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CyberPower

Primary use: Some gaming, multi-tasking, web browsing, low profile video/sound edition.

Budget for this parts less than 900 (dont need Case, CD, keyboard or mouse)

UPDATE SEE BELOW

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 190 I dont plan to OC to much, so the Stock fan should be good?

Memory:

1. G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231166 for 55 USD

2. OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227362 37 USD with the combo offer

Worth paying the extra for the gskill kit?

HD Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB for 50 USD I dont really need more

VGA:

Many options here

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161265
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161247
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102831
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102826
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102801 this one have a discount with the phenom 940
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102830 this one have a discount with the phenom 940

I really care for price, and I dont really know if the extra mhz in the core will be that big difference.

MOBO:

my primary option was:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128387
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813138130 discount with the phenom 940
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813138137 discount with the phenom 940
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131384 discount with the phenom 940
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131366
Discount for the 940

Monitor: ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail 200 USD

Best option for the price?? Want the size and the HD

PSU: Dont plan is using crossfire right now, so just the power for 1 HDD 1 GPU, the CPU and thats it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341022
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341016

Message edited by ciberfog on 06-08-2009 at 07:19:23 AM

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This hard drive is faster and runs cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] Tpk=Caviar

This is a good choice for a board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128387

And I would go with the faster G.Skill.

If you intend to only run the one GPU, then a high quality 500W or 550W will be fine. Don't use a Rosewill though, they are mostly junk.

BFG 550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] Tpk=LS-550

PC P&C 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703015

OCZ600SXS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341010

PC P&C 750
This would be enough to run TWO 4870s, in case you upgrade.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703009

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With that adds the price go up to 880, lil high.

The mobo should have the chip 790? is the better?

so 500W should be enough for this rig?

Reply to ciberfog

Actually you can do with a 770.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131381

This would be that absolute cheapest PSU you can use. Don't buy some junk PSU that will burn up your parts.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341016

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I don't see a case, opticals, or OS in your build. You already have these?

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Saphire 1G 4850

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Yeah already have the OS Windows Vista ultimate or the new windows.

Opticals and a Clear Case.

Comparing that 2 mobos, really worth the extra 28 USD for the gigabyte?

Reply to ciberfog

The two main differences of the Gigabyte board are the crossfire ability and overclocking. You'll get no crossfire and lesser overclock with the 770 board.

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So i think this is the final build, just one more question.

Wich psu is better?

HD

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -
$54.99

MONITOR

ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
$199.99

MOBO
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
$109.99

GPU
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video
$189.99

PSU
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Certified Modular Active PFC Power
$69.99

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
$62.00

RAM
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail
$54.99

CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX - Retail

$189

Reply to ciberfog

In terms of quality, the PC Power & Cooling Silencer would be better than the OCZ but OCZ is a modular PSU
If you are not much fixed to Modular PSU, then get the PC Power Cooling...

Reply to gkay09

And what do you guys think about all the Rig?

Reply to ciberfog

If you are still open to suggestion, here is one...
Change the graphics card to this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161259

And PSU to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341001
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341017

Reason - You can get one more 4850 in crossfire for just $35 more than your previous setup with that 4870 1GB
And for 1080p resolution, the 4850 crossfire would be very powerful...
And those PSUs can handle 4850 in crossfire...
So what do you think ?

Message edited by gkay09 on 06-02-2009 at 08:31:08 AM

Reply to gkay09

I updated, please see the first message.

Reply to ciberfog

Get this Graphics card by today if you can as it has a very good offer...
SAPPHIRE 100269OCSR Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - OC edition - Retail
$20 off with promo code HARDOCP61VGA2, ends 6/8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102831

It is factory overclocked to 1GHz and is cheaper than the standard one...This is a very good deal...$20 off with the code too...but valid only today...

PSU - get the OCZ fatality - 550W...

Reply to gkay09

200 for the card is a great price, Im reading the reviews of the card, many people is having problems with the "fan" and the extra noises. Dunno but this card is like 50 USD more cheaper than the others "normal" 4890 cards, little weird.

Reply to ciberfog

I just checked out the reviews...And I feel that mostly all the ATI cards have this fan noise problem...And that too this card comes overclocked @ 901MHz and now 1GHz(Which I had mistaken) so the stock fans have to do more work, hence give out more noise...
Apart from the noise issue, I dint see any major problems that those people encountered...
For your doubt about the cost, it might be because of the newegg's pricing algorithm, which I heard automatically reduces the prices if demand goes down...
The OC version was priced lot higher, so people were not opting for it, which led to low demand and hence the above...though check the reviews of that card in the net...

Reply to gkay09

Thanks! comparing with the other 4870 Oc models, look like they are a lil less noisy, I dont want a airplane turbine for an extra few fps.

Any suggestion with the mobo options?

Thanks.

Reply to ciberfog

Get the Gigabyte 790X...

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Monitor - ASUS VH236H ...as it has smaller pixel pitch
PSU - Seasonic...

Reply to gkay09

While Seasonic is a company that makes great PSUs, I would hesitate to recommend a new unit with no reviews. If the money is that tight, then yes.

If you can afford a bit more, this one is well tested and I would guess marginally better than the Seasonic.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] Tpk=LS-550

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Reply to Proximon

^ That PSU is also a very good one...make sure you ge the LS and not GS version...
Another high quality PSU for that rate,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703015

Reply to gkay09

Those 2 are better than the OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ??

because is 10 more USD

What about the black caviar, they are 75 USD for a 640 gb, and my primary option was the 16mb cache 320gb, doesnt matter the size of the HD for me, already have 2 TB in external drives, so i need one for the OS and thats it.

Really worth the extra 20 usd for the 16mb plus cache?

Reply to ciberfog

OCZ PSUs are adequate, but not much more than that. If you can get a higher rated PSU for 10 bucks more, it's usually worthwhile.

The Caviar Blue 320GB is good. The 640GB Black will probably be slightly faster, but the 320, having the single dense platter, is pretty nice.

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Reply to Proximon

Thanks a lot for all the inputs.

I think im ready to order, Will get the psu upgrade and let the 320 HD then.

Cant wait to try out this baby haha.

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