Watch your language little boy. This is my opinion and you don't have to agree with it but doesn't give you right to insult. OK?
4890 with some tweaking and OC can surpass even 285 GTX.
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save the money on the modular PSU and just get a standard corsair 650w, put the money you save towards a 4890 and a motherboard made by biostar, gigabyte or asus.
Where did I say that 4870 is not enough?! Show me where!
I even said that is nothing wrong with 4870. But maybe if he has to money he can buy something better. So stop imaging things.
Is nothing wrong with it. He said he want a gaming pc so he should look for something better than 4870 or maybe he can have a crossfire in the future.
You contradict yoruself, you said there is nothing wrong with it, fine. but then you say he should look for something better because he wants a gaming pc or that he will need to crossfire it like other cards will not need this.
That is BS and you could put doubt in his mind needlessly. Why do it, he has selected a perfectly good system, why make comments like get a better card?
Sorry, but you are just making confusing comments and could cause him to spend more money that will not give him gains that the increase in costs may warrant.
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There is no contradiction there. Everybody wants something better all the day. The only problem is how much you want or can spend. Why do you think people buy i7 and not Q9xxx? Because all of them need i7 or just because they can afford them?! Same thing here. If he can buy something better, than he should do it. 4870 is a mid-end graphic card. Usually people buy something better when they want a gaming pc but everything depends on everybody's budget. If you don't want to see my point, it's your problem.
As I said in my previous post, 4890 with OC can surpass 285 GTX.
Also 4890 has a better design, is more efficent at idle and uses just 30W at load than 4870.
So in the end he can spend more money and it will give him many gains.
As I said, this is my opionion and you don't have to agree.
Message edited by hefox on 05-23-2009 at 07:01:09 PM
These are my specs:
AMD Phenom II X4 940 (3.0ghz)
MSI DK790GX
Palit 4870 HD vidcard
Corsair 620w
4gb DDR3 Ram
500gb 7200rpm HDD
Don't listen to people who give advice without knowing what they r talking about, i am seeing people recommending the 4890 as if they know which resolution you will be playing at, the 4870 is more than enough for what you will be doing,unless you plan on playing at resolutions higher than 1900 x 1200 i dont see point in going past the 4870,however i dont see how u plan on adding ddr 3 ram on an am2+ mobo (the 940 is am2+) other than that i would say u r fine
You don't buy a graphic card just for today's games. You buy it for future also. So from what you say, people that buy, let's say, 285 GTX, 295 GTX or 4870 X2 and have 24" or lower monitors, are stupid or what?
Anyway a good point about the DDR3. Your motherboard uses DDR2.
You don't buy a graphic card just for today's games. You buy it for future also. So from what you say, people that buy, let's say, 285 GTX, 295 GTX or 4870 X2 and have 24" or lower monitors, are stupid or what?
Anyway a good point about the DDR3. Your motherboard uses DDR2.
The whole reason why there are many cards is because there are many resolutions for instance at a resolution of 1680x1050 you really cant do better than a 4870 or even a gtx 260 both cards would pretty much max out anything at that rez thus even if u pop in a gtx 285 or a 4890 at that rez would make no difference since the resolution of the game would limit the benefit of the card hence why they are recommended for higher resolutions there would be no point spending so much for a powerful card if u cant see any tangible difference due to lower resolutions thats like buying a ferrari to drive in a 35 mile zone,its not about future proofing.if he needs to future proof he can always get a second card later on in cross fire or simple buy something different then
As I said all the games are fine now (at high quality, AA and AF max) but I don't think you will be able to play at high quality next year. Even now you can find many games were you get 40-50 fps.
No point in buying cards for the future. Much better to buy something for what you need now, by the time the next-gen games come out, there will be new cards out that put current-gen cards to shame, for the same price.
Why spend $500 now when you can spend $200 now and $200 in a year and get essentially the same thing?
As I said all the games are fine now (at high quality, AA and AF max) but I don't think you will be able to play at high quality next year. Even now you can find many games were you get 40-50 fps.
My two year old 8800GTS 512 can handle most modern titles (except Crysis, which I hardly care for ATM) maxed out easily at 1680x1050. I don't think its safe to make the assumption that he needs a better card without knowing the intended resolution.
if i am to change my motherboard, what do u guys suggest so that i can fill in my ddr3 memory?
you would need to change your cpu first the 940 was designed for the am2+ socket you will not be able to use it with an am 3 mobo regardless of wat you buy,depending on your budget you could go with a 720 BE tri core which is really good for a solid budget gaming system or you could go with 955 be which is expensive,other than that the only other am3 cpu i know of is the 810 which is decent since its a quad core but not all that compared to others and it is not a black edition processor either so if you plan on going am 3 your best bets are either the 720 black edition or the 955, as far as mobos newegg has a decent selection of am 3 choices,asus,asrock,msi and gigabyte have some good products based on the 790 chipset and any of those should be able to satisfy your needs even at lower prices
and whats so bad about 4870 anyways? its good at most res up to about 1920x1200... not over-the-top-benchmark-crazy, but if gives good/great fps, and is cheap? who can argue with that???
I understand everyone's sentiments, however, I will still gonna pursue my original specs except for some changes
Processor: AMD Phenom II 940 3.0ghz
Motherboard:
Video Card: Palit HD 4870 PCS+ 1gb/256bit ddr5
HDD: 500gb 7200rpm SATA2
PSU: Corsair 620w
RAM: 4gb ddr2 1066
Now, i need to find some good motherboard for my new pc nextweek. Please suggest some. Thanks. Everyone's replies are appreciated.
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