I have a couple of old computers I want to combine into one.
Which CPU would you go for?
Celeron D 352 3.2 (Cedar Mill core) --- in an eMachine case
or
Pentium 4 2.0A 2.0ghz (Northwood core) --- in a Dell case
I know the Celeron D is newer, but the P4 can handle multitasking. I'm not looking to play games... just have another computer around to network / store crap.
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Reply to saint19
The Celeron D 3.2 GHz would be faster. It has 256k of cache (as opposed to the crippling 128k in the old Celeron) which is just enough to make it useful. The P4 would have to run around 2.9 or so to compete especially since it's one of the earlier ones with the slower FSB and I'm assuming 512k of cache.
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Reply to megamanx00
Done a bit of checking up on the overclockablility of the P4s. That's sitting on a dell motherboard. That'd limit me pretty good, unless I can use ClockGen PLL or similar software. Celeron D is kind of junk... I'm just still not sure because the P4 is just damn old. Any more ideas guys?
Wow, a lot of FUD in this thread so let's clear it up: The Celeron D 352 a 3.2GHz, 533 fsb Cedarmill CPU with 512KB L2 cache and socket 775 as newf stated above. The p4 is a 2.0 GHz, 400 fsb, C1 stepping northwood core with 512KB L2 cache on the antiquated socket 478. The P4 does not have hyperthreading, and can only reach a 2.66GHz speed with pinmod. The Cedermill Celeron, on the other hand, would upright kick the snot out of that old P4. It is a known overclocker, and can do 4.8GHz/800 fsb with just a couple pin mods. Thanks to it's 65nm design, the Celeron has an acceptable TDP, with C1 revisions being only 65 watt. Finally, the Celeron offers more advanced features, such as SSE3, xbit, and 64 bit capability. The fact that it is on LGA 775 means there is a good chance that the chipset inside that Emachine will also support Pentium D processors for a future upgrade.
Why anyone here would even think about choosing the P4 over the Celeron, can only be because they don't have a flippin clue about the CPUs being discussed, and instead are relying on their (incorrect) knee-jerk reactions.
Wow, a lot of FUD in this thread so let's clear it up: The Celeron D 352 a 3.2GHz, 533 fsb Cedarmill CPU with 512KB L2 cache and socket 775 as newf stated above. The p4 is a 2.0 GHz, 400 fsb, C1 stepping northwood core with 512KB L2 cache on the antiquated socket 478. The P4 does not have hyperthreading, and can only reach a 2.66GHz speed with pinmod. The Cedermill Celeron, on the other hand, would upright kick the snot out of that old P4. It is a known overclocker, and can do 4.8GHz/800 fsb with just a couple pin mods. Thanks to it's 65nm design, the Celeron has an acceptable TDP, with C1 revisions being only 65 watt. Finally, the Celeron offers more advanced features, such as SSE3, xbit, and 64 bit capability. The fact that it is on LGA 775 means there is a good chance that the chipset inside that Emachine will also support Pentium D processors for a future upgrade.
Why anyone here would even think about choosing the P4 over the Celeron, can only be because they don't have a flippin clue about the CPUs being discussed, and instead are relying on their (incorrect) knee-jerk reactions.
Thanks JoeFriday. Nail in the coffin for the P4... I'll be using the celery.
+1 for the Celeron. I managed to get a Celeron 315 to 3.6Ghz
I've never done a pin-mod. I might try clockgen first. BSEL mod + vmod looks a little bit daunting. I did some searches but can't find the right pins to clip/cover. Any idea where I can find these?
Why mod it ot overclock if its for general use and storage, it will be fast enough for internet browsing, file sharing and the likes, keep it stock and stable
Why mod it ot overclock if its for general use and storage, it will be fast enough for internet browsing, file sharing and the likes, keep it stock and stable
Excellent point... but I want to play with it a bit. Nothing to extreme.
I updated to the latest INTEL bios for the D101GGC (vs the eMachines one). Didn't give me any new options to up the FSB, but the memory clock is still at 400mhz.
Will proably leave it, but will try clockgen to get it up a little bit.
Message edited by diznanl on 09-04-2009 at 08:14:18 PM