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Hey folks,

I've been doing lots of research in trying to customize my own PC. It's been like 5 years since I last upgraded my PC. I'm currently running an AMD Mobile 3400+, Abit NF7-S, 2 GB DDR PC3200 Corsair XMS, 250 GB Samsung, Antec Sonata, Antec TruePower 450 W. Yea, I know its like ancient and outdated. I was waiting for the release of the Phenom II AM3 socket before I decided to go for the much needed upgrade. Since i'm gonna be giving away my old PC to a family friend, i decided to get a new PC that would last me for quite some time. Since I'm graduating from college and I have some money saved up for quite a while (over 5 years since my last PC build lol), I decided to go for a great system. What do you guys think of my current PC setup? i'm going for the 1 TB storage because i record some videos for family functions, do some photoshop editing on the side. I was looking on Newegg to try to get as many good deals/discounts as possible when putting together this PC.

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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next week

BUDGET RANGE: $950-$1200

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies, multi-tasking

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mice (gonna reuse my Logitech Desktop Keyboard+mouse), Speakers, Monitor (got a recent SAMSUNG Toc T220HD Rose Black 22 off Newegg), DVD Drive (Got an old Samsung DVD-RW drive lying around), OS (thinking of going Windows 7 64 bit beta here)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com (generally get stuff from there)

PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD Phenom II AM3 socket, 4 GB DDR3 RAM, Antec for cases/PSU, Corsair generally for RAM

OVERCLOCKING: Yes

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Would like a good sturdy system that will last me for quite a while (lookin to keep the PC for roughly 4-5 years and would like it to be stable, don't mind the noise as long as it isn't SUPER loud that I could hear in my sleep (i don't plan on leaving the PC on 24/7 like my other PC))

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List of Parts I'm considering:

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail

RAM:
CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1600C9DHX - Retail

Original Price: $342.00
Discount: -$50.00, $10 mail-in rebate
Combo Price + rebate: $282.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.192694



Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

Original Price: $139.99
Rebate: $15 mail-in
Final Price: $129.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128378


Heatsink for CPU:
Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - Retail


Original Price: $39.99
Rebate: $25 mail-in
Final Price: $14.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835207004


Hard Drive:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD102UJ 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

Price: $79.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152101

Case:
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Power Supply:
Antec TruePower New TP-750 Blue 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail

Original price: $239.94
Discount: -$40.00
Combo Price: $199.94

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.193715


Video Card:
HIS Hightech H487QT1GP Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ 4+ Turbo Video Card - Retail


Original price: $259.99
Rebate: $20 mail in
Final price: $239.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161265

Internal Floppy/Memory Card Reader:
SABRENT CRW-FLP2 All-in-one USB 2.0 Floppy Drive and 68in1 Internal Memory Card Reader & Writer - SDHC/VISTA - Retail

Original price: $22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820300009


Initial Total Cost: $1,034.89
Tax $95.73
UPS 3 DAYS $30.65
Order Total $1,161.27

After rebates: ($70 worth)
$1091.27

About the OS, I was wondering if I could just use Windows 7 beta release 64 bit?

-Thanks guys!!!
DragonBeat

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Looks good to me .

If theres anything I'd improve it would be to either use a single 4890 video card or a pair of 4770's in crossfire . Either is over kill right now , but in the next few years will probably pay off at your resolution .
IMO its not a good plan to think you will crossfire the 4870 in a few years since their will be no 4870's by then .....

Reply to Outlander_04

I'd also get the Phenom II x4 940 over the 955 - it'll clock just as high, and costs a good deal less.

Reply to Cpt Deadboots

On second thought, the 955/memory is a great combo deal. I'd only change your motherboard to a 790FX and the video card to a cheaper 4870.

Reply to Cpt Deadboots

Cpt Deadboots wrote :

I'd also get the Phenom II x4 940 over the 955 - it'll clock just as high, and costs a good deal less.



the 940 is an AM2+ processor and needs an AM2+ mb . It is not compatible with am3 systems with DDR3

BUT

the 945BE is a 3.0 GHz AM3 cpu and better value than the 955 for the reasons you mention

Reply to Outlander_04

Thanks for the responses guys! Does the 945 come in a BE? I got the 955 cuz the combo w/ the Corsair memory was $50 off and the corsair memory has a $10 rebate for a total of $60 off. I thought the savings on the combo alone justified getting a 955BE over the 945 (its only a $20 difference).

what would be a suitable replacement video card? (im not that familar w/ video cards)

Thanks!

Reply to dragonbeat

For the price your paying on the 4870 (about $50 too much) you could get a pair of these 4850s for cheaper that will destroy it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102824

Reply to yoyojam55

yoyojam55 wrote :

For the price your paying on the 4870 (about $50 too much) you could get a pair of these 4850s for cheaper that will destroy it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102824




good point

4890's are cheaper than that too , and the performance is also higher

or 2 x 4770's in crossfire [ rather than the 4850's ]

Reply to Outlander_04

would it be better to crossfire 2 low end cards or to just get 1 great video card.

2 x 4770/4850s vs. 1 4890

and if i do crossfire 2 cards do they have to be the exact type of card or does it jsut have to have the same chipset?

Reply to dragonbeat

They both have their advantages. Crossfiring 4850s will be faster than 1 4890, but if you just get one card then you can add another one later for even more performance. It's up to you.

Reply to yoyojam55

Theres an article in the section of this site about gfx cards . They crossfire two 4770's andcompare to a 4890 .
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2288.html

The 4770 is preferred to the 4850 IMO . The chip is burned in a finer process and it uses less power and performs just as well

Reply to Outlander_04

Thanks for the help guys!

I was looking for some 4770s but they're out of stock (i guess they must be very popular lol).

would this video card suffice for crossfire?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102822

thanks alot guys!

Reply to dragonbeat

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2098.html

The 4770 is similar in specs to the 4830 , but the 4770 is a definite improvement .

Reply to Outlander_04

I decided to revamp the system... This is my updated list:

 

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131363
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Original Price: $199.99
You Save: $10.00
$189.99

 


CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail

 

RAM:
CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1600C9DHX - Retail

 

Original Price: $342.00
Discount: -$50.00, $10 mail-in rebate
Combo Price + rebate: $282.00

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.192694

 

Heatsink for CPU:
Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - Retail

 


Original Price: $39.99
Rebate: $25 mail-in
Final Price: $14.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835207004

 


Hard Drive:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD102UJ 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

 

Price: $79.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152101

 

Internal Floppy/Memory Card Reader:
SABRENT CRW-FLP2 All-in-one USB 2.0 Floppy Drive and 68in1 Internal Memory Card Reader & Writer - SDHC/VISTA - Retail

 

Original price: $22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820300009

 

Video Card:
SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102822

 


Original Price: $99.99
You Save: $10.00
$89.99
($79.99 after $10.00 Mail-In
Rebate)

 

i'll prob get 2 and crossfire them)

 

Case + PSU:

 

Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129025

 

Antec TruePower New TP-750 Blue 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371022

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.193757

 

1. Antec P182: $144.99

 

2. Antec TP-750 Blue: $139.95

 

Combo Discount: -$40.00
Combo Price: $244.94

 


I just changed the case, mobo, and video cards.

 

total costs now:
$1,064.99 (newegg)
+ $106.98 (tigerdirect)
$1171.97

 

after savings/rebates

 

$1111.97

 



Message edited by dragonbeat on 05-31-2009 at 06:27:12 AM
Reply to dragonbeat

i was thinking of getting 2 separate sapphire graphics cards (1 from newegg and 1 from tigerdirect) of the ati radeon hd 4830s...

Sapphire Radeon HD 4830 Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102822

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] kwCjCECjCE

only difference is that one has 2 DVI ports and the other has 1 DVI and 1 VGA. THese should work fine as a crossfire right?

Reply to dragonbeat

Two 4830s in Crossfire perform similar to 1 4870 512MB. It's just not worth it. Either bump up to Crossfired 4850 (or 4770s, if for some reason you want less performance for more money) or get a 4870 1GB. If you just get 1 4870 you can add another one in the future if you want, but CF'd 4850s will outperform it.

Reply to yoyojam55

yea i see where you're coming from. i decided to go w/ crossfired 4850s on newegg (it was only $15 more). Plus, it came w/ 2 hdmI cables which come in pretty handy.

i wish that there wasn't any CA taxes on Newegg... im paying my local state government over $100 in taxes -_-'.

Reply to dragonbeat

Thanks guys! I put together my order and sent it in on newegg.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/pc2-1.jpg

$1127.67 total cost

but after $50 rebates it'll be $1077.67.

its a bummer w/ CA taxes -_-'.

Reply to dragonbeat

Nice build, really. So sweet!

Reply to Cpt Deadboots

Did you buy it yet?

Reply to x_2fast4u_x

yea. im waiting for it to ship. i can't wait to put this rig together. i'm gonna recycle some old hard drives (250 GB, 2x200 GB, 1x 120 GB) and my Samsung IDE 12xDvD-RW.

it should go nicely w/ the samsung td220HD. i love the 2 free HDMI cables that came w/ the order (will be nice to have cuz i plan on getting a ps3 down the line). im looking forward to the transition from 32bit to 64bit.

Reply to dragonbeat

good news guys! i just finished putting together this entire PC. im installing windows 7 right now! even tho its been 5 years since i last built a PC, the instructions were pretty straightforward :). I'm loving the antec 900 case . the sunbeam core contact freezer is HUGE... i mean.. holy smokes that heat sink is taking a good chunk of my board space. its a bit tricky w/ the cable arrangement but im workin on tidying things up. will have pics soon :)

Reply to dragonbeat

Here are the images as promised:

 

Comp setup pics...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture7.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture8.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture4.jpg

 

Side Views:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture17.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture18.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture21.jpg

 

Diag tests:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/PCspecs.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/diag.jpg

 

Final specs for PC:

 

-AMD Phenom II 955 BE
-MSI 790FX-GD70
-8GB RAM (4 GB Patriot DDR 9-9-9-24 and 4 GB Corsair DDR 9-9-9-24)
- i originally got the corsair ram but the heatspread got in the way of mounting the 120mm fan for the sunbeam core contact cooler so i got the patriot ram which allowed room for the sunbeam heatsink
-Sapphire 4850 x 2 (xfire setup)
-500GB WD SATA, 250 GB Samsung SATA, 200 GB WD PATA100
-2 DVD+RW drives (i had em lying around)
-Antec 900 Case
-Antec 750 W blue LED PSU
-Windows 7 64bit OS

 

its been a solid PC so far. im loving it. havent had time yet but will test it w/ crysis soon :)


Message edited by dragonbeat on 07-15-2009 at 11:27:31 PM
Reply to dragonbeat

here are some more pics of the inside of the build.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture23.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture24.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture25.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture26.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture27.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture28.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture29.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture30.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/Xtremesuperhigh/Picture31.jpg

Reply to dragonbeat
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