9800GTX+ Sucks and GTS 250 PWNS

[one-shot]

After reading this article I can't help but not shake my head. Just a name change on a product can make it "sell like mad" (according to FUDzilla). The G92b architecture has lived a very long life. Can you imagine buying a CPU in 2 years with a new name then finding out it is the same one you previously purchased? Nvidia has some sketchy business practices but it seems to be working very well. I think I know what manufacturer is making make my next video card (ATI).

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14131/1/

 

[uncfan_2563]

well it is made on a newer technology (55nm). so it actually is an improvement...

-higher factory clocks
-overclocks better
-less heat
-therefore less noise

i think that is a pretty good incentive for a new card right?

 

[chowmanga]

Actually, the previous card already had a die shrink which is signified with the '+' in 9800gtx+. The cards with the old 65nm process are labeled without the plus sign. The only improvement the gts250 has over 9800gtx+ is that that in the 1gb version of the gts250, the card has a shorter pcb.

 

[megamanx00]

Those foolish fools.

 

[Amg]

the GTS250 is nothing new sept for the refabrication, and if you look at AMD cards it looks a little short. lol

its only clocked a little higher and refabrated, so less heat and noise, also it should be a bit more effenent than the 9800++

 

[jeffredo]

Renamed or not, its still very competitive in the lower-mid range arena (and that's what matters).

 

[jennyh]

Nvidia are just hurting themselves in the long run with their renaming.

 

[turboflame]

well it is made on a newer technology (55nm).

No it isn't, the 9800GTX+ was 55nm as well.

It's the exact same thing with a minor PCB revision.

 

[Amg]

No it isn't, the 9800GTX+ was 55nm as well.

It's the exact same thing with a minor PCB revision.

oh of course it is, thats all Nvida has been doing rencety rebranding

 

[one-shot]

Why rebuild...WHEN YOU CAN RENAME!

 

[buzznut]

The video card market is a big racket if you ask me. People keep buying cards that represent such tiny incremental increases in performance..When is the last time you bought a card and went "holy crap, this blows my old card away!"?

its been quite awhile for me. anyway, regardless the graphics people are good at getting people to continue shelling out money for just a little more juice. Whether its rebranding or a die shrink or whatever. I hope I can stick to my vow to not buy another card until there's one at least twice as fast for a decent price.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

You can turn a 9800GTX+ into a GTS250 by using the GTS250 bios.

The only advantage a GTS250 has is it's shorter in length and uses slightly less power. Performance and benchmarks between the two is basically the same.

 

[IzzyCraft]

Renamed or not, its still very competitive in the lower-mid range arena (and that's what matters).

Shh you'll hurt the ati fanboys feelings.

You can turn a 9800GTX+ into a GTS250 by using the GTS250 bios.

The only advantage a GTS250 has is it's shorter in length and uses slightly less power. Performance and benchmarks between the two is basically the same.

You can also find a lot more aftermarket coolers already installed when buying a GTS 250

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Imagine if we saw 40-60+% jump in cpus every year? Itd make the i7 look foolish. ATI price drops are coming, and unless the 250 sells for under 100$, it costs too much. No matter what brand or model..
What I find interesting is, people started off all over the 4890, by saying its just a revamped 4870, but it has more changes in it than a 9800+ to a 250, and alot more perf also.
Whatll be sad is, if ATI is still selling their 4980 2+ years from now, and have renamed it 2 other times, sorta like we see here, 8800gts, 9800gtx, 9800+ and now 250

 

[wh3resmycar]

The video card market is a big racket if you ask me. People keep buying cards that represent such tiny incremental increases in performance..When is the last time you bought a card and went "holy crap, this blows my old card away!"?

i bought an 8600gt as my first dx10 card, switched to a 9600gt 5 months later, blew my old card away. another 3 months had passed and got myself a 4850, blew my old card away, got myself a 4870, blew my old card away.

 

[wh3resmycar]

So we can deduce from the above statement that the fan speeds go progressively higher?

yup, where the fan speeds are inversely proportional to your sense of humor

 

[ausch30]

Shh you'll hurt the ati fanboys feelings.

You can also find a lot more aftermarket coolers already installed when buying a GTS 250

The performance of the card is pretty much on par with the 4850. The 4850 can easily be found for ~$90 after rebate and the GTS 250 is ~$115-$120. Just as Nvidia re-badged their 680i as the 780i, they've done it again. I don't believe that wanting the greatest value for your money makes you a fanboy.

Edit: Actually I just noticed that Newegg has a deal on the HIS 4850 for $79.99 w/ free shipping after promo code and MIR and it comes with Stalker Clear Sky. Pretty great deal for any of those that would consider a GTS 250.

 

[leo2kp]

Why not rebrand if the performance is still on-par or better than the competition? Again, this is why competition is a good thing.

 

[Amg]

yeah, but still teh rebranded stuff, don't does it...I don't see the GTS250 getting a clear win of the HD4850

 

[gamerk316]

The video card market is a big racket if you ask me. People keep buying cards that represent such tiny incremental increases in performance..When is the last time you bought a card and went "holy crap, this blows my old card away!"?

8800GTX from anything else. Heck, the card is still competitive...

 

[uncfan_2563]

ooh i musta miss understood the thing. i guess the GTX+ was the new tech

 

[jeffredo]

8800GTX from anything else. Heck, the card is still competitive...

Yup. Absolutely squashed the X850 XT it replaced - and I'm still using it happily 2 1/2 years later. Never had a video card last so long.

 

[chripuck]

My GTX 260 was quite an upgrade from my old 7800 GS AGP I went from medium/high settings in oblivion with 30 to 40 FPS to Max Everything at 150+ FPS. I'd say that was a wow moment...

 

[crusoe74]

My 8800GTS 512 monstered my previous card an AGP 6800GT. Have had it 18 months now and is still great, certainly won't be upgrading for a while.

 

[marcusl_07]

You go with ati and you won't get physX. You can't play mirrors edge smoothley on vista with Physx on. If you can have the ati card run nvidia physx than you will be very unique.