is A First That This Is Happening. Only Two Things Remain Eighther The Ampage Fuse in Socket Plug Iam Using To Plug in The Power Supply (PSU) Or The Pegs That GO Between Chasis And Mother Board.

My dear Friends Kan U Not Give Just A Formal Answer, It Means nothing, Do Read What I Asked And Also See That Video And Description, Its Only 40 Secs Long So U Will Understand More Klear. There Is Something A Miss Here. Does Anyone Think that Maybe The Metal Pegs That Are Between The Chasis And Motherboard should Have Those Red Kardboard Rings Between Them And The Motherboard? See This Picture (Jpeg) For Details...

This Is The Pegs....


Please Read Karefully Before Giving A Pethetik Rhetorikal Answer That Means Naught. Thank U And Please Dont be Offended. Perhaps You Are All Giving Empty Answers Bekause It Klokks Up Your Skores In Profile. But Kommonnnnnnnnnn, Folks Have A Problem Here.




Well, I don't think it's the ampage fuse in the socket plug or the red cardboard rings. Have you tried breadboarding, just CPU w/HSF, one stick RAM?
August 23, 2009 7:37:53 PM

Reynod said:
hellboy ... quick ... get your other attachment and join the party ... heh heh.




Am I missing the point here but there is far too many smiling pussies on screen.


Poor ole Randomizer, hes been Xeroxed on his logo
a b ) Power supply
a b V Motherboard
August 23, 2009 11:16:20 PM

selea said:
. . . If you have a cause and you know it you should help him no matter his attitude. He can be a child and think he can have anything acting as a Nietzsche's superhuman, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a problem you can solve and you should do your best at doing it. . . .

A doctor cure the symptoms not the human being, or do you pherhaps think that all idiots shouldn't be cure?


With all due respect, you are dead wrong. All human interaction is transactional. He chose to open this transaction with an insulting display of attitude.

Let me say this as simply as I can . . . we here owe him NOTHING that he himself is unwilling to give.

A doctor is the patient's employee who took an oath. We are none of that. We answer questions and solve problems in the spirit of community and fellowship, on a best-efforts basis.

One's fee for that service is respect and a responsibility to maintain that sense of community and fellowship.

What he is getting is an ugly reflection of his own attitude. And maybe a best-efforts attempt to expose his real problem.
a b ) Power supply
a b V Motherboard
August 23, 2009 11:26:20 PM

^ Wow man, couldn't have said it any better :D 
August 24, 2009 3:25:00 AM

Hellboy said:
Am I missing the point here but there is far too many smiling pussies on screen.


Poor ole Randomizer, hes been Xeroxed on his logo

Too true, too true. I think I'll have to revoke permissions on its use. That or prevent offending users from displaying it :bounce: 
August 24, 2009 5:25:08 AM

The funny thing is that usually on these "help your broken PC" threads, the helpers ask questions and suggest things about the rig, and the OP answers them and tries the suggestions out. But (his attitude aside) he seems to wan't us to do all the work and figure it out on our own without him, he hasn't even posted one post since the start post, even if we wanted to help, it is kinda hard, without any feedback.
August 24, 2009 7:06:25 AM

randomizer said:
Too true, too true. I think I'll have to revoke permissions on its use. That or prevent offending users from displaying it :bounce: 



Good thing is Randomizer, is that your the origional and the rest fade by comparison ( and no thats not a suck up or arse licking comment ).


On a serious note..


There is some things that if you ask in the right way, many people on here would help hand over fist.

Unfortuately there are some who feel that computer engineers are there for free because we answer questions to peoples problems in minutes.

I had a mate whos a plasterer, he rang me on a daily basis asking technical questions, to which he got educated by taking up my valuable time as I am self employed.

Anyhow when it came for me to have my lounge plastered he charged me for it.. Now im not expecting him to do it for nothing but i did expect a large reduction. But this guy expected me to give him free advice for over 3 years and he never reduced his bill so I told him where to go..

And he was supposed to be a mate.



To Mr Pioneer.

Change your name to Mr Saisho as your attitude is cheap like the brand
Go and pay some one to fix your attitude.
Go and pay some one to fix your problem.
When you speak English and I dont care what country you come from do not act flash by spelling words like konnekter even though your spell checker tells you 1000 times you spelt it wrong.

I just hope that the attitude of your computer guy that you employ is the same as yours and welcome the outcome.

August 24, 2009 9:45:08 AM

randomizer said:
Too true, too true. I think I'll have to revoke permissions on its use. That or prevent offending users from displaying it :bounce: 


But it wasn't your photo... riiight?

...

I'll stop saying stuff now... don't wanna get banned ya know ;) 
August 24, 2009 9:46:53 AM

I have a patent on it. It doesn't need to be mine. Yes shadow, I can have patents on pictures.
August 24, 2009 9:56:18 AM

I like having copyight and making my own stuff, saves all the copyright pains.
August 24, 2009 11:00:14 AM

Twoboxer said:
With all due respect, you are dead wrong. All human interaction is transactional. He chose to open this transaction with an insulting display of attitude.

Let me say this as simply as I can . . . we here owe him NOTHING that he himself is unwilling to give.

A doctor is the patient's employee who took an oath. We are none of that. We answer questions and solve problems in the spirit of community and fellowship, on a best-efforts basis.

One's fee for that service is respect and a responsibility to maintain that sense of community and fellowship.

What he is getting is an ugly reflection of his own attitude. And maybe a best-efforts attempt to expose his real problem.


I agree on what you say but I was not talkin about this but about the behaviour of the poster. The TC asked a question in bad manners. The TH staff member replied "I know what your problem is but I won't tell you". This is idiocy. The need to acknowledge others of yours wiseness is the attidute of the weak. If you don't want to answer just don't do it. There's no intelligent motive to simply answer not answering acting as one that knows the problem if not for a supposed instinct on being acknowledged. Either if he wanted to teach him a lesson acting this way makes him an ass**** for intelligent beings around, or at last for me. Speaking for myself if I lose time with someone I do it without caring about anything else, and if I chose to don't lose time I don't do it, simple as that.

If you think he is an idiot then don't reply, but if you do it then do it with style. The pantomime between words doesn't mean anything at all and doesn't serve nobody at all, neither the poster.

This is what I was talking about and not the fact that he had to reply to the TC.
August 24, 2009 11:46:41 AM

Look, I tried to wave off his "owe mw" attitude, I really did, and almost asked him for more info, of which, weve received nothing.
So, in the end, I relented, and posted this instead
August 24, 2009 1:12:36 PM

amdfangirl said:
I like having copyight and making my own stuff, saves all the copyright pains.



But isnt that the flag of the United Kingdom........at the start - the country the Aussies love to dislike...


What on earth was our prime minister thinking when he released the TWA Lockerbee bomber... Good gried the most unwanted prime minister since time began.

Edit. We didnt want him, we got him weather we liked it or not.
August 24, 2009 1:25:27 PM

Yes I'm conerned about the flag as well. Technically the Aussie flag has the Union Jack as well, but I think it would be better to show the Southern Cross instead since that symbolises Australia more. New Zealand uses a neutered Southern Cross with a missing star... and it's red.
August 24, 2009 1:39:43 PM

/me proposes a pic of a sheep.....and runs
August 24, 2009 1:50:05 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
Look, I tried to wave off his "owe mw" attitude, I really did, and almost asked him for more info, of which, weve received nothing.
So, in the end, I relented, and posted this instead
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/jaydeejohn/fdamnmfbba61f.gif


In this you are right. The TC is clearly an idiot. I tried to help him but he won't give feedback. This way it's impossible to help him. Also if in the end I already knew that I would lose time replying to him I did it willingly hoping that I maybe would have proved wrong. I took the responsibility of replying and I lost nothing nor get nothing in return. Usually is this way when you take risks but sometimes people surprises you and that moments are enough for all the other already known failures.
August 24, 2009 2:03:54 PM

randomizer said:
Yes I'm conerned about the flag as well. Technically the Aussie flag has the Union Jack as well, but I think it would be better to show the Southern Cross instead since that symbolises Australia more. New Zealand uses a neutered Southern Cross with a missing star... and it's red.


I did put in the random stars... and yes, we do have the union jack.

I have two versions tho... southern cross and union jack.
August 24, 2009 2:36:17 PM

I agree selea. Sometimes you have the perfect answer, and the OP accepts it, and all you get is OK.
They may start the thread with OM$%&^%^&VYBUBLN?IBVUIB PC wont FYGF^*&GGOG&GHH, and then, when they get their answer, you get nothing, or theyre jerks who never lighten up, and they want you to do everything, expect it, and sometimes even argue things they accept is right, when its the very problem they have.

Its good to have a good community here at Toms, cause weve all gone thru it, and we appreciate each other more for it
August 24, 2009 2:39:50 PM




I've been comunitised...

Is this where we all have funny hand shakes, tap out feet three times and make sounds like a AMD processor with no heat sinks on...

Only time will tell

And the rest of the world plays WOW to minimal effect.
August 24, 2009 2:55:17 PM

Nope, this is where women from far away give us chocolate covered mushrooms, and we sit around thinking we are in wow
a b V Motherboard
August 24, 2009 6:03:19 PM

selea said:
I agree on what you say but I was not talkin about this but about the behaviour of the poster. The TC asked a question in bad manners. The TH staff member replied "I know what your problem is but I won't tell you". This is idiocy. The need to acknowledge others of yours wiseness is the attidute of the weak. If you don't want to answer just don't do it. There's no intelligent motive to simply answer not answering acting as one that knows the problem if not for a supposed instinct on being acknowledged. Either if he wanted to teach him a lesson acting this way makes him an ass**** for intelligent beings around, or at last for me. Speaking for myself if I lose time with someone I do it without caring about anything else, and if I chose to don't lose time I don't do it, simple as that.

If you think he is an idiot then don't reply, but if you do it then do it with style. The pantomime between words doesn't mean anything at all and doesn't serve nobody at all, neither the poster.

This is what I was talking about and not the fact that he had to reply to the TC.



Idiocy? The guy wanted a response but, according to his post, didn't want an answer. He got the response he asked for.
August 24, 2009 7:00:36 PM

Crashman said:
Idiocy? The guy wanted a response but, according to his post, didn't want an answer. He got the response he asked for.


Then maybe don't you think that probably if you had given a reply someone else would have liked to know it since it can happen to anyone? I for example don't know the answer fully to the question (I have some ideas how to procede on resolving it but don't know in the specific what could be wrong) and would like to know the possible cause if something similar happens to me or someone I know. Sometimes when these sort of things happens you become crazy if the problem didn't happen before, because nobody can know everything.

I would have accepted the fact that someone of the staff didn't bother to reply to an idiot, but since you took the time to do it I would have been happy to see that you had the intelligence of thinking that also if he didn't deserve the answer maybe someone else did.
a b V Motherboard
August 24, 2009 7:10:39 PM

<notes it's been 2 days and the OP hasn't posted back>

I figure we been Punk'd.
August 25, 2009 12:59:26 AM

Scotteq said:
<notes it's been 2 days and the OP hasn't posted back>

I figure we been Punk'd.

I disagree, we've thrown the thread off topic somewhat, so we've Punk'd the Punk. Or perhaps our forum mascot has Punk'd the Punk for us?

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