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May 25, 2009 1:39:46 AM

My question is would this system work together and is it the best system for the money?

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD-22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB- 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ECS BLACK SERIES GF8200A- 79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB- 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W -59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800- 46.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler- 31.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor- 119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit- 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for help and is this good system for price my email is ajb415@gmail.com if anyone wants to send some tips.



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May 25, 2009 4:30:03 AM

Jsc do thes parts work well together?
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May 25, 2009 1:18:16 PM

Is my motherboard ok or should i go with a better known brand?
May 25, 2009 5:03:24 PM

anyone wanna give some input?
May 25, 2009 6:56:52 PM

ECS is a terrible brand. Their boards are the cheapest of the worst, or worst of the cheapest.

Grab something like a Gigabyte or ASUS.

Spend the extra bit of money and get the 720 processor. You appear to want to overclock, and it will be much easier with the 720. You may also want a better cooler, something like a Xigmatek Dark Knight is still cheap and is very good.

I'm not a fan of buying older video cards, I'd go with a GTS250/9800GTX+, HD4770 or HD4850.
May 25, 2009 7:31:35 PM

I have looked at some of your components, and I can see several upgrades that you should use instead of what you have planned. Take a look at my thread. I've done significant research on the best components for the money. Also - what is your budget?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265906-31-please-advi...

Here are some pointed suggestions that I can say directly.

GPU Radeon 4770 is likely to out perform your 8800
RAM Suggest DDR3 RAM, not DDR2 - better performance for not much $$
OS Why 32bit OS? If you are purchasing - get the 64bit!!
HD For $10 you can get a 750GB HD - if you need the space, it isn't much $
CPU Get the X3 720 CPU - it will be Black Edition - therefore you can OC, and also it has a higher base at 2.8 vs 2.6GHz

I'm open to hearing your responses

May 25, 2009 9:08:04 PM

ok my budget is about 600 to 650 dollars and the reason for 32 bit os is becasue i get 20 dollars off and heard some bad stories about drivers for 64 bit
May 25, 2009 9:12:30 PM

i dont really want to overcock just want to keep pc cool lol, also changed motherboard to ASUS M4A78 Plus AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard for about 10 bucks more.
May 26, 2009 2:17:04 AM

anymore input?
May 26, 2009 2:46:06 AM

I'd go for the 64 bit. It's just $20 and you'll thank yourself when you decide to install more than 3GB of RAM. As for drivers, stick to the bigger brands for Video and MB and you should be fine. 64 bit has been around long enough and is gaining enough market share that vendors are paying attention.

Besides, it is basically where things are going, especially since 64 bit software and hardware can theoretically address 1.8 billion GB (1.8 petabytes i think) as opposed to only 4.2 GB with 32 bit addressing.
May 26, 2009 7:41:28 PM

4850s are a little better than 4770s, but consume a little more power and run hotter.
May 26, 2009 9:40:06 PM

so would the case have listed with an extra fan and 550 watt power supply suffice?
May 26, 2009 10:31:00 PM

This build down below allows you to add another 4770 later on for Crossfire if you so choose. This psu is not only modular, but it meets ATI's requirements for the 4770 in Crossfire. This build also allows you to over clock. :) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $58.95 Free Shipping*
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 ($49.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$30.00 Combo Price: $218.99
AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99 Free Shipping*
XIGMATEK HDT-SD964 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.00
SAPPHIRE 100277L Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.99 Free Shipping*
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23.99 Free Shipping*
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

Total: $616.87 | $591.87 w/mail in rebates

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.... <--- Save yourself some money on an o/s and dl the 64 bit version of Windows 7

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4770,2281... <--- 4770 benchmarks

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-4770-crossfi... <--- 4770 Crossfire benchmarks

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?psn=0...
May 26, 2009 11:09:20 PM

That video card is sold out and i was told not to get a gigabyte motherboard and can you explain whole windows 7 thing im a noob i know
May 26, 2009 11:28:52 PM

alexgreat said:
That video card is sold out and i was told not to get a gigabyte motherboard and can you explain whole windows 7 thing im a noob i know


If you don't have an o/s (Windows) then you can dl window 7 on a pc or laptop (you want 64 bit), and then burn it to a disk and use that for your operating system...saving you like $100. As far as Gigabyte boards go, they are a very trusted name. Read the reviews on them....like the ones on newegg. I'm not sure who's giving you advice, but if it's the same person who was talking about drivers for 64 bit then I wouldn't listen to that persons advice. XP 64 bit might have crap drivers, but Vista 64 has excellent drivers and support. Then again anyone still using XP to game with needs their head examined. If your going to game you want a 64 bit o/s to read all of your memory, and of course Vista and Windows 7 support DX10.... DX 11 for Windows 7. So ya it's the year 2009 and this is where it's at if you want to game on a pc these days. XP is cooked and done for, and 32 bit o/s are good for office machines with less than 4 gigs of memory.

http://www.eworldsale.com/sapphire-100277l-radeon-hd-47...

http://www.eworldsale.com/msi-r4770-t2d512-radeon-hd-47...

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?ad=fg&pid=2...
May 26, 2009 11:32:52 PM

ok so how long wont i need an operating system?
May 26, 2009 11:33:37 PM

all link are out of stock
May 26, 2009 11:34:50 PM

alexgreat said:
ok so how long wont i need an operating system?


The beta expires March of 2010...after that you have the option to pay for it, or let it expire. So ya, your getting a free o/s until then.
May 27, 2009 2:45:39 AM

Im going to order my computer parts tomorrow so i have taking your guys advice and got a Asus motherboard and a better hd (specs below), My final question is i am in my price range but with the 2.6 triple core cpu and a 8800GTS 525 MB video card if i am to upgrade one what should it be and why?

ASUS M4A78 Plus AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
May 27, 2009 8:03:41 PM

is the beta have many glitches or what?
May 27, 2009 8:33:53 PM

no i'd say its pretty stable. i have a similar build to yours except i have a gigabyte motherboard. excellent motherboard might i add, never given me any problems. i have the 8800gts but the 320MB version and i have an intel core 2 duo e6550. windows 7 (64 bit) runs well and i have not had any driver/stability problems since i installed it a while ago. im still able to play all my games and i've not had one issue with the OS so far. i would say go with the OS until march 2010.
May 29, 2009 5:39:59 PM

^ that one isn't, and the only praise I see on MSI motherboards anyway is on the X58M so it's best to stay away from MSI.
May 29, 2009 6:13:47 PM

ok, so i would be good with this one and any other people wanna give input on why or why not this motherboard is good
August 1, 2009 8:01:13 AM

I originally bought a ASUS M4A78 Plus motherboard and it was no good. After terrible customer service from both the vendor and ASUS, I returned the board and bought myself a ECS GF8200A Black Series which is working wonderfully for me.
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