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mattdl   06-20-2009 at 08:26:29 PM

Hey everyone!

I'm looking to setup a new system around the ASUS P6T SE board with a nehalem cpu and 6GB of Kingston DDR3 @ 1333MHz or 1600MHz and eventually Windows 7 64-bit.

The important question for this system is what do I do for my video card?!

I'm debating between getting a single Radeon HD 4870 w/ 1GB or two Radeon HD 4870 w/ 512MB (the P6T has 3 x16 slots and 2 of them are electrically x16 as well). I can't find any performance reviews comparing this kinda setup and was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me why I'd go with one setup over another (other then the 1GB option being cheaper).

Will I notice any worthwhile performance improvements going with 2 512MB cards in crossfire over the 1GB card? I'll mainly be playing Crysis and Far Cry 2 and then any other kickass FPS that come out.

Thanks for any feedback guys!!

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Maziar   06-21-2009 at 08:01:57 AM
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Hello and welcome to the forums mate :)
Well 1GB vs 512 isn't very important and you wont see a noticeable difference between them so 2 HD 4870 512 beat 1 HD 4870 1GB

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teja92   06-21-2009 at 10:59:02 AM
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2 HD 4870 nearly equals a HD 4870X2

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ausch30   06-21-2009 at 11:14:33 AM
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There's very little price difference between the 4870 512 and the 1gb. If you use 2 cards in crossfire or SLI you only have half the total memory available to both GPU's so 2 4870 512's would only be able to use 512. My suggestion would be to go with 2 4870 1gb, especially if your monitor resolution is 1920x1200 or higher.

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swifty_morgan   06-21-2009 at 05:40:30 PM
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I wouldn't buy a card with only 512 of video memory anymore. And if you have enough money to get 2 512 cards then I would suggest getting a 4890.

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coozie7   06-21-2009 at 05:58:15 PM
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Some extra points to consider:
Power, do you have enough? Heat, does your case have enough airflow? Coolers: More than a few cards have coolers that dump some or all of their heat into the case and we see a LOT of problems caused by this.

Do not get a 512Mb card for a new build, the savings are too small to justify the potential performance losses.
As for dual cards, even at higher resoloutions a single card will give good performance with eye candy enabled so I would suggest getting one for the build and adding another when, or if, you feel the need.

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yonef   06-21-2009 at 05:59:05 PM
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I suggest you go for HD4890 with aftermarket cooler and pre OC , you can OC it a bit more and you'll get almost 2x4870 performance. (4890 will be faster where CF is not scaling well, and will be a bit slower where CF is scaling very well.) Plus you wont bother Crossfire.

if you are in UK : http://overclockers.co.uk/showprod [...] =GX-102-PC
US: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814131156

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Gigabyte MA790X-UD4 (SB750); Corsair 2x2GB 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 HDD Samsung SpinPoint F1 1TB; HDD Seagate Baracuda 7200.10 250GB;
LG DVD-RW; ATI Radeon HD 4870 @ 850/4200 Mhz; 22"LCD;
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coozie7   06-21-2009 at 06:09:39 PM
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^^^I meant coolers exactly like this!

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ausch30   06-21-2009 at 06:15:11 PM
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coozie7 wrote :

^^^I meant coolers exactly like this!



I agree with your concerns about the aftermarket cooler on some cards but it really depends on the case and how effective it's cooling is. I still wouldn't suggest a card like that though simply due to cost. You can find the 4890 ~$160, I don't see the benefit of spending almost $80 more for a cooler and overclocking which you can do.

Take this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161276
Add this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118037
With this
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments [...] 47&catid=2
=$227.96+ the cost of the mosfet sink which will likely be about $10.
You end up in the same price range but with much better cooling


Message edited by ausch30 on 06-21-2009 at 06:26:53 PM
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swifty_morgan   06-21-2009 at 09:42:11 PM
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If you increase the fan speed in the ATI control panel you don't need to spend $50 on an after market cooling solution.

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yonef   06-21-2009 at 11:35:30 PM
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if you increase fan speed it gonna sound like a jet taking off! it is not an option for me :)

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Gigabyte MA790X-UD4 (SB750); Corsair 2x2GB 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 HDD Samsung SpinPoint F1 1TB; HDD Seagate Baracuda 7200.10 250GB;
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mattdl   06-22-2009 at 09:35:08 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, very helpful!

Power isn't really an issue since it will be a new build and I can buy the powersupply to suit my components.

My monitor is a single 24" 1920*1200 display and that's what I'll be sticking with for a few years. I don't have to play games at that res (but it would be nice), I just love it for working in Windows!

The reason I was thinking of going with 2 cards was for the extra performance offered by crossfire. Reading these replies it sounds like I won't get any boost from 2x 512MB vs 1x 1GB so I think I'll do like coozie7 suggested and go with 1 card for now and buy another one a year or two down the read to do crossfire if needed. Maybe I'll go with the 4890 if I can find it for less then a 4870 x2 (I'm in Canada).

ausch30 wrote :

There's very little price difference between the 4870 512 and the 1gb. If you use 2 cards in crossfire or SLI you only have half the total memory available to both GPU's so 2 4870 512's would only be able to use 512. My suggestion would be to go with 2 4870 1gb, especially if your monitor resolution is 1920x1200 or higher.



I'm not really sure what you mean by this. I'd only have half the memory available if I use 2x 512MB vs 1x GB??

Thanks again guys, this really helped my decision making!

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ausch30   06-22-2009 at 09:43:38 PM
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mattdl wrote :


I'm not really sure what you mean by this. I'd only have half the memory available if I use 2x 512MB vs 1x GB??

Thanks again guys, this really helped my decision making!


Yes, if your using 2x 512 cards in SLI or Crossfire you only have 512 of usable memory, you don't add them together. If you were to use 2x 1gb cards you would have 1gb available which would help performance, especially at higher resolutions like your 1920x1200.

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mattdl   06-22-2009 at 09:48:14 PM
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ausch30 wrote :

Yes, if your using 2x 512 cards in SLI or Crossfire you only have 512 of usable memory, you don't add them together. If you were to use 2x 1gb cards you would have 1gb available which would help performance, especially at higher resolutions like your 1920x1200.



So then cross fire is like a mirror raid? It doesn't increase your storage (or available memory in this case)?

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ausch30   06-22-2009 at 11:39:56 PM
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No, neither crossfire nor SLI add the memory together.

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