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August 31, 2009 3:19:02 PM

I'm looking for bling and reliability.....

IKONIK Vulcan 1200W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
JohnnyGuru score = 9

XION AXP Lan-Party Edition AXP-1000R14HE 1000W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-1000MA1S 1000W ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill BRONZE series RBR1000-M 1000W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Anyone know of any others?
Any comments on these?

I will be running SLI EVGA GTX 208's
and geeting anew 24" high res diplay in the near future.

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August 31, 2009 3:52:26 PM

Do you really need blue LED's?
The only good PSU there is the Ikonik, and it's serious overkill.

Get a Corsair 750 or 850 watt.
a c 248 ) Power supply
August 31, 2009 3:55:55 PM

Hmmm....I don't know about bling and reliability. The high quality power supplies that are usually recommended in this section of the forum don't come with bling. I strongly suggest you concentrate on quality, stability, and reliability when looking for a power supply. Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, and Seasonic are brands that have a reputation for high quality. The consistently earn high marks in technical reviews.

If you are going to be running only two GTX 280 graphic cards in dual mode, then a high quality 700 to 750 watt power supply with sufficient current (amps) on the 12 volt rail(s) can easily handle your system. No need to purchase an expensive 1,000 watt power supply.
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August 31, 2009 4:16:14 PM

i would go for the corsair as well, though i suppose you could always try to put LED's into the corsair PSU, though i wouldn't recommend voiding that wonderful 5 year warranty
August 31, 2009 4:35:35 PM

If you want bling, you could always get this.
August 31, 2009 4:49:03 PM

RIP IT OPEN! REPLACE WITH YOUR OWN FAN! You can have any blings to your liking, of course the warranty would be dead that is.
a b ) Power supply
August 31, 2009 4:58:26 PM

Please don't recommend people to open their PSU without some SERIOUS warnings! A PSU can still give you a huge shock days after being disconnected from the mains and it's more than just your warranty that's in danger.
August 31, 2009 5:51:16 PM

Thanks all this is the one I will be getting:

KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-1000MA1S 1000W ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817121037

It has 55 great review on NewEgg and JonnyGuru gave it 8.

Performance (40% of the final score) - the Mach 1 at one kilowatt does a number of things to impress. First, it held 80 Plus Bronze without too much trouble. Second, it exhibited outstanding voltage stability. Third, it was well above average in the overshoot transient testing. But, the grim specter of the ripple demon reared its ugly head and called itself Zuul, for the unit was only barely in spec by test five and levitated itself out of spec in both crossload tests. As such, I'm only feeling the urge for an 8 here.

Functionality (20% of the final score) - Kingwin tried to stand out from the crowd a little here, going with some different connectors on the modular panel than most modular units use. As such, I have to say these connectors do look cool. Unfortunately they carry the double whammy of sticking out well past the end of the power supply and also by raising questions that they're any better than the Mini-Fit Juniors that most companies use. Add in the fact that one wire at the ATX connector was too short in relation to its neighbors, and I'm dropping this category down to 8 as well.

Value (30% of the final score) - over at Mwave, this unit is going for $178.95. That's actually not too bad, because it's the cheapest 1kW they have right now. Even so, the PC Power and Cooling Silencer 910W is about a dollar ninety-five cheaper, and the Antec True Power Quattro 1kW comes in at $194. Granted, this unit is more powerful than either of those at 12V, but let's be honest... how much of that extra power is worth pushing the ATX spec for ripple, anyway? 7.

Aesthetics (10% of the final score) - it would look better to me without that fan graph sticker. Still, those lit connector rings are kind of cool. 8.

Performance
8

Functionality
8

Value
7

Aesthetics
8

Total Score 8

Summary

The Mach 1 does several things very well. It has the voltage regulation, the efficiency, and the power to be a good contender in the marketplace. It's just too bad that the ripple bug had to come up and cut the legs off the poor thing. All the same, you could do worse than this unit. No recommendation this time, but I'm hoping Kingwin can get the ripple tamed for the next one. This platform's capable of a lot, and I want to see it happen.

The Good:

efficient
above average overshoot transient performance
PCI-E connectors get 70A if needed
The Bad:

bling factor is a bit over the top
The Mediocre:

ripple issues
a c 248 ) Power supply
August 31, 2009 6:47:32 PM

Mark_K - I am curious. Why do you want a 1,000 watt power supply? Why do you think you need it?
a b ) Power supply
August 31, 2009 7:53:28 PM

^+1. Unless going QuadFire/Tri SLI you DO NOT need 1kW!
a c 248 ) Power supply
August 31, 2009 8:02:29 PM

FOR THE RECORD - I predict more powerful, energy efficient cpu's and gpu's that use less power will make their appearance next year. We've already started to see some of that happening. I just read an article about 32nm technology. Intel, AMD, and other manufacturers are ramping up fairly quickly. There is a race to see who can bring it to market first. Should be interesting.
August 31, 2009 9:33:19 PM

JohnnyLucky said:
Mark_K - I am curious. Why do you want a 1,000 watt power supply? Why do you think you need it?



I have a 750w PSU but it will not support SLI Geforce GTX video cards

I bought it less than 6 months ago and I am grwoingvout of it.

I currently OC my CPU
I want to OC my GPU's

I want to SLI GTX 280s
get a new 24" screen with the highest resolution.

I want to buy for the future as new cards will be coming out within the next 8 months.

I am hoping that a 1000w PSU will at least last for the next 4years as technology changes.

Thanks Mark
a b ) Power supply
August 31, 2009 9:34:27 PM

Are you kidding me?!?! A Corsair 750TX can handle 2xGTX280.
August 31, 2009 9:43:20 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Are you kidding me?!?! A Corsair 750TX can handle 2xGTX280.



I see that however, my current SiverStone 750 does not support more than one Geforce GTX 8xx.
This was a rookey mistake....i'm learning thanks to all of you.

So if I'm going to buy a new PSU why not spend the extra $50.00 and get this?:

KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-1000MA1S 1000W

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 1, 2009 1:41:36 AM

1. A computer system with an Intel cpu overclocked to 4.0Mhz and two GTX 280's operating in SLI mode drew a grand total of about 508 watts at the wall outlet at load during benchmark testing. That's the total wattage of the entire system.

2. The GTX 280's are last year's technology. Future video cards will become more energy efficient. The big players have jumped on the green bandwagon.

3. We had a previous thread with numerous links to technical reviews and updates about the GTX 280. You might want to check them out:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/251676-33-reviews-ben...

Warning - be prepared to spend some time reading the technical reviews and updates.

September 1, 2009 1:51:23 AM

mark_k said:
I see that however, my current SiverStone 750 does not support more than one Geforce GTX 8xx.
This was a rookey mistake....i'm learning thanks to all of you.

So if I'm going to buy a new PSU why not spend the extra $50.00 and get this?:

KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-1000MA1S 1000W

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Are you saying you don't have the right power connectors?

Just get some 6 to 8 pin adapters.
September 1, 2009 2:03:43 AM

I would not go with the kingwin giving the Ripple issues on the model they tested.

Rosewills RX 950 test better then the Kingwin with no real out of spec ripple issues, and it has two 80 mm fans with blue leds.

If you want a very good PSU go with the Corsair 750 or the 1000 watt model, you can always add some 4" blue lights around it or near it and still get the lighting your after.
September 1, 2009 2:08:59 AM

This guy is asking about 1000W power supplies with blue leds. It's obvious he cares more about e-peen than a good quality psu that will power what he needs.
September 1, 2009 2:09:31 AM

>_>

He really doesn't need a new PSU. His current one should work fine with some adapters.
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 1, 2009 2:27:32 AM

ragsters - very nice. That's one of the newer Antec models. I can't keep up with all the new components.

orangegator & ShtBrix (funny handle) - Yeah!

Personally I prefer a classic all black exterior and interior. It's sooooo sexy!
September 1, 2009 11:05:04 AM

ShtBrix said:
Are you saying you don't have the right power connectors?

Just get some 6 to 8 pin adapters.


No im saying the unit can not handel 2 cards. Each card needs 3 6 pin connectors one connector for the 6 pin and two 6 pin cables with an adaptor to make the 8 pin. the unit only has a total of 4 x 6 pin PCIE cable connections.

I would need 6x6 pin to make it work on my current PSU with two adapters.

Here is my current PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

JonnyLucky, orangegator & ShtBrix,

Tell me how I can connect 2x Geforce GTX 280's to this PSU and my problem will be solved.
September 1, 2009 11:17:13 AM

ragsters said:
Here this is perfect for your needs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I saw this one already but I already have a 750w PSU all though I cant see how to configure it with two GTX 28x cards. see my other detailed post.

So I though I would by a pus with a little more head room so I can go tri sli when I get a beeter biger monitor.
September 1, 2009 12:28:18 PM




Wow,

I didnt even know these existed.

Thanks you just solved my issue.

And I [m sorry you other guys if this is what you all were talking about.
Thanks so musch for your help!

PS anyone know how this works? How can it convert 6 wires into 8?
In the PSU I would think that all the wires (8 in the cable) have to map back to 8 in the PSU (were there are only 6).
September 1, 2009 4:16:41 PM

My Rosewill Rx-750 and 950 watt come with these cables and yes I think that is what they were trying to tell you, that you could use these type of cables and work with your PSU for much less then a getting a new PSU
September 1, 2009 5:33:45 PM

I found this reply on SLIZone:

NEVER a good idea to use the adapters, if your PSU does not have the required connections, chances are thats for a reason. If you use adapters you have to be VERY careful what else you have connected up on that strand, Ideally the strand should be empty other than the adapters.

The adapters should only be thought of as an extremely temporary situation.

Your PSU is your rig's life blood, every part in your rig is directly affected by the amount and quality of power your PSU puts out. If your GPU's draw more power than your PSU can handle you risk the following:

Freezing, Random Restarts, shortened lifespan of components and in severe cases overload, damage to parts and I even seen fires start due to an overworked PSU.

I see this ALL the time, people have no problem shelling out loads of dough for GPU's but then when it comes to powering them people hope to scrape by with the PSU they have. Don't fall victim to this, it's like buying a Ferrari and hoping it will run off a 9v battery.

You may need a new PSU for the correct amount of 12v current and connections, but NEVER underestimate the PSU's importance..
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 1, 2009 5:45:01 PM

Mark-K - Hate to tell you this but most modern video cards usually come with an adapter cable just in case. The manufacturers would not include them if they weren't okay. You should see all the extra's that came with my brand new card.
September 1, 2009 5:46:40 PM

I am sure that advice can be true, however figure you power load, if your PSU can put out that much and Isn't close to running 100% all the time, then I would say it is safe to use them.
September 1, 2009 7:54:42 PM

You need to look at the AMPs that are avaiable on each rail.

Just having a spliter doesnt mean its going to work.
September 1, 2009 7:58:41 PM

True, but a 750 has vastly more power available than is required for a pair of GTX 280s. I honestly wouldn't worry about it, and a 1kw certainly isn't required.
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 1, 2009 8:48:46 PM

Mark_K - Take a look at my first post. I did mention sufficient current (amps) on the 12 volt rail(s). Not a problem for high quality 750 watt power supplies.
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 1, 2009 9:55:22 PM

Hmmm..... wait a minute! A total of three power cable connections for a single 280 video card? That doesn't sound right! Don't 280 video cards only require two power connections? One is a 2x3 (6 pin) connection and one is a 2x4 (8 pin) connection.
September 1, 2009 10:36:35 PM

currently I have one 280 using three 6 pin connectors.
One 6 pin from pus to the 6 pin on the VC.
the other 2 6 pin from psu ar connected to a 8pin converter that goes to the 8 pin on the VC.
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 1, 2009 10:47:14 PM

AHA! Now I understand what you did. Just use the 6 pin to 8 pin adapter DellUser1 recommended. I know for sure it works with the HD Radeon 4890 cards which also require one 2x3 (6 pin) connector and one 2x4 (8 pin) connector.

Here's the magic question: Does your current power supply have four of those 6 pin PCIe connections?
September 2, 2009 12:05:19 AM

Yes he has 4x 6pin which means best case is he can hook up two and run them in SLI
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 2, 2009 2:13:00 AM

medjohson77 - That solves that problem!
September 2, 2009 12:02:12 PM

I think I will be getting a biger PSU for future (near futuer) expansion and I will be geeting a PSU that was designed for more cards.

I'd be interested in your thoughts on this discussion thread:
http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=38944&st=...

Thanks

Mark

And thanks for you thoughts!
a c 243 ) Power supply
September 2, 2009 12:29:45 PM

mark_k said:
I think I will be getting a biger PSU for future (near futuer) expansion and I will be geeting a PSU that was designed for more cards.

I'd be interested in your thoughts on this discussion thread:
http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=38944&st=...

Thanks

Mark

And thanks for you thoughts!

Getting a bigger psu for future expansion isn't a bad idea, but base your decision on high quality rather than high wattage and pretty lights,you can always add them another way;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is one line from the thread you linked to :
"It is a universal industry wide understanding that using PCIe adapters for high performance GPU's is a no-no.... "

Most manufacturers include the adapters.
Even PCP&C sells them, most of us know of their disdain for any type of modular connector.
I know people who have run high powered graphics cards for extended periods with the use of an adapter.
a b ) Power supply
September 2, 2009 4:16:53 PM

^+1. I too have run adapters for power hungry cards (2x8800GTX) and haven't had any problems.

@OP: Not to be rude, but most at SLIZone don't know WTF they are talking about. For example, they recommended an APAVIA unit!?!?!???

Quote:
Thanks for all the help, people.

My PSU is a 680W Apevia Iceburg Power
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...&CatId=148...


It has a lot of connectors that i am not using, but the 2 PCI-E connectors i am using, do you think i can use a splitter and power 2 cards?

Quote:

the PSU is sufficient for that setup. although the amperage may be maxed out with the two cards but it should do fine. and as far as wattage goes you are in the clear

September 2, 2009 6:17:46 PM




How does this work?
there are 6 pins in the PSU but the other side has 8 pins?

How can this work if the original socet has 6 pins? are the 2 new wires spliced into 2 of the 6 from the PSU?

There is a reason that there are 8 pins.
a c 248 ) Power supply
September 2, 2009 9:44:47 PM

It's very simple. The two extra "black" wires are black for a reason. They are ground wires. It's the yellow wires that are 12 volt wires. The two extra black wires do not supply current to the video card. The high end cards draw more current and that's why you have the extra ground wires. It was done to increase the gauge of the ground allowing more current to flow.




a c 243 ) Power supply
September 2, 2009 9:45:04 PM

The 2 extra pins are grounds, they're usually jumped off of a single ground wire. Not an electrical engineer, but apparently the extra grounds lower resistance enough to allow more current to flow.

Johnny beat me to it :) 
a c 243 ) Power supply
September 2, 2009 9:50:24 PM

Shadow703793 said:


@OP: Not to be rude, but most at SLIZone don't know WTF they are talking about. For example, they recommended an APAVIA unit!?!?!???


I didn't even want to go there.
September 2, 2009 11:15:29 PM

Thanks for the info I think this has been a good learning thread for me and I hope others.
September 2, 2009 11:37:55 PM

NP mark,

Have fun with the cards in SLI
!