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May 25, 2009 7:40:53 PM

gaming computer. wife will use it. i posted numerous threads trying to get ideas for the best system, i have taken the suggestions gained into consideration and i am now ready. i will purchase these parts june 1st(unless of course i get better suggestions and have to change everything).


mobo: asus p6t deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

processor: core i7 920 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


psu: corsair 850 tx 850w http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ram: corsair xms3 6 gb ddr3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


cpu fan: noctua nh-u12p http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


videoo card: zotac gtx 295 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

operating system: windows vista 64 bit. hard drive: WD 640 GB 7200 RPM http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

case: coolermaster centurion 590 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total price with tool kit, wireless card, thermal compound, extra 120 mm case fan, and monitor after shipping is 2006 dollars.

i was originally going to buy two gtx 260s for 350, but in previous posts i was directed to buy a better video card to ensure better longevity with my system. the two gtx 260s will perform close to a gtx 295, from what i understand, and the 150 dollars i would save is enticing, however, 1 1/2 years from now i will need to upgrade, and im sure putting a second 295 in the system will be sufficient. however, im an amateur and this is my first build so i dont really know what im talking about to be honest.

the only questions/concerns i have are - will the gtx 295 fit in that case, i have read a review where somebody had three gtx 280s in there. also, should i save the 150 dollars, get the 2 260s, and buy a newer gtx 300 series card in about a year from now(i hear they are getting released by beggining of 2010).

May 25, 2009 7:59:42 PM

To start, your PSU is in the wrong range. If you want to just sick with one GTX 295 then downgrade to a 750w PSU and save some money there --

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you're looking to keep the option for another 295 open, you're going to have to upgrade to a 1000w PSU --

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Since you lose the combo either way, I would check this set of RAM out which sports faster timings and is a better set overall in my opinion --

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you live near a microcenter, they might still be running a deal on the i7 920s

Everything should fit into that case as far as I know, but I don't see any dimensions on newegg, so I would suggest researching it further.


As far as equivalents for the 295, two 275s running in SLI is the closest you can get...for less money that a single 295:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May 25, 2009 8:02:54 PM

Get 2 GTX 275's in SLI. That PSU can handle it, and it's cheaper, and it performs better. Also get Windows 7. It's free, and pretty stable. Plus, when the retail version is released, you'll have no problem upgrading it. Everything else is fine, except that case is kinda cheap.
Go with either an Antec 1200, or an Antec 902 or a HAF 932/22. All are excellent cases, and worth the extra 60-100$. (save money w/ GPUs and OS you'll be set).
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May 25, 2009 8:03:48 PM

foolycooly said:
To start, your PSU is in the wrong range. If you want to just sick with one GTX 295 then downgrade to a 750w PSU and save some money there --

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you're looking to keep the option for another 295 open, you're going to have to upgrade to a 1000w PSU --

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Since you lose the combo either way, I would check this set of RAM out which sports faster timings and is a better set overall in my opinion --

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you live near a microcenter, they might still be running a deal on the i7 920s

Everything should fit into that case as far as I know, but I don't see any dimensions on newegg, so I would suggest researching it further.


As far as equivalents for the 295, two 275s running in SLI is the closest you can get...for less money that a single 295:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Congrats on your 499 post XD
May 25, 2009 8:13:55 PM

What's your wifes monitor's resolution ?
May 25, 2009 8:22:18 PM

What type of games does your wife play? Does she need Crysis Maxed out on all high on a 1900x1200 monitor?
May 26, 2009 5:44:46 AM

ok, sorry, it is not for my wife, its for me, primarily for gaming. i meant to type that my wife will use it for whatever she needs to get done on the internet or whatever. but i am using a 1900 x 1200 monitor.

i dont feel comfortable using windows 7 rc as my primary operating system. i hear alot of good things about the rc, but im not sure if its a good idea. i will get windows 7 64 bit when it ofificially drops, but i dont even know how i would get the rc on the new build.

i decided to downgrade to two msi gtx 260s in sli which was my very first choice. 2 260s in sli, from what i understand, crush most games out there on 1900x1200 with high settings and aa and af on. correct me if im wrong. so i figure i will spend 350 on that setup, and maybe if i need to, i will buy a gtx 300 series somewhere down the road. i hope that my gtx 260s will last a long time. i made the downgrade because i fell in love with the antec 1200 and foolcooly got me set on purchasing a thousand watt psu. i figure the psu will eventually be needed a couple years from now if i plan on playing games with high end video cards.

i did use two gtx 275s with his build, but my price came out to 2060. so unless i can figure out a way to shave off some dough, the extra 130 dollars doesnt seem worth the perfomance gained form those two cards.

here is my new build with the suggestions made on this post and other posts. i have made numerous posts requesting help on my upcoming purchase.
im including everything im buying on this list. oh, and, do you think i should purchase a sound card or no?




HannsĀ·G HG-281DPB Black 27.5" 3ms Widescreen HDMI LCD Monitor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$329.99
. .
Rosewill RNX-N300 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Wireless-N 2.0 PCI (1T2R) Up to 150Mbps Data Rates/ WPA/WPA2 (AES, 64,128-WEP with shared-key ... - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$24.99
. .
MSI N260GTX-T2D896-OCv4 GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate $349.98
($174.99each)
. .
Saitek PZ30AU Black USB Standard Eclipse Keyboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$49.99
. .
Rosewill RM-8500 5 Buttons USB 2.4GHz Wireless Laser Mouse w/ Nano Receiver - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$29.99
. .
Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Premium Computer Tool Kit - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$19.99
. .
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$94.99
. .
Scythe DFS123812-3000 "ULTRA KAZE" 120 x 38 mm Case Fan - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
11.99
. .
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
&
Rosewill RBR1000-M 1000W, ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V, SLI Ready, Active-PFC, 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified, Modular Power Supply, UL,CUL,FCC,CB,TUV,ROHS - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
-$75.00 Instant
-$40.00 Combo
$414.98
$259.99
. .
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
&
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
-$19.00 Instant
-$25.00 Combo
$578.98
$534.98
. .
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
&
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
154.98

total after shipping $1930.49

k, 6 days until purchase is made.



May 26, 2009 5:57:21 AM

Not only is 1000w like super major over kill, that Rosewill psu is good for a boat anchor or door stop, but you don't want it pushing your rig. Here's a few price savers for you without taking away from performance or quality parts that fit's your needs.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product... $99.99 | $69.99 after MIR Free Shipping
PC Power and Cooling S75QB Silencer 750W Quad Power Supply (Black) Retail

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-EX58U4P $219.99 | -$20 w/promo code = $199.99 | $184.99. after rebate Free Ground Shipping
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P Core i7/ Intel X58/ DDR3/ CorssFireX & 3-Way SLI/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard
Use Code: MEMORIAL20 to get an extra $20 off

https://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/product.php?pro..." $ 278.00
Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz LGA 1366 Socket 8MB Cache CPU D0 Stepping

or...

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=I7-920 $264.99 Free Ground Shipping
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920 2.66GHz 8MB LGA1366 CPU, OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $41.99 Free Shipping*
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $89.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <--- more pics, specs, and customer reviews of that Gigabyte UD4P mobo
May 26, 2009 6:16:21 AM

^ Never club high quality components with low quality PSU...
The Rosewill PSUs might be sufficient for a basic system but no one would recommned them for your config...
If you want a very good case, that wont cost that much, then the CM 690 is a very good choice...
It is as big as the Antec 900 and has very good airflow...So you can easily save about $75 there...
And as for the mobo, you can take a look at the Gigabyte UD4P or the P6T...
Both offer good features and are cheaper alternatives for the Deluxe...So you can stick with those mobos without loosing out on performance...and you can invest in the GTX 275...
But if you are not dead stuck on the GTX 275, you can get the HD 4890s, which offer similar performance and are about $40 less including rebates...
So here goes...

CPU + Graphics
(HD 4890)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
or GTX 275
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

+1 more graphics card - In SLI/ Crossfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo + RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

HDD + OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Case - CM 690
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair 750TX - Sufficient even for GTX 285 SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LCD, fans,... - Same

Total - $1917 including all the peripherals(Included only 2 fans)without rebates
May 26, 2009 6:27:04 AM

Why_Me second time late...haha... :lol: 
I guess you dint want to overdo :p 
And I had missed the CPU Cooler - +1 for Xig Dark Knight given by Why_Me...
May 26, 2009 6:32:33 AM

gkay09 said:
Why_Me second time late...haha... :lol: 
I guess you dint want to overdo :p 
And I had missed the CPU Cooler - +1 for Xig Dark Knight given by Why_Me...


+1 for the CM 690

...and I know how you feel. xthekidx usually beats me by a minute if not seconds when I end up posting close to the same thing he post.
May 26, 2009 5:41:53 PM

i understand the 1000 watt is overkill for the current build, but wouldn't it be the right thing to purchase if i know that somewhere along the line im going to upgrade my video cards to a more powerful setup? is it not a safe play to buy a 1000 wat now, so i dont have to purchase a 1000 watt in the future and rewire the entire system?


"that Rosewill psu is good for a boat anchor or door stop, but you don't want it pushing your rig"
alright, ill take your word for it. :lol: 


ill post the specs for my updated build in about an hour from the time this post was made, if not, earlier.

what the heck is stepping?
May 26, 2009 10:28:30 PM

stepping refers to the 'generation' of processors essentially. C0 is the first stepping for the i7 series...they just recently released the D0 stepping which is said to run cooler and be a better overclocker.

When I recommended the 1000w corsair PSU it was only for if you planned on getting two GTX 295s in quad SLI. If you're going with two 260s, then a 750w quality model should be plenty.
May 26, 2009 11:38:47 PM

im just going to list the changes, if its not listed, its the same as above

case: antec 900 two
http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=CA-900TWO
109.99

mobo + cpu combo: core i7 920; gigabyte ga ex58 ud4p
http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=MB-EX58U4P
494.00

cpu cooler: xigmatec dark knight
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
41.99

ram: ocz platinum 1600 6gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

thermal compound: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu: corsair 750 txz 750 w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total after shipping, before video cards 1443.80

its your call gentleman.

2 of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
bringing my total price to 2013.70

or

2 of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
bringing my total price to 1937.70

or
2 of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1793.70

i forgot to mention these totals exclude the keyboard and mouse i have listed above, if worse comes to worse, or i decide to choose the 275 setup, then i will by a 25 dollar keyboard mouse setup instead of paying 80 dollars for keyboard and mouse.

i really appreciate everyone leading me in the right direction. i know i will build a more efficient build and i have become moe knowledgeable because of it.

May 26, 2009 11:52:48 PM

That gtx 275 in your post better be dipped in platinum for that kind of price. :ouch: 

Give these ones down below a look. All are great cards, and they aren't a hose job. It takes like all of a few min. to dl a freebie proggy like "riva tuner" and o/c your vid card. In fact some of these down below are factory over clocked.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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