New egg apparently has the Diamond 4770 in stock. Thing is, it costs $119.99 so the only reason to get it over the 4850 is if your PSU is too weak for the 4850, but just enough for the 4770.
You can get a 4870 for ~$125 or a 4850 for ~$90. Even though the 4770 performs fairly well there is little reason to get it at more than $90. It should be in the $80-$85 range.
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I realize that the mid range is where all the sales are but when you take all the stock cards they have and add all the variations created by all the manufacturers, they really don't need another card positioned in that range. It's faster than the 4770 or 4850 and it's supposed to be in the $100-$115 range.
You can get a 4870 for ~$125 or a 4850 for ~$90. Even though the 4770 performs fairly well there is little reason to get it at more than $90. It should be in the $80-$85 range.
I realize that the mid range is where all the sales are but when you take all the stock cards they have and add all the variations created by all the manufacturers, they really don't need another card positioned in that range.
Agreed. What's the point? The 4770 and the 4850 are competing against themselves. Why add a 4790 to compete with the 4870?
Message edited by drunknmunkys on 06-17-2009 at 07:13:27 PM
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Sigh, here comes the end of life naming retarded party!
Are these just extra 4890's they ahd left over that couldnt quite cut it as a 4890?
At least it isnt called the 4890LE or something stupid rediculous.. But I would prefer if the cards in a series (ie 4700) were at least all made with the same chip, just binned differently.. this gives us three totally independant 4700's now? Sigh..
I didn't notice that it was OOS but I've seen a ton of those deals lately, 4850 from $60-$80. I'm wondering if they're trying to do their version of what Nvidia does by changing the name of something and re-releasing it. I know the new card has GDDR5 but really what's the point of competing against yourself.
Message edited by ausch30 on 06-17-2009 at 07:19:22 PM
It looks to me like the 4790 is just a bad binning of 4890's.. Logically they should be used as 4850's (or just call them 4860 or 4855 as they are a tad bit faster clock for clock..) but that would make too much sence...
This happens all the time though, they have a bunch of chips left that are not good enough for 4890's, are too different to be called 4850's, and they want to sell them off. All the varients of the x19xx come to mind.
It looks to me like the 4790 is just a bad binning of 4890's.. Logically they should be used as 4850's (or just call them 4860 or 4855 as they are a tad bit faster clock for clock..) but that would make too much sence...
This happens all the time though, they have a bunch of chips left that are not good enough for 4890's, are too different to be called 4850's, and they want to sell them off. All the varients of the x19xx come to mind.
I agree that's what is happening but they could always sell them at a premium to OEM's to use in overclocked models of the 4770 or 4850.
It looks to me like the 4790 is just a bad binning of 4890's.. Logically they should be used as 4850's (or just call them 4860 or 4855 as they are a tad bit faster clock for clock..) but that would make too much sence...
This happens all the time though, they have a bunch of chips left that are not good enough for 4890's, are too different to be called 4850's, and they want to sell them off. All the varients of the x19xx come to mind.
They seem to like doing that, with the AMD x2, x3, x4 CPUs all having 4 cores, just not 4 working cores.
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Its possible the 40nm problems have thrown a wrench into their marketing plans also. So they keep mindshare, add a new sku, and continue selling.
But, I agree, too much
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Ya, the lack of 40nm f'd everything up. I had assumed the 4700's would all be shrinks of teh 4800;s. I guess they are suing the series to be poorly binned 4800's now as they dont have teh yields.. Though doing this is goign to be really confusing if they do end up getting true 40nm shrinks and have ot release a 4795 as teh 40nm 4790 :|.
Perhaps this is a sign that there are not going to be enough yields to have any 40nm products other than the 5000 series.
Well, since AMD stoped making RV770 that means that all current 4830s, 4850s, 4870s, and 4870 X2s are just what they have in stock and warehoused. Once those are gone it will leave a big gap between the 4770 and the 4890. Thus it makes sense to use low yeild chips that couldn't make it as 4890s to fill the hole left by the 4870 and also it seems the 4830 in the form of the 4730.
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