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-------Recertified Cards... BFG GTX 275 vs. 280.--------

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June 10, 2009 5:25:31 AM

I have a few questions, well, really just need the opinion of the public about a few things. First on my list, is whether you guys would recommend/be okay with purchasing a rectified card.
I am looking to purchase my next graphics card here in the next month or two, and I pretty much have it narrowed down to the BFG GTX 275. This card seems to beat out all the 275's ( except for a few, which price way outweighs its worth). This specific BFG GTX 275 card also beats out the 280's, which I have determined through many different sources. Specifically the benchmarks, and article right here on Tomshardware.

This is the card I am looking at getting. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It is being offered for $250 currently. ( I expect it to go down again soon, considering it was about $20 cheaper about two weeks ago)

And the below two links show the re certified GTX 285 cards.

Recertified: EVGA GeForce GTX 285= $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Recertified: XFX GeForce GTX 285=$280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So to wrap up that question, would it be safe and, or worth it to bump up to these recertified GTX 285's?

Now the next question.
As I have stated earlier, I have found BFG's GTX 275 to beat out the 280's. However... BFG also makes a 280.
so here's what I found.
BFG GTX 275/280
Core clock: 648MHz vs. 665MHz
Memory: 896MB vs. 1GB
Memory Clock: 2304MHz vs. 2400MHz
Price: $250 vs. $275

Wrapping up the second question, considering the cards are made by the same company, and the GTX 280 is supposeddd to be better than the GTX 275. Would it be correct to say that BFG GTX 280 would indeed be better than their GTX 275? Even though from the benchmarks, the 275 is beating out other 280's. And of course the repetitive question, would the $25 be worth the performance the 280 brings. ( if it's better...)
a b U Graphics card
June 10, 2009 12:15:12 PM

I would NOT recommend you buy re-certified, repackaged, resold, re-anything. (unless you are getting at least a 50% discount, and won't mind it if it doesn't work when you get it, and don't mind going through the RMA process maybe 1, 2, 3 times.)
I have done in the past, more than once, and I have learned my lesson. No more. The few pitiful bucks you save aren't worth the headache you are likely going to have.
Last item I bought was a motherboard, (Gigabyte) re-certified and guarenteed to work. Yeah right, it would do absolutely nothing, nada...not even a light would come on. Sent it back, bought the exact same one new, put the exact parts back together, bingo, everything fired right up, no worries.
June 10, 2009 3:17:06 PM

I really didn't like the idea of purchasing a recertified card. I'm assuming the buyer would have to pay for shipping for the RMA anyway, which after 1 or 2 times would pretty put equal the $50 I'd be saving anyway
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June 10, 2009 5:20:07 PM

The main thing I really want answered though, is will BFG's 280 be better than the BFG GTX 275? Even though, the benchmarks prove to beat out the GTX 280.
June 10, 2009 5:41:03 PM

ummmm... my recertified GTX 260 core 216 still works fine since March...
June 10, 2009 6:11:00 PM

I'm guessing it's pretty much a gamble with the recertified cards. You might get a good one, you might get a dud.
June 10, 2009 9:48:06 PM

2 recertified 8800 GTS 512mb still kicking ass in my cousin's PC, overclocked to 780 core/ 1050 memory by yours truly.
June 10, 2009 9:48:34 PM

silvertounge said:
The main thing I really want answered though, is will BFG's 280 be better than the BFG GTX 275? Even though, the benchmarks prove to beat out the GTX 280.


GTX 280 = GTX 275
June 10, 2009 10:50:26 PM

wrong the gtx280 is NOT better than the gtx 275...the 275 is made on a smaller process, uses less power, less heat etc...and beats the gtx 280 in almost all benchmarks so suck on that one...

to O.P. get the 275
June 11, 2009 12:14:43 AM

eagles453809 said:
wrong the gtx280 is NOT better than the gtx 275...the 275 is made on a smaller process, uses less power, less heat etc...and beats the gtx 280 in almost all benchmarks so suck on that one...

to O.P. get the 275


Absolutely wrong, and yet right.

The GTX 275 is not faster than the GTX 280, they are about the same with the GTX 280 having some slight advantages here and there thanks to the larger amount of RAM, but with the draw backs you listed.

June 11, 2009 4:19:02 AM

I have also found that the GTX, specifically BFG's GTX 275 beats out the other 280's. Wouldn't you think though, since BFG's 280 has a faster core/memory clock, it would beat it's 275?
June 11, 2009 4:21:59 AM

The question here is not so much does the 275 out preform the 280, or vise versa. I have found, even at higher resolutions, that BFG's 275 beats out the 280's on todays most demanding games ( spare maybe 1 or 2 games at the most.). The real question is, would BFG's 280, beat out their 275.
June 11, 2009 1:50:03 PM

i think the bfg ocx 280 performs better than the 275... it performs the same as the 285 thanks to its high clocks 665/2400. The gtx 285 and the 280 are the same except with different clocks, if you get them to 285 levels u get a 285 performance.
June 11, 2009 3:20:09 PM

silvertounge said:
I have also found that the GTX, specifically BFG's GTX 275 beats out the other 280's. Wouldn't you think though, since BFG's 280 has a faster core/memory clock, it would beat it's 275?


Yes as I mentioned earlier in this case:

GTX 280 > GTX 275
June 11, 2009 9:51:42 PM

jitpublisher said:
I would NOT recommend you buy re-certified, repackaged, resold, re-anything. (unless you are getting at least a 50% discount, and won't mind it if it doesn't work when you get it, and don't mind going through the RMA process maybe 1, 2, 3 times.)
I have done in the past, more than once, and I have learned my lesson. No more. The few pitiful bucks you save aren't worth the headache you are likely going to have.
Last item I bought was a motherboard, (Gigabyte) re-certified and guarenteed to work. Yeah right, it would do absolutely nothing, nada...not even a light would come on. Sent it back, bought the exact same one new, put the exact parts back together, bingo, everything fired right up, no worries.


It's probably more because it was a Gigabyte board... seriously, I got 3 motherboard (3 different revisions) dying on me in less than a year...

I will never buy another product from them, never!

Oh, by the way, it was a totally new board, not re-certified.
June 12, 2009 1:33:02 AM

For $25 more... It just seems crazy not to go ahead and bump up to the 285, rather than go with BFG's 275.
June 12, 2009 1:33:32 AM

$20, $30 more, actually*
a b U Graphics card
June 12, 2009 1:25:42 PM

redgarl said:
It's probably more because it was a Gigabyte board... seriously, I got 3 motherboard (3 different revisions) dying on me in less than a year...

I will never buy another product from them, never!

Oh, by the way, it was a totally new board, not re-certified.



Really? I have never had any problems with Gigabyte except the one I bought that was a recertified board.
Gigabyte for me is near, if not at the top of my list.
But it was not just the board that detered me from buying reconditioned or recertified parts. That decision has been made after years of purchases. You cannot judge a product name simply because you got a bad part once. That will happen with all of them at one time or another and if you buy enough parts.
But back to reconditioned items, some worked, some are still working, some had problems or most of them simply did not work at all right out of the box. Law of averages for me turned out to be most of the time, you end up wishing you had just bought new.
a b U Graphics card
June 12, 2009 1:34:42 PM

The_Blood_Raven said:
2 recertified 8800 GTS 512mb still kicking ass in my cousin's PC, overclocked to 780 core/ 1050 memory by yours truly.


Ah, the amazing 8800GTS 512. Still running 1 of those myself, and it still games right along, and still overclocks like no tomorrow.
And yeah, I might be tempted to buy recertified one of those.
Mainly because they are simply one of the very best, if not the best video card ever made. In this case, I would say
that most of the returns were in fact user problem, the cards returned were likely perfectly fine!
June 13, 2009 12:43:37 AM

After reviewing a little more, it seems the 285's are only beating our the BFG GTX 275 by just 3-5FPS, and the ocasional 10fps. However, better is still better.
June 13, 2009 3:41:05 AM

I'd like to ask.... On average, how are the 285's on heat/power usage vs. the 275's.
June 13, 2009 4:16:27 AM

when an item is recertified it has been tested. my recertified 9800gx2 is going fine, oh yeh jit the 1.5 seagate is still going too.having said that I wouldn't buy recertified unless you get a really good deal on it.
a b U Graphics card
June 13, 2009 11:17:34 AM

Get the one with the longer warranty. My recertified EVGA 8800 GTS 512 dies 2 weeks after the 90 day warranty and EVGA said too bad but no discount or credit for a replacement. Go with XFX.
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