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Selecting a good Heatsink for my i7 920 build. Info needed

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August 25, 2009 5:14:21 AM

Hey there, I am new to the site, so hello to everyone! =)

I am currently working on my i7 920 build, I have the EVGA X-58 Mobo in a Cooler Master - Storm Sniper Case/Tower.

Here is my problem. The heat sinks I am looking at may not fit. My noob ass cant figure out if I can squeeze them in or not.

Link to Case/Tower: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...(Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form)-_-Cooler+Master-_-11119194

Link to Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

On the Mobo, notice the heatsink on the left side of the Processor bay, and the heatsink and fan at the bottom.
On the Tower, notice the 200mm fan attatched to the top.

Can either of these 2 fit?
1st choice - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2nd choice - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Id prefer the Vigor if they are equal, to keep the lighting the same in the case.

Which would be the better performer?
Is ther a better option?
What is the best thermal paste?


Much thanks in advance!
August 25, 2009 6:41:48 AM

Both very bad choices

research the cpu tests done on this site, xbit and and and an

you get your correct answer - also want a dual fan set up


when the door fan does not fit we use a 92mm hot glues in place of the 120 such as with antec 1200 - best case made there are some as good but antect was the first

just copy the warpedsystems X4 i7 4.0SC - this runs 3.8-4.1ghz at 75-85c depending on the cpu binning





Warpedsystems does not sell systems to anyone on THG so do not pm me or contact make a post plz!
August 25, 2009 6:49:13 AM

storm is a good case but........ you can not beat the antec especially if your oc high or have dual gpus

if you not going over 3.4ghz and you have only 250w of gpu then storm is fine. remember we are very consverative - i do have the case here but we never built for for the main reason it needed a custom window and that drove up cost.

i am sure the noc will fit > oops did i just tell you what cpu cooler to use?

both the hsf you mentioned have been show to very very inferior and very very very low in performace as compared to cost - you can get xig, etc and get the same peformance.

remember most fans that come with systems may not be the best fan - depends do you want lights? do you need more flow? is it too loud?


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evga mobos suck - they are terrible - thex58 has known defects
gig or asus - p6t is unbeatable for the price
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all will fit!



ps: thermalright is really heavy for shipping - and even handing off the mobo. the true is not better then what is shown in the photo above!

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August 25, 2009 7:16:24 AM

best cooler is noct

fans you want 1700 rpm or 70-80cfm the best fans are exotic fans that hard to find. - PM ME

if you do not mind a loud system, such as if you have loud speakers then use 2000-2500 rpm fans with a fan control.


the fans on this are really good if you want quiet system -- I REPEAT QUIET!!!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

we use 70-77cfm 120mm fans - dual -seal around the fan with foam. compress the fans buy looping zip times from hole to hole see below:

http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h138/4rothrocks/?acti...
August 25, 2009 7:56:54 AM

Get one of these CPU HSF Coolers'.
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail $44.98 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Scythe MUGEN-2 $36.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CoGage True Spirit Heatpipe CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Silent Fan for Intel LGA1366 $37.95
(It is similar to the ThermalRight and cools within 1 or 2 degrees' of it.)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

If you do get the CoGage True Spirit, I would suggest this Mounting Bracket, instead of the Push-Pin one that come with it.
Thermalright LGA1366 Bolt-Thru-Kit Retail BOX Bolt-thru Board Mounting kit $9.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

If you want one of the Best CPU HSF Cooler for the Core i7 then I would suggest this one, but it is more expensive.
Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme-1366 RT Premium Heatpipe Cooler for Intel LGA1366 $74.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

One of the latest Reviews on 1366 CPU HSF Coolers'.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/07/23/intel_core_i7...
August 25, 2009 8:07:18 AM

i have tested all this stuff

you can see photos of all these i7 systems. if you want info pm me! no more posting - i do not need noobs listing stuff out that they have no clue.

xig sucks on i7 but is good on core 2
thermalright 120 - heck i posted photos of that in 2006 yesterday in 965EE - its too heavy!!!!

and not as good as others!

PM me i am not posting any more then i have if your building a system - you make posts on THG. i check it out, and if you look legit i give free tech support - if you speakl english i call you anywhere in the world 1pm to 3am central standard time!!!

only for noobies that need help building systems on THG!


ps: you got factor in sealing, the case, the fans they use, the range of temps, and a lot more stuff.


wow i am getting pissy in my old age!
August 25, 2009 8:14:12 AM

here just throw in dual rads or dual pumps or both!






there posting photos makes me feel better!!!!!


back to the cooler debate! any new site, is probably biased stick with the established testers like THG, like toms hardware, like toms hardware guide o ya and and and an, xbit and few others - be skeptical of others.


research it! and make a good decision based on multi site reviews!

did they use the stock fans or the same fan? same fan is the only test
did they seal it?

is open or closed? desktop or case

did they do both?

ps:

here is one more!!!!!



my point?


is used a self contained water system for around $100 air coolers are dumb with an i7!!!!

many many factors did they do 70f room and 90f room?
August 25, 2009 8:21:34 AM

Awesome stuff guys. Thanks for all the info! This is great!
August 25, 2009 9:08:21 AM

dragonsprayer said:
i have tested all this stuff

you can see photos of all these i7 systems. if you want info pm me! no more posting - i do not need noobs listing stuff out that they have no clue.

xig sucks on i7 but is good on core 2
thermalright 120 - heck i posted photos of that in 2006 yesterday in 965EE - its too heavy!!!!

and not as good as others!

PM me i am not posting any more then i have if your building a system - you make posts on THG. i check it out, and if you look legit i give free tech support - if you speakl english i call you anywhere in the world 1pm to 3am central standard time!!!

only for noobies that need help building systems on THG!


ps: you got factor in sealing, the case, the fans they use, the range of temps, and a lot more stuff.


wow i am getting pissy in my old age!

Lets see, you suggest the Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 which weighs in at 770g and you say the Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme-1366 RT that weighs in at 790 is to heavy and all the others are crap. When the Noctua does not even make it into the top 10 of 1366 Cpu Coolers. Then you follow up this post with a very good WaterCooled system, that costs what? Around $350 to $500 for it, when you do not know if the OP has enough funds to go that route and he ask about an Air Cooled CPU Cooler on if it would not fit or not into his case.. Guess you are full of piss n vinegar. :pfff: 
August 25, 2009 9:46:21 AM

lol! that is wrong
thermalright ultra 120 has 3-5 mounting systems the first mount system in late 2006 and early 2007 did not work.
see my fix on new egg in may of 2007: bend the brackets and use extra cpu compound!

thermalright does not include fans
but the noc includes 2

the difference between one who acutally installes ones and one who does not read enough details!

at least that is my guess - thermalright is twice as heavy as anything out there

keep in mind i am a big thermalright guy we went into biz in 2003 using the xp-90. i was the one that unleashed the mods for the dished 120 years and years ago

see my post in newegg almost 2.5 years ago:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N...


DragonSprayer
Tech Level: high
Ownership: more than 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg 5/18/2007 5:07:47 PM Total junk by a hardcore TR supporter


Pros: Best design - leader in heap pipe cooler. TR is the standard to beat. Thermalright makes great heatsinks but it appears the quality control in no better then was last year - see my review in 7-06.

Cons: Totally dished - i put a strait edge on this and its not strait. But it was not until i used a flashlight that i saw how poorly made this heat sink is.

Other Thoughts: I push Thermalright products on forums - i compared a intel cooler and a venessa s. Both intel and venessa has slight unevenness but no were the ultra-120.
HOW TO FIX THIS: APPLY EXTRA THEMAL COMPPUND - it really works. Second bend the tabs on the mobo back plate slightly back to increase pressure. I still have not tested this hs with the q6600 running 3.2ghz if it works well i will not post again - if it fails to work i will repost and give it a 1



note: thermalright had not yet really expained the dish shape was intentional it gives better trasfer as we all now know!!! did you know that?

its been copied by many!
August 25, 2009 9:58:06 AM

littlemack1980 said:
Ok I found this
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/core-i...

Thanks again, so much for the help guys :) 




very good you found it -- but..... there is only 72-74 degree difference. and the fans are not all the same. then you have to factor in other things like compound, how its applied and the 775 and 1366 are different animals

noc is the best - use their fans for quiet use others for max performance

if you do not mind stressing your mobo and possible breaking it go with the thermaright



i could post photos of all the systems with many of the coolers but, the noc is the best - when, sealed, when fan types are applied, when using the dual fan system with same mounting - as shown above with zip times to compress them

also we use small triangle of foam in each corner of the fan then seal around the top and sides


at 3.8-4.1ghz (turbo gives the range) noc with a good i7 920 D0 will get you 77-85 f depending the room temp at 100% multi test

we run anti virus, anti spy, prime 95 64 bit or orthos for 32bit - plus cycle through 3dmakr06 over and over -- that is stree testing - we run prime for 7 days to pass and then it must pass the final tests for 1 day


G l

i am out - maybe i should post a photo - so i am not so pissy?

master water tech greg:









greg works for me - this is not me - i am old like dirt!
August 25, 2009 10:03:57 AM

Just get a Cogage True Spirit, it's the top cooler at the moment with a single fan, it beats the Prolimatech Mega series, the Thermalright True extreme, the Noctua SE1366.

and it's only $40.
August 25, 2009 11:43:47 AM

@dragonsprayer......look, you arrogant self promoting prick, I am no noob. I also build computers for a living and have facts to back up my recommendation as well as personal experience. YOU are the one talking out of your ass as others have pointed out. The coolers you recommend are fine, but LOSE by a wide margin and cost more than my rec. as shown here.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
That is with a single low flow fan my rec outperforms yours by about 10 degrees. If you use the fans I recommended in a push pull config you can improve on that even more. This is not the place for an advertisement for your business, it is the place to give sound advice and opinions to help people.
August 27, 2009 2:15:17 AM

scythe mugen-2 ftw!

That's the cooler i got... but i didn't install yet. It's HUGEEE
August 27, 2009 5:29:11 AM

lol i just found that :)  I put a fresh link on the above post.
August 27, 2009 5:55:00 AM

Correction, the Thermalright IFX-14 is the best ATM, with its thermalright IO-4 or something, total is like 90$ but yeah, its huge, and it'll only fit in a full ATX tower
August 27, 2009 5:56:57 AM



For some reason they did not get the results out of the Prolimatech Megahalems that other review sites have achieved, and that I have gotten out of my builds. I think this might be due to the way they set the direction of airflow, from bottom to top. The other reviews and I both use the front to back mounting method. This seems to get much better results from this cooler...but it could be a bad mounting plate or something else that held it back slightly in that review. It was still one of the top coolers, but fell short of the "amazing" results I've seen.
August 29, 2009 3:55:12 AM

I ended up going with the Prolimatech Megahalems heatsink and IC Diamond 7 Carat Thermal Compound.

http://www.prolimatech.com/products/megahalems.html
http://www.innovationcooling.com/article1.htm


I have yet to decide on fans for push and pull. I prefer to have something around 1600 rpm, 20-35 dbs, 70-95 cfm, black or clear. Quality...

Anyone have suggestions on 120X120X25 fans?

I dont know what is considered the best, the systems I've always worked with have been stock or elcheapo. I am looking for the best though!

Thanks again!

December 1, 2009 6:38:12 AM

belial2k said:
@dragonsprayer......look, you arrogant self promoting prick, I am no noob. I also build computers for a living and have facts to back up my recommendation as well as personal experience. YOU are the one talking out of your ass as others have pointed out. The coolers you recommend are fine, but LOSE by a wide margin and cost more than my rec. as shown here.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
That is with a single low flow fan my rec outperforms yours by about 10 degrees. If you use the fans I recommended in a push pull config you can improve on that even more. This is not the place for an advertisement for your business, it is the place to give sound advice and opinions to help people.



bial = amature

dragon = pro! check the data: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/core-i...


your guys mis me?


first the noc includes fans and is cheaper!

second the noc cools better at higher cpu speeds - after all only noobs run there i7 C0 below 3.8ghz or their D0 below 4ghz!


noc wins! belial loses, dude noc has just come out with the best cooler known to man! i stumbled on this post researching the new cooler!

ok i mis you guys but i got to run computer to build and no money in it!



December 1, 2009 6:43:02 AM

littlemack1980 said:
I ended up going with the Prolimatech Megahalems heatsink and IC Diamond 7 Carat Thermal Compound.

http://www.prolimatech.com/products/megahalems.html
http://www.innovationcooling.com/article1.htm


I have yet to decide on fans for push and pull. I prefer to have something around 1600 rpm, 20-35 dbs, 70-95 cfm, black or clear. Quality...

Anyone have suggestions on 120X120X25 fans?

I dont know what is considered the best, the systems I've always worked with have been stock or elcheapo. I am looking for the best though!

Thanks again!



water cooling fans - i can not tell you the name but you can find them. check water cooling forums and find the massive fan data done by martin or martin friends. you find you fan answer there.

key is 1700 rpm with out a speed control use a resistor to get around 1700 above 2000 rpm 120mm get loud - this generally true for all. below 1500 your wasting cooling since the fans are so quiet.

belial2k -lol! you be building for what a year? noobie! sorry i am not arrogant or self promoting! i post photos for people to copy and learn..... ok good luck..noobie!
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