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Last minute tweeks on my P2 955 build - ordering parts tomorrow!

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May 29, 2009 12:58:23 AM

Here is my system build as it stands, I hope to order it all tomorrow - it's going to be mainly used for gaming/web surfing/light Office usage - installing Windows 7 RC1 on it. I want to keep the total cost under $1100. This is my first build, so any and all pointers are welcome (even as brand names to - no matter how obvious). Also, please let me know if any of this is overkill - such as too much on the PSU/Memory etc.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100269SR Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ... - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Is 4gb sufficient or should I buy 8gb? Or just wait a few months and upgrade later? I tried to read up on memory and all specs that go into it - so please help out if there's something that better suites my system

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Media Drives: 2 - LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooling: Is this necessary? XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total System Price: $1033 - I'm going to shop around to see if I can get lower prices anywhere else, free shipping on everything but the case.

Also - Silly question but is a thermal compound required?

Thanks everyone - can't wait to build my first rig!
May 29, 2009 8:02:17 AM

Since you're apparently not overclocking, may I suggest a 500W power supply? Also, the stock CPU cooler is already enough for non-OCers, unless you're based in a very warm and/or tropical country.
May 29, 2009 8:18:47 AM

^ 600w is recommended for the 4890 so thats a big no on the 500w.

stick with the 750tx so you can add another 4890 later.
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May 29, 2009 12:35:16 PM

TonCharr28 said:
Since you're apparently not overclocking, may I suggest a 500W power supply? Also, the stock CPU cooler is already enough for non-OCers, unless you're based in a very warm and/or tropical country.


I actually do plan on OCing. I have never done so before, but really want to learn, and from what I've read, it's easy enough to do so with this chip. With that in mind, is the 750W PSU good enough, or should I have any need to bump it up more?

Another thing to keep in mind is that a year or so down the road, if the computer games I play need it, I'll throw in another 4890 in crossfire to upgrade the system. Will 750W still be enough?
May 29, 2009 12:54:30 PM

yeah it will be enough, a good 650w could take that build with 2x 4890's, just not with oc'ing so a 750w will be more than enough.
May 29, 2009 10:31:49 PM

4gb is enough and 750w is a bit overkill but good for upgrades and btw you can run on 500w on a corsair or bfg or something higher up the 600w is directed at low end power supplies such as rosewill(ill never buy one again it fried my pc) also how much are you going to overclock because if your only going to like 3.4-3.5 then you dont need the xigametek cooler but it will help keep it kool and if you wanted im pretty sure you could hit 3.9 with the processor you could try your luck with 4 plus but you should be able to get to 3.7+easy and if you plan on going that then go for the cooler
May 30, 2009 5:31:26 AM

There's a huch MIR on the Contact Freezer, that's $15 AR. It's not as good as the DK, but for $15... Other than that your build looks great.
May 30, 2009 7:32:00 AM

phenoms have a combo deal with that motherboard

ram can probably combo with a video card
May 30, 2009 3:20:03 PM

Where's the monitor specs? If it's not al least 24" you don't need the 4890.
May 30, 2009 3:22:47 PM

It 21" and maximum res is 1650x1080. What about future games - I know it may be overkill now, but in a year, wouldn't I grow into the graphics card as games get more advanced?

Also, anyone have any other sites that offer good combo deals? I know newegg has lots of combo deals but I couldn't find any on zipzoomfly or ncixus...?
May 30, 2009 3:28:28 PM

My gut is telling me that you should save a few bucks by crossfireing two 4770's... quad monitor set-up too, lol

Wait, forgot to mention that the current interfaces like usb2 sata2 and pcie2 are gonna get replaced by the next gen versions later this year... and the fab process is going to shrink to 32nm or something, too. If you want to build something with those newer interfaces, you could probably start saving now by shaving off some bucks with a Phenom 720... although then you'd be really under-budget lol
May 30, 2009 3:48:30 PM

I thought about that - but a few things holding me back - I feel like running one GPU vs. 2 can prove to be more stable and compatible (although I have zero xfire experience, so I may just being naive). The 4770s will save me about $20, so not much of a difference. Also, I was going with the 4890 for upgradability in the future - if I need better performance, just buy another 4890 and voila my graphics become a beast again. I'm not ruling out buying a 24" 1920x monitor in the future either.

I'm open to hear out the arguments, since I've read nothing but great things for the 4770.
May 30, 2009 4:35:39 PM

Also - I think I'm still having a bit of an internal conflict on why exactly I'm not buying an i7 (the i7 build is about $80 more). For that price though I think I'm getting a lower end mobo, but if I'm using my computer mostly for gaming, I don't think it will matter which chipset I go with.

I've had AMD and Intel machines and enjoyed them both - I've just been turned off by Intel's business schemes and don't really want to knowingly support a business like that. Anyway - any final thoughts or arguments on why I shouldn't swap out the CPUs?

I know at this point I'll be happy with either machine (yet still wonder what it would be like with the other machine, and obviously I'm not buying 2), but I don't want to gimp myself just for the sake of gimping myself.

I guess I'm just conflicted :-p.
May 31, 2009 2:30:32 AM

To answer your last question, yes you need thermal compound. Your CPU should come with some unless its OEM or Out of Box.
May 31, 2009 3:53:39 AM

steelcityace said:
Also - I think I'm still having a bit of an internal conflict on why exactly I'm not buying an i7 (the i7 build is about $80 more). For that price though I think I'm getting a lower end mobo, but if I'm using my computer mostly for gaming, I don't think it will matter which chipset I go with.

I've had AMD and Intel machines and enjoyed them both - I've just been turned off by Intel's business schemes and don't really want to knowingly support a business like that. Anyway - any final thoughts or arguments on why I shouldn't swap out the CPUs?

I know at this point I'll be happy with either machine (yet still wonder what it would be like with the other machine, and obviously I'm not buying 2), but I don't want to gimp myself just for the sake of gimping myself.

I guess I'm just conflicted :-p.


Intel all the way in that case. You get a much newer and better chipset with support for both Crossfire and SLI, which means you can go and get yourself a GTX260 (or 275, or w/e you like) that supports CUDA when some apps start benefiting from it. And you also get PhysX. And from my experience, Nvidia is just better all around, better support, better drivers, lower temperatures, better compatibility, etc. the list goes on and on. And you don't get massive fps drops with AA on, like you do with ATI.

Helltech said:
To answer your last question, yes you need thermal compound. Your CPU should come with some unless its OEM or Out of Box.


Well if you lap them perfectly (which is not really possible in reality), theoretically you wouldn't need any thermal goop... but then again the IHS expands to make it convex lol
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