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August 24, 2009 5:09:22 PM

Hello Everyone, first time poster here, and im a first time builder.
So i had a lot of problems then the average user when buying parts, for example being sent the wrong psu then rmaing that.
Case had a dent, rma that. Got a bad motherboard,dieing on me 2 weeks into, rma that, and so now, I'm at the 26th day of the 30th that newegg would be cool with me.
with their warranty, i have all my parts together and i re-put in my build once more. I now get to enjoy it, well somewhat need to finish
homework and school starts in 3 days.
Anyways, My I still have a couple dilemma I'd like to ask people.

So when i put it back on and start it up the 1st time, i got an error saying cpu over tempature press f1 to resume. So I googled the error and the solution was to replace the heatsink and to make sure the hsf is pushed in all the way
Well I knew that it was for sure this problem since i broke both of these symptoms.
Since i had to take out everything and stick it back on, the cpu heatsink was all rubbed off and everything.

The intel stock fan that came with it, 2 of the pin's wont push in, yes i've tried from every direction/angle, only 2 of the 4 will go in. I assume it might have been messed up when i took them off since i had to rma that mobo.

So now my rig is runnin at this; Which is extremely high at idle! I understand the factors of a bad thermal compound that's been really smeared off sine
the first time i had to take off and put it back on, but are these tempatures really reasonable? I mean i google up with peoples temp
being idle at like 30 degress celcius and mine's hittin 70 at start up.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Dragonhero915/Co...
Sry if you can't see it, it says Tj Max 100C
Core 0 73C, Core 1 68C, Core 2 68, Core 3 70.

I ordered artic silver 5 and a zalman cnps9500 to replace both of those along with a 120mm side panel fan for gpu,articlean and another connector.

The question to that will bring me up to my next current question.
So im running a Q9550, And i would like to overclock, (of course after i get the new fan in). I was thinking of going up to 3.5, so while, booting up i went into the bios screen and I'm lookin around and there's like no way i can change the multiplyer or the fsb.
I'm usin a ASUS P5Q SE PLUS motherboard also. So i guess the question here is, where do i go to, so i can edit all these and
begin overclocking?

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Dragonhero915/IM...

Please and Thanks Community!
August 24, 2009 5:39:13 PM

Hello, I just went through some of the same things you did with my q9550 rig. I can possibly offer assistance with your CPU issues. (I have built a few systems in the past and this is my first experience with the newer stuff) Reguardless the thermal paste issue is a big one for temps. I used artic silver5 on mine with a coolermaster V8 and i have temps running between 35 to 40 for the CPU. My first issue however was the program that I was using to report temps was giving inaccurate readings. Try running Real Temp and CUPID. I couldn't really tell what program you had running on yours with that pic. My system monitor that came wtih the mobo was giving me temps around 60-65 so it was off. If your getting messages from the bios however, it seems like you may be having heat transfer issues to the heatsink.
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August 24, 2009 5:52:31 PM

After my first run in with turning on the computer, the message stopped popping up, but im still getting high readings. I have cpuid on my computer, but wow i didn't know that could tell you temps, which i guess brings me to ask where i can look that up in cpuid.
In the picture I used Core Temp to get my temperature readings.

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August 24, 2009 6:06:02 PM

http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitorpro.php that will show you temps and all of your voltages and such. Nifty tool. And i thought for a min... You only have 2 of the 4 pins holding on your heatsink? If thats the case make sure all of the little slits are lined up the correct way (on the black tabs the removal things) I only mention this because My first time assembling this system i had one that wasn't when i first applied the stock fan.
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August 24, 2009 6:13:38 PM

jx02123 said:
http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitorpro.php that will show you temps and all of your voltages and such. Nifty tool. And i thought for a min... You only have 2 of the 4 pins holding on your heatsink? If thats the case make sure all of the little slits are lined up the correct way (on the black tabs the removal things) I only mention this because My first time assembling this system i had one that wasn't when i first applied the stock fan.


Well here i went ahead and just used realtemp.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Dragonhero915/IM...

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August 24, 2009 6:18:52 PM

MRFS said:
Read and heed:

http://www.supremelaw.org/systems/heatsinks/warning.htm


There is a very cost-effective solution here:

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/lgbowiscsp.html


We're running a brand new Q9550 with SpeedStep
enabled and an FSB=400MHz x 8.5 = ~3.4GHz,
and the CPU temps are hovering around 100 F.


It's the stupid push-pins!!


MRFS

Thanks for that, I've already ordered the zalman fan though.

Now i just need to worry about my overclocking/bios issue.
Here are some more pictures i just took to help out.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Dragonhero915/IM...
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August 24, 2009 6:24:00 PM

> I'm lookin around and there's like no way i can change the multiplyer or the fsb.


In the BIOS, set "Ai Overclock Tuner" to MANUAL.

I checked your motherboard User Manual, and
your "System Bus" can run at 1600 MHz
(raw "Bus Speed" of 400 MHz quad-pumped).

Then, at "FSB Frequency" enter your raw FSB clock rate e.g. 400.

See Page 2-17 in your motherboard User Manual,
for further details.


You might also want to enable SpeedStep,
so your machine will automatically increase
the FSB multiplier when the CPU is busy.


MRFS
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August 24, 2009 6:30:49 PM

MRFS said:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Dragonhero915/IM...


Here, set "Ai Overclock Tuner" to MANUAL.

Then, change the "FSB Frequency".


RTFM (Read The "Fine" Manual :) 

MRFS

so that's what i had to change? Oooh, i was like looking around at images and videos and other people just simply went into their bios and moved around their multiplier. I will try this, Yeah i didn't look at the manual, then again i wonder where i put it, most likely in the garage with the rest of the boxes, thanks for your help tho MRFS
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August 24, 2009 6:35:08 PM

The Manual is on the Support CD in .pdf format:
it's also at the ASUS website for that motherboard
in .zip compressed format:

http://usa.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=...


Then go to "Download' and you'll see "Manual" in the
list of possible "downloads" for that motherboard.


MRFS
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August 24, 2009 10:02:54 PM

MRFS said:
> I'm lookin around and there's like no way i can change the multiplyer or the fsb.


In the BIOS, set "Ai Overclock Tuner" to MANUAL.

I checked your motherboard User Manual, and
your "System Bus" can run at 1600 MHz
(raw "Bus Speed" of 400 MHz quad-pumped).

Then, at "FSB Frequency" enter your raw FSB clock rate e.g. 400.

See Page 2-17 in your motherboard User Manual,
for further details.


You might also want to enable SpeedStep,
so your machine will automatically increase
the FSB multiplier when the CPU is busy.


MRFS


I was reading around and most people say to turn it off, so that it'll just stay oc'd all the time for more stability and to i don't have to wait to start doin somethin for it to turn on.
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August 24, 2009 11:53:01 PM

MRFS said:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Dragonhero915/IM...


Here, set "Ai Overclock Tuner" to MANUAL.

Then, change the "FSB Frequency".


RTFM (Read The "Fine" Manual :) 

MRFS

Was in bios, so i turned ai overclock tuner to manual. Then i assumed when u say fsb frequency u talked about fsb strap to north bridge, it turns to 333 when it goes manual but i can't seem to change it anymore if it's manual.
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