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May 20, 2009 1:15:07 AM

First off I would like to thank everyone in advance for their assistance, I would say that my computer knowledge is mid level at best so bear with me. With that in mind, I have been perusing the forums and have compiled what may or may not be a decent build.


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Summer Project (next 3months) BUDGET RANGE: $700 max

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, school, misc stuff.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: more reputable the better.

PARTS PREFERENCES: too noob for that.

OVERCLOCKING: would prefer to avoid, but it's whatever. SLI OR CROSSFIRE: doubtful

MONITOR RESOLUTION: traditionally 1024x768 atm, but monitor has potential for better.

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CPU and MOBO
I have two different options for this combination so far.

Option 1
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB($168)
GIGABYTE GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard ($80)
Total: $248

Option 2
AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz($139)
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard ($110)
Total: $239

Memory
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 ($63-25MIR=$38)

Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" ($75)

Video Card
HIS Hightech H485FN512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3($115-$20MIR=$95)


Case
COOLER MASTER($75)
This seems to be the case that everyone is recommending in other cheaper builds.

Power
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W($100-$20MIR=$80)
Another component I have seen suggested a couple of times.

DVD Drive
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X($24)
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Total w/ Option 1: $635
Total w/ Option 2: $626

these both scrape the upper limits of my budget, so if you see anywhere to "trim some fat" that would be fantastic as well.

Also, as a side note, I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on the good 'ole XP vs Vista battle. I gave the forums a once over but didn't seem to find anything too recent.

Once again, I appreciate your time.


-edited to include Proximon's suggestions-
May 20, 2009 2:00:22 AM

The GPU needs to be changed to a 4850 or 4770. This will free up some funds that you'll need elsewhere.

Option 2 leaves you with a board that can be crossfired. This gives you an easy quick upgrade path. That reeally sums up the changes I would make, except for the RAM, which needs to be upgraded to 1066.

Your PSU link goes to the Canadian Newegg :)  You get to save a bit there too.

Newegg is out of 720s
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Everyone is out of 4770s anyway

Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1066 because AMD processors benefit from it.

That works out pretty well. It also leaves open the option of adding a second video card, but if you do so don't wait too long... or it won't happen.

If you have saved enough here, get the slightly better case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



May 20, 2009 2:16:18 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.95 Free Shipping*
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 ($49.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$10.00 Combo Price: $189.98
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7400 - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $47.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $174.99 ($154.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
MSI N260GTX-T2D896-OCv4 GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 Free Shipping*
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23.99 Free Shipping*
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM

Total: $641.88 | $596.88 w/mail in rebates

*Switch out psu and vid card with these down below for a cheaper version of that build.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 ($49.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.99 ($119.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
EVGA 512-P3-1150-TR GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Free Cryostasis game w/ registration at manufacturer website

Total: $581.88 | $561.88 w/mail in rebates

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.... <--- Save yourself some money on an o/s and dl the 64 bit version of Windows 7
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May 20, 2009 5:39:52 AM

At higher resolutions the GTS 250 does better, which is probably what that chart reflects. It's actually the same card as the 9800GTX+. So unless you'll be playing beyond 1680X1050 go with the 4850. As I said it also leaves room to upgrade to crossfire if you decide to get a bigger monitor.

May 20, 2009 3:20:15 PM

As usual, Proximon's suggestions are right on the money. +1 to the Phenom II 720 build with an ATI GPU to leave the option of crossfire open.
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