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Hi all! :hello:

am upgrading my rig below (in sig) to the new rig writen under this.

4G Kit(2x2G) DDR3 1333
GA-EX58-UD4P
Core i7 940
HD 4870 x2
850w tough power psu (thermaltake)
thermal take speedo case. (the advanced package, forgot what model number :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: )

what do you think? any good? :??:

am planning to over clock so i will buy a good cooler for the cpu. does a cooler for a 45nm (eg e8500) fit the i7? just bought one for my old rig and dont want to have to buy a new one :kaola:

any changes would be good if u could make any.
:p
thank you!

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dont bother with the 940. the best value is in the i7920 which is easily overclockable anywhere from 3.2-4ghz.

secondly i would also swap that psu for something like the 550w/650w corsair unless you are planning to go down the crossfire route in the future

and finally you will find your cooler wont fit, however you can by converters to make other types of coolers fit, but be sure to do plenty of research before hand

------------------------------ i7 920 @ 3.6ghz | 6gb OCZ RAM | P6T | XFX GTX 275
Reply to godfath3r
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940 is not worth price premium over 920
core i7 uses triple memory controller meaning you need to use 3 sticks

you can use 3x1g= 3gigs 3x2g= 6gigs and so

Reply to alvine
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Double check the voltage on the memory...I7 needs 1.5 volts or less otherwise you will fry your CPU (memory controller is on the CPU). Some of the older 2x2GB DDR3 kits have higher voltages as they were intended for socket 775 systems.

+1 for the 920
+1 for Corsair brand PSU

Reply to 3lvis

alvine wrote :

940 is not worth price premium over 920
core i7 uses triple memory controller meaning you need to use 3 sticks

you can use 3x1g= 3gigs 3x2g= 6gigs and so


i7 runs dual channel just fine, same as all current memory controllers can do single channel.

Reply to randomizer
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3lvis wrote :

Double check the voltage on the memory...I7 needs 1.5 volts or less otherwise you will fry your CPU (memory controller is on the CPU). Some of the older 2x2GB DDR3 kits have higher voltages as they were intended for socket 775 systems.


Core i7 needs 1.65 or less on the memory not 1.5.

I would agree with everyone on getting the Core i7 920 over the i7 940. Also, Intel is not going to be carrying the i7 940 anymore, along with the i7 965ee. They are being replaced by the i7 950 and i7 975ee. The only one still moving forward is the i7 920.

Thermaltake makes good PSU but I would stick with either the Corsair 850 or the PC P&C 910 Silencer. I'm a believer if... I'm going to build a computer... build for future growth since you know you have the money now. So if down the road you want Crossfire, you don't have to upgrade your PSU, along with adding a 2nd card.

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Reply to tecmo34
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heroofspirits wrote :

does a cooler for a 45nm (eg e8500) fit the i7? just bought one for my old rig and dont want to have to buy a new one

What cooler did you buy? E8500 is socket 775 and Core i7 is socket 1366. You might be able to get a socket 1366 adapter for your cooler.


Reply to WR2

^ well if it doesn't fit he might be able to lower the voltage if he gets a D0 on the stock cooler and then it would probably run in the low 60C's.

Reply to Helloworld_98

WR2 wrote :

What cooler did you buy? E8500 is socket 775 and Core i7 is socket 1366. You might be able to get a socket 1366 adapter for your cooler.


I bought a typhoone vx thermaltake cooler. it should be in my signature.

Reply to heroofspirits

Helloworld_98 wrote :

^ well if it doesn't fit he might be able to lower the voltage if he gets a D0 on the stock cooler and then it would probably run in the low 60C's.


ill pass on that ;)

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Reply to heroofspirits

godfath3r wrote :

dont bother with the 940. the best value is in the i7920 which is easily overclockable anywhere from 3.2-4ghz.

secondly i would also swap that psu for something like the 550w/650w corsair unless you are planning to go down the crossfire route in the future

and finally you will find your cooler wont fit, however you can by converters to make other types of coolers fit, but be sure to do plenty of research before hand


more than likely sli. nvidia is sounding good
will stick with my psu

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Message edited by heroofspirits on 05-25-2009 at 01:36:17 AM
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Reply to heroofspirits

heroofspirits wrote :

more than likely sli. nvidia is sounding good
will stick with my psu


Are you going to sell the 4870x2? Then buy 2 GTX 275/85's? That would probably be the cheapest for the price/performance ratio.
And go with a 920. The 940 has a higher stock clock, but the new DO's make it almost obsolete (thus the 950's and the 975's arriving soon).

Reply to radiowars
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You'll need a ThermalTake LGA1366 Upg Kit for BigTyp120 VX - part number A100070 to run your Big Typhoon VX on a socket 1366 MB

Reply to WR2

WR2 wrote :

You'll need a ThermalTake LGA1366 Upg Kit for BigTyp120 VX - part number A100070 to run your Big Typhoon VX on a socket 1366 MB


:D :D :D Thanks will look in to it

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Reply to heroofspirits

radiowars wrote :

Are you going to sell the 4870x2? Then buy 2 GTX 275/85's? That would probably be the cheapest for the price/performance ratio.
And go with a 920. The 940 has a higher stock clock, but the new DO's make it almost obsolete (thus the 950's and the 975's arriving soon).


950!?!? I like... so what does it run on the older boards (meaning x58 :p )
will keep hd4870x2 for a while. untill a x2 comes out for nvidia 300 series. (thinking ahead i know ;) )

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> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

tbh from ur e8500 to i7 is stupid because u arent gonna get faster gaming and u could save money for later this year.

Reply to rescawen

rescawen wrote :

tbh from ur e8500 to i7 is stupid because u arent gonna get faster gaming and u could save money for later this year.


what does tbh meen any way... :??: Why "latter this year"? please explain... :sarcastic:

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> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

@rescawen, actually he will, the i7 950 runs at 3.06ghz with a higher IPC than the e8500 @ 3.16ghz. and the 100mhz won't make much of a difference since there is around 0.5 IPC more on the i7 than on the 45nm core 2's.

Also you have quadruple the threads so it is considerably more future resistant.

Reply to Helloworld_98

randomizer wrote :

TBH = To be honest.


so that what that means... :D every time someone wrote that i thought they were attempting to call me an idiot! :pt1cable: :pt1cable:

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Reply to heroofspirits

I must remember to not read threads where the OP uses only capital letters in the title

Reply to Outlander_04

Outlander_04 wrote :

I must remember to not read threads where the OP uses only capital letters in the title


how come, disapointing is it? :sarcastic:

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> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

just get the 920... so much cheaper, and can still OC to around the same (tho not quite as much as liquid cooled Extreme 965)

------------------------------ MICK
Reply to micky_lund

micky_lund wrote :

just get the 920... so much cheaper, and can still OC to around the same (tho not quite as much as liquid cooled Extreme 965)


thrue yeah ill stick with the 920. will get the newest coming out the 0c i think it is... think the old is 0D

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Reply to heroofspirits

^ the old one is the C0, the new one is the D0 which runs a lower temp.

Reply to Helloworld_98

thanks for that, knew it was something to do with that

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Reply to heroofspirits

heroofspirits wrote :

thanks for that, knew it was something to do with that


Since you were planing on buying a 940 in the first place, just get the i7 920 from tankguys (here--->http://www.tankguys.com/intel-core-i7-920-d0.html)
It's a bit more expensive, but the results will be a higher OC, less power consumption, and less heat.
Lol, or you could try your luck with an i7 920 from Newegg. It's about a 50-50 chance now.

Reply to radiowars

^ it's probably a 95/5 chance at newegg.

Reply to Helloworld_98

im a adelaide guy so no new egg for me. i probably go to my comp store, eagle. cheap reliable and they actually know what a computer is ;)

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> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

Helloworld_98 wrote :

^ it's probably a 95/5 chance at newegg.


Really? I thought D0s were more popular now? I heard by June they would completely replace the C0s entirely? Crap. I'm looking to buy one soon :O

Reply to radiowars

eagle what? i live in aus, so i need cheap internet sites with low post for parts... what is it called heroofspirits?

------------------------------ MICK
Reply to micky_lund

so whats better for high level OC? C0 batch, or D0 ???

------------------------------ MICK
Reply to micky_lund

micky_lund wrote :

eagle what? i live in aus, so i need cheap internet sites with low post for parts... what is it called heroofspirits?


oh its in adelaide. corner of grange and critiden rd. its called eagle computers. look it up on the net. just dont look at pricing list. has not been updated for a while... :p

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Australian internet at its best...
Core i7 920 @ 3.76 ghz > Thermalright u120 > Thermaltake 850w psu > Hd 5870 + 5870 vapor x
> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

micky_lund wrote :

so whats better for high level OC? C0 batch, or D0 ???


D0 lower temps apparently :)

------------------------------ http://www.speedtest.net/result/603075842.png
Australian internet at its best...
Core i7 920 @ 3.76 ghz > Thermalright u120 > Thermaltake 850w psu > Hd 5870 + 5870 vapor x
> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

well that sucks... im in middle qld, and i just want cheap internet prices w/ good postage prices

------------------------------ MICK
Reply to micky_lund

@radiowars, I meant a 95% chance of getting a D0, probably upto 100% by the end of June since I believe it was their aim to get C0's out of the retail cycle by the end of June.

Reply to Helloworld_98

micky_lund wrote :

well that sucks... im in middle qld, and i just want cheap internet prices w/ good postage prices


lololol

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> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

I just heard that in intel core i5 is comming out soon. along with a p55 mobo. might have to get this as it sounds like it could be better then i7

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> DDR3 1600mhz > ex58ud4p
Reply to heroofspirits

heroofspirits wrote :

I just heard that in intel core i5 is comming out soon. along with a p55 mobo. might have to get this as it sounds like it could be better then i7


Late august. If you want to wait.

Reply to radiowars

any performance gains whatsoever (about i7 vs. i5)? and is there many articles? i cant find any :(

------------------------------ MICK
Reply to micky_lund

micky_lund wrote :

any performance gains whatsoever (about i7 vs. i5)? and is there many articles? i cant find any :(


i read this on the main page of tom's: they arnt realising much information. only in late 09 will it come out. said something about not relising any info... :(

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Reply to heroofspirits

hmm... ok then... thanks anyways

Reply to micky_lund
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