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August 8, 2005 12:03:53 AM

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I cut my DirecTV cable while doing some light renovation.

To repair it, I used RG6 coax "barrel" connectors and short length of cable
purchased from Lowes. After trimming the cable for new connectors, the
cable ends were too far apart to connect. I could not stretch the cable so
I also had to use a short length (needed one inch but used two feet) of
standard coax cable to make the two ends meet.

I have great reception on the channels that I receive. However, I'm now
missing some channels. One of them is the one channel the wife watches so I
am in the dog house until I fix the stupid thing. ;) 

Research tells me I should not have used standard RG6 coax to repair the
break. I think I should have used the "2GHz" cable and connectors. I can't
find that type of cable here so I'll have to order some.

My question is, if I go through all this trouble to order this special
"satellite cable" will this fix my missing channels?

Or am I going to have to run all new cable?

Thanks!
Jim

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August 9, 2005 6:10:50 AM

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Have you checked the signal on the different transponders. If you let us
know which ones may not be working, it might help figure it out.

Clark

"Jim" <spamaddyREMOVE@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:yayJe.9193$%X1.3438@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>I cut my DirecTV cable while doing some light renovation.
>
> To repair it, I used RG6 coax "barrel" connectors and short length of
> cable purchased from Lowes. After trimming the cable for new connectors,
> the cable ends were too far apart to connect. I could not stretch the
> cable so I also had to use a short length (needed one inch but used two
> feet) of standard coax cable to make the two ends meet.
>
> I have great reception on the channels that I receive. However, I'm now
> missing some channels. One of them is the one channel the wife watches so
> I am in the dog house until I fix the stupid thing. ;) 
>
> Research tells me I should not have used standard RG6 coax to repair the
> break. I think I should have used the "2GHz" cable and connectors. I
> can't find that type of cable here so I'll have to order some.
>
> My question is, if I go through all this trouble to order this special
> "satellite cable" will this fix my missing channels?
>
> Or am I going to have to run all new cable?
>
> Thanks!
> Jim
>
Anonymous
August 11, 2005 5:03:45 AM

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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:03:53 -0500, "Jim"
<spamaddyREMOVE@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>I cut my DirecTV cable while doing some light renovation.
>
>To repair it, I used RG6 coax "barrel" connectors and short length of cable
>purchased from Lowes. After trimming the cable for new connectors, the
>cable ends were too far apart to connect. I could not stretch the cable so
>I also had to use a short length (needed one inch but used two feet) of
>standard coax cable to make the two ends meet.
>
>I have great reception on the channels that I receive. However, I'm now
>missing some channels. One of them is the one channel the wife watches so I
>am in the dog house until I fix the stupid thing. ;) 
>
>Research tells me I should not have used standard RG6 coax to repair the
>break. I think I should have used the "2GHz" cable and connectors. I can't
>find that type of cable here so I'll have to order some.
>
>My question is, if I go through all this trouble to order this special
>"satellite cable" will this fix my missing channels?
>
>Or am I going to have to run all new cable?
>
>Thanks!
>Jim
>
Im also gonna guess that you used twist on fitting..........
make sure that there is some grond available.
ie, that the fitting is not twisted only to the plastic lining.
strip back a 1/4 of the plastic alone to ensure that the loop is ok.
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August 13, 2005 12:36:31 PM

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"Clark" <who@whoknows.com> wrote in message
> Have you checked the signal on the different transponders. If you let us
> know which ones may not be working, it might help figure it out.

Allrighty! Signal strength as follows:
I'll only list the ones with zeros. All other have about 94 except for #26
which has a 79.

"Zeroed" transponders are: 1,3,5,7,9,11,12,13,15,17,19,20,21,23,25,27,29,31.

There are 32 in all, in case that's important to know.

Thank you!
August 13, 2005 12:46:04 PM

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"billyray" <5699@REMOVE.com> wrote in message
> Im also gonna guess that you used twist on fitting..........

You'd guess right. ;) 


> make sure that there is some grond available.
> ie, that the fitting is not twisted only to the plastic lining.
> strip back a 1/4 of the plastic alone to ensure that the loop is ok.

Just to make sure I have this right: There are four components in a cross
section of a cable. (1) The outer black protective layer, (2) the silver
shielding (what I think you are calling "ground") (3) an inner white plastic
insulator then (4) the copper wire at the center.

You are saying I need to strip back the outer (black) layer 1/4 inch? The
twist-on won't "twist" if I do that, will it?

I do know the copper wire actually extends a little past the end of the
cable. That should be enough, right?

I'm assuming that I do not have to use any "special" cable or connectors
otherwise, y'all would have reprimanded me on that, right? ;) 
Anonymous
August 13, 2005 7:39:08 PM

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Plain and simple. You've made a bad connection with your barrel connector or
the connector will not pass the signal to the LNB. You're experiencing what
we call transponder null on the ODD number transponders.

Other possible causes:

Nicks in the copper conductor or lack of nylon shielding between the
conductor and F connector shell

Torn shielding

Ground wire touching conductor (one tiny strand will do it)

RG-59 mistaken for RG-6 on the dish side of the receiver.

Cheap connector. (will not handle Hertz freq. from receiver)
August 13, 2005 7:39:09 PM

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"Chip Saunders" <OU812@yourisp.net> wrote in message
> Other possible causes:
>
> Nicks in the copper conductor or lack of nylon shielding between the
> conductor and F connector shell
>
> Torn shielding
>
> Ground wire touching conductor (one tiny strand will do it)
>
> RG-59 mistaken for RG-6 on the dish side of the receiver.
>
> Cheap connector. (will not handle Hertz freq. from receiver)

Interesting.

Could you help explain this (I hadn't considered this before now):

I've got two separate TVs - one with a TiVo - so that makes three separate
cables. I only cut/repaired two of the cables yet am experiencing channel
loss on all three cables.

The TiVo has one original (good) cable and one cut/repaired cable.
Transponder tests indicate signal loss on both.

What would explain that?

Thanks,
Jim
Anonymous
August 19, 2005 7:55:32 AM

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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:36:31 -0500, "Jim"
<spamaddyREMOVE@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>"Clark" <who@whoknows.com> wrote in message
>> Have you checked the signal on the different transponders. If you let us
>> know which ones may not be working, it might help figure it out.
>
>Allrighty! Signal strength as follows:
>I'll only list the ones with zeros. All other have about 94 except for #26
>which has a 79.
>
>"Zeroed" transponders are: 1,3,5,7,9,11,12,13,15,17,19,20,21,23,25,27,29,31.
>
>There are 32 in all, in case that's important to know.
>
>Thank you!
>
Somehow you are only getting one half of the feed from the dish.
if all tvs experiance the same problem then one of the two required
feeds from the dish are bad.ie the one feeding the multiswitch.
if you disconnect one at a time you will see that noting changes
when you remove one feed. and all the signal goes out when you remove
the other. there will be your problem

Good luck!
August 20, 2005 10:11:33 AM

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"billyray" <5699@REMOVE.com> wrote in message

> Somehow you are only getting one half of the feed from the dish.
> if all tvs experiance the same problem then one of the two required
> feeds from the dish are bad.ie the one feeding the multiswitch.

Thank you. As soon as I figure out what a multiswitch is, I'll fix this
silly thing! ;) 

Seriously, thanks.

Jim
!