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komj   06-02-2009 at 04:17:08 PM

Hi :D im gonna buy a new pc its gonna be used for gaming.
http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 58;c:36213 ram

 

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2405566
graphics card

 

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 92;c:36124 pcpu

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 790XT-UD4P motherboard

 

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 98;c:36231 cpu fan

 

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 37;c:36217 psu

 

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 51;c:36376 hdd

 

hope u leave any comments about improvements, alternative to components etc:)

 

i will use windows xp, maybe windows 7 later
please leave a comment, ill be happy:)
gonna buy it in a month or somithing
gonna overclock the cpu abit, should i get a new cooler then?
not gonna use crossfire or sli
with all the parts i linkd it will cost 1122us dollar
my budget is 1200 dollar

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drunknmunkys   06-02-2009 at 05:51:24 PM
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komj wrote :

Hi :D im gonna buy a new pc its gonna be used for gaming.
http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 58;c:36213 ram

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2405566
graphics card

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 92;c:36124 prosseco

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 790XT-UD4P motherboard

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 37;c:36217 psu

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 51;c:36376 hdd

hope u leave any comments about improvements, alternative to components etc:)

i will use windows xp, maybe windows 7 later
please leave a comment, ill be happy:)



I see you're choosing most of you're stuff from a Norwegian(?) site. I assume you're in Norway? I don't think Newegg ships overseas ;)


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komj   06-02-2009 at 06:02:01 PM
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im buyung all from amentio but since the motherboard had norwegian description i just found it on an international site:)

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drunknmunkys   06-02-2009 at 06:32:19 PM
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komj wrote :

im buyung all from amentio but since the motherboard had norwegian description i just found it on an international site:)



You've chosen a very nice CPU, DDR3 which will be good for the future, great single card GPU.

That PSU should be plenty, you might be able to step it down to 600W since you're not going multiple GPUs.

If you plan on OCing to a real degree you NEED an aftermarket cooler. Xigmatek and Schythe Mugen make excellent coolers.

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komj   06-02-2009 at 07:04:30 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

You've chosen a very nice CPU, DDR3 which will be good for the future, great single card GPU.

That PSU should be plenty, you might be able to step it down to 600W since you're not going multiple GPUs.

If you plan on OCing to a real degree you NEED an aftermarket cooler. Xigmatek and Schythe Mugen make excellent coolers.



ah ok thanks mate for the advise.
but 700 w dont harm right:P its only like 10$ difference between the 600 and 700 w:)
gonna check out those coolers:)

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komj   06-02-2009 at 07:05:25 PM
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thaoval wrote :

arctic freezer 7 pro FTW!



will check it out :D

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thaoval   06-02-2009 at 07:14:09 PM
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no, thats lga 775 im sorry, i only saw the links and assumed you went for core 2 duo >_<

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komj   06-02-2009 at 07:23:41 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

You've chosen a very nice CPU, DDR3 which will be good for the future, great single card GPU.

 

That PSU should be plenty, you might be able to step it down to 600W since you're not going multiple GPUs.

 

If you plan on OCing to a real degree you NEED an aftermarket cooler. Xigmatek and Schythe Mugen make excellent coolers.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] SCKTN-3000
will that work?:)


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komj   06-02-2009 at 07:24:42 PM
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thaoval wrote :

no, thats lga 775 im sorry, i only saw the links and assumed you went for core 2 duo >_<


np mate:)

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drunknmunkys   06-02-2009 at 07:34:03 PM
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http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 98;c:36231

Based on what they have (no sunbeam, no xigmatek, no schythe mugen 2 in stock) I'd get that one.

Heres a review.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/scythe_zipang/

the ninja mini is made for HTPCs, and the angled one seems gimicky to me.

Norwegian looks awesome btw. Congrats on having a cool looking alphabet.

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komj   06-02-2009 at 07:49:25 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 98;c:36231

 

Based on what they have (no sunbeam, no xigmatek, no schythe mugen 2 in stock) I'd get that one.

 

Heres a review.

 

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/scythe_zipang/

 

the ninja mini is made for HTPCs, and the angled one seems gimicky to me.

 

Norwegian looks awesome btw. Congrats on having a cool looking alphabet.

 

ok thanks very much mate:) will read that review,

 

its am2+ but it still fits to am3 right?


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komj   06-02-2009 at 07:57:27 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

http://www.amentio.no/PartDetail.a [...] 98;c:36231

 

Based on what they have (no sunbeam, no xigmatek, no schythe mugen 2 in stock) I'd get that one.

 

Heres a review.

 

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/scythe_zipang/

 

the ninja mini is made for HTPCs, and the angled one seems gimicky to me.

 

Norwegian looks awesome btw. Congrats on having a cool looking alphabet.

 

just read the review it lookd nice and solid, ill go for that one.

 

do you know how much i can overclock the processor with this fan?


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drunknmunkys   06-03-2009 at 03:46:54 PM
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komj wrote :

BUMP



It's usually not dependant on the particular cooler, as long as its good.

I don't have experience with the 955, I've got a 720. Look around and read some reviews on it. Usually with AMD BE chips the OC simply involves:

1) upping multiplyer
2) running prime 95 stress test
3) if stable, go to 1). if unstable, up the cpu voltage and go to 2)

repeat that until you get to the max voltage/your temps run too high. With my 720 the max voltage I want to take it to is 1.5V, so I'm only stable up to 3.6+GHz (from 2.8GHz). I didn't have a problem with temps, I never went above 51 degrees at full load even at 3.7+GHz and 1.55V (unstable).

Read the sticky in the OC forum for the basic concepts and a list of programs to use (CPUz, speedfan, etc).

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komj   06-03-2009 at 03:57:02 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

It's usually not dependant on the particular cooler, as long as its good.

I don't have experience with the 955, I've got a 720. Look around and read some reviews on it. Usually with AMD BE chips the OC simply involves:

1) upping multiplyer
2) running prime 95 stress test
3) if stable, go to 1). if unstable, up the cpu voltage and go to 2)

repeat that until you get to the max voltage/your temps run too high. With my 720 the max voltage I want to take it to is 1.5V, so I'm only stable up to 3.6+GHz (from 2.8GHz). I didn't have a problem with temps, I never went above 51 degrees at full load even at 3.7+GHz and 1.55V (unstable).

Read the sticky in the OC forum for the basic concepts and a list of programs to use (CPUz, speedfan, etc).



thanks mate:) i will try it :D but else then that my build works and its good right. i rly appreciate ur help :)

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drunknmunkys   06-03-2009 at 04:24:50 PM
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Looks good to me. Grats on your new computer!

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komj   06-03-2009 at 04:47:30 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

Looks good to me. Grats on your new computer!



ty mate:D should i get a vapor x or toxic hd4890 instead?

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drunknmunkys   06-03-2009 at 07:04:29 PM
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http://www.pureoverclock.com/revie [...] 56&page=17

review of the 4890 vapor x (think the vapor-x and toxic are the same thing - the vapor-x is the new cooling system)

If you can afford it, I don't see why not. Doesn't look to be that more expensive that the regular OC version, and it's always nicer to have a cooler running gpu. Like the AMD CPUs, the limiting factor seems to be voltage, not temperatire. I didn't see it on your parts site though.

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komj   06-03-2009 at 07:07:56 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

http://www.pureoverclock.com/revie [...] 56&page=17

 

review of the 4890 vapor x (think the vapor-x and toxic are the same thing - the vapor-x is the new cooling system)

 

If you can afford it, I don't see why not. Doesn't look to be that more expensive that the regular OC version, and it's always nicer to have a cooler running gpu. Like the AMD CPUs, the limiting factor seems to be voltage, not temperatire. I didn't see it on your parts site though.

 

the toxic were abit more powerfull it had 950 core clock or something and the vapor x had 860.
the vapor were morequiet,
the toxic requied a 6 and a 8 pin power supply do my psu have a 8 pin?
# 1 x 6+2-pin PCI-E not quite sure what that means is it an 8?
which do u think i should pick? theyre about the same price.

 

on a site whith those tho gpus it said that the toxic had "vapor x and heatsinks" and the vapor x gpu only "had vapor x" cooling system
and vapor x gpu had DL-DVI, DP, HDMI, VGA ports.
whats dp?

 

srry for being a noob with computers hehe:P


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drunknmunkys   06-03-2009 at 07:59:04 PM
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102840

Toxic

Core Clock 960MHz
Memory Clock 1050MHz
Power Connector 6 pin / 8 pin


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102841

Vapor-x

Core Clock 870MHz
Memory Clock 1050MHz
Power Connector 2 x 6 Pin

You were right, they're are different :P

Neither have any reviews yet, which might make he hesitate to go for one for a few weeks. Let somebody else test em out first ;) Unless I missed something they seems to be just slightly overclocked with new cooling technology. I'm not sure it makes much of a difference. Sapphire is a good ATI brand, they have a long history together, and most people seem to be able to OC their 4890s to ~1GHz Core/1.2GHz memory (or 975MHs/1.175MHs, but close enough) on stock voltage, so you don't need to pay a premium for that.

Your PSU has:

Quote :

Modular Connectors:

1 x 6-pin PCI-E
1 x 6+2-pin PCI-E
4 x Peripheral
2 x Floppy
6 x SATA



so I think you should be ok with either one, as long as you dont want to evey xfire (which you said you don't) or have any other PCI-E cards which need power; your 4890 will need both PCI-E connectors from your PSU.

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komj   06-04-2009 at 08:03:09 AM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102840

Toxic

Core Clock 960MHz
Memory Clock 1050MHz
Power Connector 6 pin / 8 pin


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102841

Vapor-x

Core Clock 870MHz
Memory Clock 1050MHz
Power Connector 2 x 6 Pin

You were right, they're are different :P

Neither have any reviews yet, which might make he hesitate to go for one for a few weeks. Let somebody else test em out first ;) Unless I missed something they seems to be just slightly overclocked with new cooling technology. I'm not sure it makes much of a difference. Sapphire is a good ATI brand, they have a long history together, and most people seem to be able to OC their 4890s to ~1GHz Core/1.2GHz memory (or 975MHs/1.175MHs, but close enough) on stock voltage, so you don't need to pay a premium for that.

Your PSU has:

Quote :

Modular Connectors:

1 x 6-pin PCI-E
1 x 6+2-pin PCI-E
4 x Peripheral
2 x Floppy
6 x SATA



so I think you should be ok with either one, as long as you dont want to evey xfire (which you said you don't) or have any other PCI-E cards which need power; your 4890 will need both PCI-E connectors from your PSU.



ok thanks, im gonna buy the toxic version :)
but do u have any suggestions what i can have in the pci 1x slot?

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drunknmunkys   06-04-2009 at 03:15:17 PM
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You could get a sound card, but unless you're hooking up your computer to a nice surround sound system it wont make a difference.

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komj   06-04-2009 at 06:48:31 PM
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drunknmunkys wrote :

You could get a sound card, but unless you're hooking up your computer to a nice surround sound system it wont make a difference.


ok

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