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Quetzacoatl   06-28-2003 at 08:19:27 AM

Easy poll. Which chipset for graphics was your favorite oldie? For Ati, anything before the 9800/9700 series, Nvidia, the 5900/5800 series, and a lot of other manufactuers from older times. If you see any chipsets missing (which I likely forgot a few or more), let me know.

<b>favorite graphics chipset</b>
Instead of Rdram, why not just merge 4 Sdram channels...

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Quetzacoatl   06-28-2003 at 08:26:10 AM
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I liked the classic Geforce2 GTS for the most part, as it was my first serious graphics card. (unless you consider a Creative tnt1 to be serious O.o) Second, i'd probably put in a vote for the Radeon 8500. Good card on line with the Geforce3, and way ahead in AA and Aniso.

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dhlucke   06-28-2003 at 09:51:42 AM
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I voted for the Voodoo3. Not that it's the best chipset I've had, but it sure impressed me the most when I upgraded to it. My jaw dropped when I first used that card.

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basmic   06-28-2003 at 10:51:21 AM
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Agreed! Although my Voodoo 3 2000 ran pretty damn hot, she made my black undies turn white at the time. :redface:

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melb_angel19   06-28-2003 at 11:58:07 AM
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(Poo Here)
I guess its all subjective... i like the TNT2 as my first serious card WAS a tnt2, and at the time the sweet 32bit graphics poo-ed on the voodoo's 16bit.

It was also my first major overclocking attempt.
The Diamond V770 came stock as 125core/150mem, and i got the sucker up to 157core/205mem... man it ran burningly hot! (no active fan mind)
Never died though. :)

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eden   06-28-2003 at 05:42:51 PM
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While I agree Voodoo 3 was excellent, especially when you ran silky smooth Glide games (finally games optimized for a GL API that actually RAN fully smooth even when they had so much effects), the geForce 3 was the epitome of a new graphics world. It brought shaders.

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RobD   06-28-2003 at 09:29:16 PM
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I still have my Voodoo3, in my works PC. Dropped it in when CS sessions during lunch took off. Beats an 815 video anyway.

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Spitfire_x86   06-29-2003 at 01:28:59 AM
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nForce (1) IGP-128 aka. GeForce2 Integrated GPU

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Rubberbband   06-29-2003 at 01:30:57 AM
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Definetly my Voodoo 3 3000. It made Half Life look like a Dream!

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Flamethrower205   06-29-2003 at 09:05:47 AM
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2MB Cirrus Logic cause it r0xx0rs all the cards.

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jaythaman   06-29-2003 at 11:11:34 AM
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1 mb trident ownz that

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svol   06-29-2003 at 02:57:12 PM
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TNT 2... for its time it was an awsome GPU.

I also like my Ti4200 although I'm going to replace it this month.

My CPU fan spins so fast that it creates a wormhole :eek:

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eden   06-29-2003 at 08:22:32 PM
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TNT2 was not a GPU.

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eden   06-29-2003 at 08:23:33 PM
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You sure?
Wow, my uncle's P3 750 with the V3 3000 absolutely sucked, it ran at around 20FPS most of the time!

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svol   06-29-2003 at 08:34:43 PM
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It wasn't? What was it then? A video chipset? Then why isn't the GeForce2 a video chipset?

It processes graphical data... how do you want to call that? I call it a GPU... I also call the GeForce FX a GPU and not the name nVidia gave it to it (VPU).

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eden   06-29-2003 at 08:51:19 PM
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GPUs came with geForces.
Previously it was just video accelerator, and for some reason they never were "graphical processing units". All I know was that GPUs came when geForces came.
Wish we had a pro on this issue though.

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Quetzacoatl   06-30-2003 at 09:08:42 AM
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Eh??? Like what? Aquanox or something? I haven't seen a Voodoo based system that has genuinely "sucked".

I want to see an <font color=blue>Ati Radeon 99999 Ultra Pro</font color=blue>, based on the <font color=red>AtiRage core</font color=red>. And people wonder how a <font color=purple>Geforce3</font color=purple> is better than a <font color=orange>Geforce4 Mx...</font color=orange>

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svol   06-30-2003 at 07:32:29 PM
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You don't actually let the companies decide the names, do you?

What if Intel said that only the Pentium series are real CPUs and the rest are just calculation accelerators? For me everything that calculates graphical data only is a GPU.

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AMD_Man   07-01-2003 at 07:23:35 PM
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Voodoo4 4500! It's not a screaming fast card. It was merely an enhanced Voodoo3 (32-bit support, higher res textures, 32MB RAM, etc), however, I still own one and I'll never forget 3dfx as long as I have it.

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eden   07-02-2003 at 11:03:24 PM
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No, I did mean CS. It still plays pretty badly on his 750 in 1024*768.

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eden   07-02-2003 at 11:04:26 PM
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Yeah but that implies new DX9 GPUs are really as they call them, VPUs.

I do believe they called them GPUs now because they CAN process Vertex and Pixels with new effects on them. In the past most of that work was done on CPUs if I am not mistaken.

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svol   07-03-2003 at 05:45:14 PM
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Vertex and pixel shaders where only fully hardware calculated with the GeForce3 introduction.

Don't see GPU as some kind of brand name, see them as a name of the FUNCTION of a chip.

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eden   07-04-2003 at 03:22:08 AM
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Indeed, which is why I am saying they should only be used from geForce 1 and up as well as Radeons. Anything less is not a real GPU.

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svol   07-04-2003 at 07:52:04 PM
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GeForce1 didn't have any shaders though... and they did almost the same as the TNT2.

I call everything that has the only purpose to process graphics a GPU.

I love my Delta 60HP 7000 RPM fan that puts out more dB then CFM :eek:

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sirak   07-04-2003 at 07:57:01 PM
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The Voodoo2 was awesome when it first came out. I bought it for... $300 I think, back in mid 98. It was the first time I really experienced 3d acceleration and it was great. It had some staying power too.

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eden   07-05-2003 at 04:10:31 AM
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Could be due to real programmable T&L. (calling it the GPU, the GF1)

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svol   07-05-2003 at 12:10:09 PM
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But the TNT and TNT2 already had (partly) programmable T&L.

And Voodoo3 and higher cards sertaintly did almost all graphics processing... wouldn't you call those GPUs too. Or you don't do that because nVidia says... bla bla bla?

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eden   07-06-2003 at 02:09:08 AM
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I dunno, I honestly don't lol!
Wish there were a more technical guy who remembered the history of the geForce1, we might perhaps know more.

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svol   07-06-2003 at 04:41:48 PM
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Just ignore what companies say and use the term purely technical.

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eden   07-07-2003 at 02:26:04 AM
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Which would then be "hardware accelerator". :wink:

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lhgpoobaa   07-07-2003 at 02:30:26 AM
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I have to say despite a few niggly glitches my R9700Pro is fast becomming a favorite... just cauz of the sheer mind numbing speed on tap with the eyecandy cranked up high!

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zpyrd   07-07-2003 at 08:51:53 AM
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What kind of glitches are/have you experienced with your 9700Pro?

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lhgpoobaa   07-07-2003 at 01:49:09 PM
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A very unique and completely unsolveable freeze.
and i have tried EVERYTHING to fix it.

Here is a brief summary.
While playing 3d games the screen will freeze, requiring a reset to fix it.
However, it ONLY happens in resolutions under 1280x960, and only in full screen mode.
If i run windowed or at 1280x960 i can play games for 8 hours at a time till my eyes bleed!

Ive tried:
running completely stock speeds.
catalysts 2.4 3.1, 3.2, 3.4, 3.5, omega 3.4 and omega 3.5. ONLY the 2.4's will work properly at the lower resolutions. (but cauz they are so old its not worth it)
DX 8 & 9 versions
Fresh winXP install, only XP, SP1, video drivers and via chipset drivers installed
Multiple chipset driver versions.
Tweaked ALL my bios AGP settings
Tweaked ALL the eyecandy settings ON/OFF.
Run using plug and pray monitor and also specific viewsonic INF files.

Its the only bug ive been unable to solve.
VERY VERY strange.
Plus its very repeatable.
I have a Serious sam savegame where if i walk forward 10m it will crash, same place every time.
but its completely fine at 1280x960, 1280x1024 or 1600x1200.

now hows that for damn wierd.



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eden   07-07-2003 at 06:56:56 PM
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Everything about you Aussies is weird.

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svol   07-07-2003 at 07:14:31 PM
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You mean an addon card like the Voodoo2? That would be a card that takes out specific jobs of the original GPU... like only 3D calculating.

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eden   07-07-2003 at 07:26:50 PM
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Damn damn damn it, why can't we have them hybrid cards anymore...*sobs*

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svol   07-07-2003 at 08:07:21 PM
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There where hybrid cards?!?

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eden   07-08-2003 at 02:41:52 AM
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LOL, wrong words: Dual chip cards!

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zpyrd   07-08-2003 at 02:48:07 AM
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Maybe it's just a problem with the game. Have you checked to see if the game has a patch release?

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lhgpoobaa   07-08-2003 at 04:19:01 AM
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yes. patched and unpatched.
It also occurs in freelancer, though i dont have a savegame specific crash spot... but rest assured within 20 minutes of flying around it WILL crash with exactly the same symptoms.

It occurs equally with direct3d and openGL too mind.

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svol   07-08-2003 at 07:21:11 PM
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Those exist?!?

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eden   07-09-2003 at 03:20:23 AM
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Weren't you the one who said the Voodoo 2 can be connected to another V2?

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svol   07-09-2003 at 07:31:45 PM
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No... but I do know it is possible. You can interlink two Voodoo2s (expensive though) and then connect them to the primary (2D) videocard. But I don't think anyone actyually combined the Voodoo2 chip and a regular 2D chip on the same PCB.

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Zoron   07-09-2003 at 10:18:13 PM
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It was called the Voodoo Banshee.

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svol   07-11-2003 at 06:43:08 PM
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Yes, but that whas a single chip solution... not two chips on one PCB.

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