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goalguy02   06-08-2009 at 02:44:43 PM

I have two older GTX 260's (not 216 core). I was thinking of upgrading to one GTX 295. Would I notice an increase at all in performance? The GTX 260's run great but I would love the GTX 295. IF I did upgrade, I would keep one 260 and run it as a dedicated physx card in my second PCI-e slot.

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AMG   06-08-2009 at 03:05:30 PM
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I don't think it would, if you overclock the GTX260s. I seen GTX260s overclocked so one can beat a GTX275. it takes two GTX275s to =a gtx295

so if you overclock them, both than there will be no need to upgrade.

I don't think 216core is that much faster tbh

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The_Blood_Raven   06-08-2009 at 03:27:27 PM
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You would not notice a difference in any way.

Also 2 GTX 275s are faster than a GTX 295.

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goalguy02   06-08-2009 at 04:41:01 PM
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Maybe I will just either change my mobo and go 3-way 260's or SLI two 2gb 285's.

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AMG   06-08-2009 at 05:01:27 PM
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well its up to you.

you could get a tri SLI mobo and get like a 9800GT for physics. its more of a brag factor as one may not know how fast GTX260s are ;)

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Bronze Graphics badge Bluescreendeath   06-08-2009 at 05:13:02 PM
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AMG wrote :

I don't think it would, if you overclock the GTX260s. I seen GTX260s overclocked so one can beat a GTX275. it takes two GTX275s to =a gtx295

so if you overclock them, both than there will be no need to upgrade.

I don't think 216core is that much faster tbh




Two GTX275s do not equal a GTX295. Two GTX275s will dominate a GTX295.

On average, a GTX295 performs equal to two GTX260s, and at best, performs equal to two GTX260s slightly OCed.

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Successful_troll   06-08-2009 at 05:30:24 PM
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Bluescreendeath wrote :

Two GTX275s will dominate a GTX295.


I don’t like when I see the word `dominate` when the performance difference is only 10%. :fou: :fou: :fou:

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Bronze Graphics badge coozie7   06-08-2009 at 05:58:23 PM
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@ Goalguy02: What resoloution are you using? I cannot see dual GTX260s' running short of breath unless you are playing at 1920x1200 with 8XAA!
Perhaps you would be better off waiting for the next gen of cards and seeing what they can do rather than buying what is quickly becoming 'older' tech.

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Bronze Graphics badge Bluescreendeath   06-08-2009 at 06:04:39 PM
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Successful_troll wrote :

I don’t like when I see the word `dominate` when the performance difference is only 10%. :fou: :fou: :fou:



Yeh, you're right. Two GTX275 is better than the GTX295, not "dominate."

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mindless728   06-08-2009 at 06:23:45 PM
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what are you doing that you might need to upgrade, two GTX260's (even the older ones) , is quite a powerful setup, i don't see that running into problems unless you are using very high fsaa and/or 2560x1600 res

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The_Blood_Raven   06-08-2009 at 08:33:35 PM
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Successful_troll wrote :

I don’t like when I see the word `dominate` when the performance difference is only 10%. :fou: :fou: :fou:



A GTX 285 dominates an FX 5200. :D

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witcherx   06-08-2009 at 08:37:56 PM
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.................... NO....................

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AMG   06-08-2009 at 09:06:01 PM
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yeah I was about to say the GTX275 is "half" the GTX275 so two should be the same if not a bit more in performaces (and just about the same price:P)

I m still going to keep to my word, no point as if you overclock your GTX260s it will burn off a GTX275(single handed) so if you overclock them both what you get a GTX295 equivent in performaces....

would someone please tell me how much slower are the normal GTX260s are compared to the 216s?

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goalguy02   06-08-2009 at 10:18:35 PM
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coozie7 wrote :

@ Goalguy02: What resoloution are you using? I cannot see dual GTX260s' running short of breath unless you are playing at 1920x1200 with 8XAA!
Perhaps you would be better off waiting for the next gen of cards and seeing what they can do rather than buying what is quickly becoming 'older' tech.




coozie7,

I mainly play 1920x1080. I really get no performance drops in any games, even with AA and AS maxed. Games that slow down at that resolution are Crysis with AA; STALKER Clear sky with AA and Dx10.

Now you have made me rethink upgrading. Waiting till DX11 or GTX 3XX will probably be better. Any idea when we will see either DX11 or GTX3xx series??

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goalguy02   06-08-2009 at 10:23:52 PM
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mindless728 wrote :

what are you doing that you might need to upgrade, two GTX260's (even the older ones) , is quite a powerful setup, i don't see that running into problems unless you are using very high fsaa and/or 2560x1600 res




Honestly I really have no reason to upgrade. I love me some FSAA at 1920x1080 though. I don't get any real performance drops in any games I play. Unless I play Crysis @1080p with max FSAA, then I get ~30-40fps

GTX 260's SLI
Phenom II 940 @ 3.6
8gb corsair (was on sale lol)
Vista 64bit.


Thanks for all the interest people!!!

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Bronze Graphics badge coozie7   06-08-2009 at 10:26:23 PM
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@ Goalguy02: Rumours abound, as usual, but both should have their DX11 stuff out before years end.
Those games are really, really, REALLY hard on the hardware, so it's no surprise you have some slowdowns with either at that resoloution. Try turning the shadow details down or dropping the AA, both work wonders for the framerate.


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megamanx00   06-08-2009 at 10:51:29 PM
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I say just wait for DX11. There will only be a small difference moving from two GTX260s in SLI to a 295. It may be noticeable in some games depending on your setup, but you need keen eyes to see it :D. It just doesn't justify the cost. If you want a substantial difference then you will need to go to 2x 295s in SLI. Otherwise just wait for the DX11 cards.

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AMG   06-08-2009 at 11:52:35 PM
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they say it will be out when win 7 hits retail, which is march next year, but I persome the cards themselfs would be out time christmas this year

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B-Unit   06-09-2009 at 12:19:32 AM
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AMG wrote :

they say it will be out when win 7 hits retail, which is march next year, but I persome the cards themselfs would be out time christmas this year


Umm, no.

Win 7 will be out by mid October...

I would expect DX11 cards before Christmas tho.

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jennyh   06-09-2009 at 01:19:40 AM
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Pretty sure you'll have both win 7 and dx11 cards by october 22nd.

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AMG   06-09-2009 at 03:09:15 AM
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hmm a little odd, could have brought it foward through.

 

I ll check the RC again

 

okay thats still saying the expiry dates, just have to wait and see thats all.


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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   06-09-2009 at 03:14:52 AM
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jennyh wrote :

Pretty sure you'll have both win 7 and dx11 cards by october 22nd.


That's the word on the web.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/152638/windows_7_release_date_october_2009.html


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AMG   06-09-2009 at 03:48:19 AM
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I ve heard many conflicting stories, best stregy is just to sit back, and wait and see

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   06-09-2009 at 03:55:47 AM
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AMG wrote :

I ve heard many conflicting stories, best stregy is just to sit back, and wait and see


That's the one I'm going for, but it's fun to speculate.

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goalguy02   06-09-2009 at 04:51:08 PM
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Im always excited for new hardware, mainly from AMD on their cpus and nvidia GPU's.

How much faster will the GTX300's be? 15-20%??

Any speculation?

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   06-09-2009 at 05:03:11 PM
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15- 20% tops, I reckon but it's the 1st revision of the GT300 that I think will be the one to wait for.

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bikeracer4487   06-09-2009 at 05:36:35 PM
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I would keep your 2 GTX 260's. Out of curiosity what res are you running? I mean, there WOULD be a performance increase but it would most likely be ~5 fps, if that, you're better off trying to OC you're current setup. Although, if you're not running i7 already you could upgrade your mobo so you could add a 3rd 260 that would be fairly cheap and more than enough to hold you over until the DX11 cards come out, which, last I heard, will be around Spring 2010.

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AMG   06-09-2009 at 05:43:37 PM
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I to like to speclate, Nvida claims in the 30% but I m going to put it like this <30%:P cos I don't belive em till I see it and they haven't built the thing yet.

 

I think the HD58XX would be the card to wait for, if its anything like the HD48XX, AMD are staying very secret about it through.

 

and yes, I too heard spring 2010. With win 7, but I like to keep a open mind


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