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June 3, 2009 8:32:46 AM

Price isn't much of a big deal, and I'd prefer to get Nvidia, but my question is, my monitor resolution is 1440x900, I may upgrade to a 24" monitor in a few months, what graphics card should I get?, I want the BEST possible performance, I'm getting a 750W PSU and the Antec 902 case, I would consider SLI if the performance is significantly better, I've been looking at the XFX GTX 295 which looks good, keep in mind price doesn't worry me too much, I just want the best performance I can get right now.
Intel Core i7-920 / 2.66GHz / 8MB Cache / LGA1366
Corsair TX-750 750W ATX Power Supply
Antec 902 Mid Tower Case
Asus P6T-DELUXE-V2 Intel Mainboard-6x DDR3/6x Sata Raid/Dual Gigabit Lan/LGA 1366
Corsair DDR3 6GB PC-12800/1600 (3x XMS3 2GB) TR3X6G1600C9 Ram
Those are the rest of the parts I've picked out, I'm pretty happy with them, it's just the graphics card that's giving me a headache.

EDIT:It might be helpful if I post what games I play:CoD4, CoD WaW, TF2, CSS, and that's all I play atm, but I'd like to play new releases at high settings with a great fps, and keep the machine futureproof.

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June 3, 2009 8:56:37 AM

Either change the monitor now itself with a 24" or change the graphics card to GTX 275

My suggestion would be 1x GTX 275 for now and when you change the monitor, get the second one in SLI...
A single GTX 275 would play all of the above games at highest settings at that resolution...
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-char...
June 3, 2009 9:00:34 AM

gkay09 said:
Either change the monitor now itself with a 24" or change the graphics card to GTX 275

My suggestion would be 1x GTX 275 for now and when you change the monitor, get the second one in SLI...
A single GTX 275 would play all of the above games at highest settings at that resolution...
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-char...

But would a GTX 285 or 295 perform even better?.
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June 3, 2009 9:06:30 AM

The GTX 295 would perform better but at this resolution you wont notice any significant difference...you would just be wasting the graphics power of the GTX 295
If it was a 1920x1200 and above screen, then certainly I would suggest the GTX 295...but not for this resolution...
You wouldn't want to simply waste your money would you ?

The GTX 285 and the GTX 275 offer similar performance for resolutions upto 1900X1200...So no point wasting extra cash on the GTX 285...

So I would say stick with a single GTX 275 for now and when you change the monitor, add one more GTX 275 in SLI...
June 3, 2009 9:20:15 AM

well IMO 4890 CF would be your best choice as they will cost about 429$ after mail in rebates but i didn't count the shipping.but there is only a problem that you will face is that you won't be able to TRI-CF because the space between the second slot and the third won't allow you to TRI_CF So IMO you should wait a little for the 4890x2 or get the gtx 295 so that you will be able to get another one in the future instead of changing the 2 cards

Edit: if you aren't going to change the monitor now then get a single 4890 not a single gtx 275 because the 4890 simply beats the gtx 275
June 3, 2009 9:24:13 AM

^ Hmm...The 4890 CF is a good option...
As for GTX 295 SLI, by the time he would require more graphics power, there would be newer DirectX 11 card, which would cost considerably less giving better performance...
So would he still be hunting for another GTX 295 ? I doubt that...
June 3, 2009 9:25:13 AM

gkay09 said:
The GTX 295 would perform better but at this resolution you wont notice any significant difference...you would just be wasting the graphics power of the GTX 295
If it was a 1920x1200 and above screen, then certainly I would suggest the GTX 295...but not for this resolution...
You wouldn't want to simply waste your money would you ?

The GTX 285 and the GTX 275 offer similar performance for resolutions upto 1900X1200...So no point wasting extra cash on the GTX 285...

So I would say stick with a single GTX 275 for now and when you change the monitor, add one more GTX 275 in SLI...


+1 for the gtx 275 suggestion.
June 3, 2009 9:34:54 AM

Of course get the GTX 295 if $500 is a just drop in the bucket. You also won't have to worry about the extra heat and fan noise with an SLI if you get one GTX 275 now and and another one for SLI later.

June 3, 2009 2:04:57 PM

vote for the 4890.

itll run with a GTX275 stock, then destroy it once overclocked. and with 1Gb of video memory you wont ever need a second card at that resolution. If you get a new monitor then grab a second card if you feel you need it which i doubt. Either way, both are good cards, just depends on what features your board supports and whether you plan to overclock.
June 3, 2009 2:18:50 PM

295 all the way...........
June 3, 2009 7:31:18 PM

+1 on the HD4890. It will destroy any and all games at that resolution, and you can throw in another one later when you get your new monitor, or use any new cards that may come out before then.
June 3, 2009 7:46:30 PM

i think get a GTX285, use some of the money you save from the GTX295 and get yourself a new monitor that is capable of doing 1920x1200
June 3, 2009 7:56:28 PM

+1 for the 275, then SLI later, the GTX295 will run hotter, and be harder to overclock because of heat. Having the 275 SLI will equal the performance of the 295, because that's what a 295 is, and the 295 atm would be overkill.
June 3, 2009 8:11:06 PM

single 4890 oc'ed to 1ghz for now then when ATi's DX11 cards come out at pretty much the DX11 launch I would guess, then buy one of those as they will probably come to about 85% of the GTX 295's performance on a single GPU.
June 4, 2009 8:15:02 AM

mindless728 said:
i think get a GTX285, use some of the money you save from the GTX295 and get yourself a new monitor that is capable of doing 1920x1200

Yeah I'm looking at the GTX 285, probably will end up getting that. As I said I'd prefer Nvidia, and I can't wait for the 4890x2, I have to buy it before the end of June. What doe's everyone think of one GTX 285 now, and SLI later if I get a bigger monitor?
June 4, 2009 9:20:20 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Still GTX 275 is the best option...

But if you want to spend about $100 more for just 4-5 FPS increase, then its fine...your money - your wish...
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-char...

So SLi 275 beats SLi 285?. And before I forget, is 750W enough power for SLi 275?
June 4, 2009 9:27:46 AM

I just checked and the GTX 285 is 200 dollars cheaper than getting 2 GTX 275's.
June 4, 2009 9:46:54 AM

The comparison chart that I had given before is between 1 GTX 275 and 1 GTX 285 and not 2x GTX 275 and 1 GTX 285...

And 1 GTX 275 is about $80 to $100 cheaper than 1 GTX 285...
Cheapest GTX 285 on newegg - $329
Cheapest GTX 275 on newegg - $229

And that Corsair 750W is more than suffice for 2x GTX 275...
June 4, 2009 11:04:03 AM

gkay09 said:
The comparison chart that I had given before is between 1 GTX 275 and 1 GTX 285 and not 2x GTX 275 and 1 GTX 285...

And 1 GTX 275 is about $80 to $100 cheaper than 1 GTX 285...
Cheapest GTX 285 on newegg - $329
Cheapest GTX 275 on newegg - $229

And that Corsair 750W is more than suffice for 2x GTX 275...

I'm buying from centrecom.com.au, cheapest GTX 275:$393
cheapest GTX 285:$553. But as I said, 2 GTX 275's are $786, instead of 1 GTX 285 for $553. I'm a little confused. Any benchmarks for GTX 275 SLi vs single GTX 285?
June 4, 2009 11:33:02 AM

2 GTX 275 is the same as the GTX 295... and its performance cannot be compared to a single GTX 285...
But for the 1900X1200 resolution, you just wont notice any significant difference between 2x GTX 275 and 2x GTX 285...
Check this TOM's review of the GTX 275SLI compared with GTX 295...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-sli,229...
June 4, 2009 11:42:23 AM

Actually you can get maximum performance at that 1920x1200 resolution with 2x GTX 260 itself...
The GTX 295 and GTX 275/285 SLI is only required if you have a 30" monitor with 2560x1600 resolution

And spending anything above 2x GTX 275/ GTX 295 for that resolution is waste of money that could have been spent elsewhere...
June 4, 2009 12:41:04 PM

gkay09 said:
Actually you can get maximum performance at that 1920x1200 resolution with 2x GTX 260 itself...
The GTX 295 and GTX 275/285 SLI is only required if you have a 30" monitor with 2560x1600 resolution

And spending anything above 2x GTX 275/ GTX 295 for that resolution is waste of money that could have been spent elsewhere...

Alright, so a GTX 275 then? or a 285?
June 4, 2009 12:45:11 PM

GTX 275 no doubt...
June 4, 2009 12:48:03 PM

For your current 1440x900 resolution, you can play most of the current games at the highest settings with the GTX 275...
When you change the monitor to a 1920x1200, you would be adding one more GTX 275 and still you will be playing at highest settings :p ...
June 5, 2009 5:48:35 AM

gkay09 said:
For your current 1440x900 resolution, you can play most of the current games at the highest settings with the GTX 275...
When you change the monitor to a 1920x1200, you would be adding one more GTX 275 and still you will be playing at highest settings :p ...

Alright man, I hope you're right because I'm going down to the shop to see whats the best price they can do etc.
June 5, 2009 6:36:55 AM

After you get the card, you will know if I was right or wrong :) 
June 5, 2009 8:05:15 AM

gkay09 said:
After you get the card, you will know if I was right or wrong :) 

I'm pretty happy with the benchmarks, and your word, so I'm sure it will be awesome!. Great news all!, went to the shop and my dad put down a deposit, picking it up next week!, here is the FINAL parts list:
CPU:Intel core i7 920
GPU:Gtx 275(EVGA)
Case:Antec 902
PSU:Corsair 850W
Ram:Corsair 6GB 1600mhz
Mobo:Asus P6t Deluxe V2
Headset:Creative fatal1ty gaming headset (I've been using my friends and I love it)
Keyboard:Logitech G15
Hard drive:1.5tb Seagate SATA (Overkill for me tbh)
Speakers:Logitech X540 5.1 surround(Was on special)
Dvd burner:Sony 20x burner(It was 39 bucks so w/e)
In total $2,500 AUD.
June 5, 2009 11:30:02 AM

Hi...Nice setup...but I have heard that the 1.5TB Seagate drives had firmware problems...But news is around that it has been fixed...
But if I were you I wouldnt take chances with the primary drive and I would buy the WD Black 1TB instead...
It is faster than the 1.5TB Seagate and I guess 1TB should be suffice for you...wont it?...

As for the DVD drives, get the sata version and not the IDE...
June 5, 2009 11:38:03 AM

And you can also change the PSU to Corsair 750TX as 750W is suffice for a GTX 275 SLI...850TX is not required IMO...
June 6, 2009 1:32:05 AM

gkay09 said:
And you can also change the PSU to Corsair 750TX as 750W is suffice for a GTX 275 SLI...850TX is not required IMO...

Not even if I Sli gtx 275's and max out the Hard drives and dvd drives?. And about the 1.5tb Seagate, my dad has bought 6 from the same shop, and has had no problem, we store EVERYTHING on those drives and have never run into any problems, 1tb would be more than enough for me, but my dad probably only bought it so he can steal it off me hehe.

EDIT:I just remembered why I got the 850, it was like 30 dollars more than the 750, so I thought why not?.
June 6, 2009 4:02:06 PM

JDogg said:
Price isn't much of a big deal, and I'd prefer to get Nvidia, but my question is, my monitor resolution is 1440x900, I may upgrade to a 24" monitor in a few months, what graphics card should I get?, I want the BEST possible performance, I'm getting a 750W PSU and the Antec 902 case, I would consider SLI if the performance is significantly better, I've been looking at the XFX GTX 295 which looks good, keep in mind price doesn't worry me too much, I just want the best performance I can get right now.
Intel Core i7-920 / 2.66GHz / 8MB Cache / LGA1366
Corsair TX-750 750W ATX Power Supply
Antec 902 Mid Tower Case
Asus P6T-DELUXE-V2 Intel Mainboard-6x DDR3/6x Sata Raid/Dual Gigabit Lan/LGA 1366
Corsair DDR3 6GB PC-12800/1600 (3x XMS3 2GB) TR3X6G1600C9 Ram
Those are the rest of the parts I've picked out, I'm pretty happy with them, it's just the graphics card that's giving me a headache.

EDIT:It might be helpful if I post what games I play:CoD4, CoD WaW, TF2, CSS, and that's all I play atm, but I'd like to play new releases at high settings with a great fps, and keep the machine futureproof.


Why are you buying 1600mhz ram on a motherboard that only supports 1333mhz ram? I mean you can over-clock the motherboard to support to 2000mhz but the question is are you willing to do that? If you dont plan on overlock your motherboard then save some money and buy 1333mhz ram because the 1600mhz will be bottleneck anyway.
June 6, 2009 4:09:51 PM

And for you 24'' monitor, if it supports 1920x1200 which it most likely does, then I think a GTX260 with 216 cores or a GTX275 will do perfect and will max out any game except for maybe Crysis or Company of heroes.
June 6, 2009 5:01:51 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Why are you buying 1600mhz ram on a motherboard that only supports 1333mhz ram? I mean you can over-clock the motherboard to support to 2000mhz but the question is are you willing to do that? If you dont plan on overlock your motherboard then save some money and buy 1333mhz ram because the 1600mhz will be bottleneck anyway.


???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Extreme 16+2 phase power w/ SLI and CrossfireX

Memory Standard: DDR3 2000(O.C)/1866(O.C)/1800(O.C)/1600(O.C)/1333
June 6, 2009 5:49:20 PM

Definitely a water-cooled 4890, and plug another one in when you get a new monitor. :) 
June 7, 2009 1:35:29 AM

Why_ME...I did not understand what you are trying to say?
June 7, 2009 2:32:39 AM

blackhawk1928 said:
Why_ME...I did not understand what you are trying to say?

The mobo supports 1600.
June 7, 2009 3:24:00 AM

no it doesn't...it onyl supports it with overclocking! If you read my post you would know that I said that it supports it with overclocking only but without overclocking only 1333mhz is supported
June 7, 2009 4:49:56 AM

blackhawk1928 said:
no it doesn't...it onyl supports it with overclocking! If you read my post you would know that I said that it supports it with overclocking only but without overclocking only 1333mhz is supported

Ohh I see, well then I'll just have to run at 1333 until I overclock.
June 7, 2009 6:25:54 AM

I believe that to 1333mhz needs an OC aswell, just push the memory multiplier up to 10x for 1333mhz or 12x for 1600mhz.
June 7, 2009 10:11:02 AM

Helloworld_98 said:
I believe that to 1333mhz needs an OC aswell, just push the memory multiplier up to 10x for 1333mhz or 12x for 1600mhz.

So when I first get the pc, and plug it in, what speed will the ram be running at?
June 7, 2009 2:40:02 PM

1333mhz, even if its 1600mhz, the supported speed on the motherboard will just throttle the ram down to 1333mhz.
June 7, 2009 2:43:07 PM

^ actually 1066mhz, as the memory starts at 8x the 133mhz base which is 1066mhz, then you push it up to 10x for 1333mhz and overclock to 160 base for 1600mhz ram.

then lower the multiplier after that for higher base Overclocks.
June 8, 2009 4:08:08 AM

@JDogg You dont have to worry much about how to set the RAM speed to the advertised speeds and CAS...I think the Corsair and most of the brands comes with XMP profiles, which allows you to set the RAM speed on WIN itself and you don't have to meddle with the BIOS for that...

And as for the PSU, if you have already bought it, then no probs...
And as for the HDD, if you feel that the 1.5TB is not bad, then go for it...but the WD Black 1TB is sure faster than that drive...
June 8, 2009 11:14:33 AM

gkay09 said:
@JDogg You dont have to worry much about how to set the RAM speed to the advertised speeds and CAS...I think the Corsair and most of the brands comes with XMP profiles, which allows you to set the RAM speed on WIN itself and you don't have to meddle with the BIOS for that...

And as for the PSU, if you have already bought it, then no probs...
And as for the HDD, if you feel that the 1.5TB is not bad, then go for it...but the WD Black 1TB is sure faster than that drive...

Ok, doesn't sound too hard. The hard drive is fine, as I said my dad uses 6 and has no probs, I don't care much for speed, as long as its faster than my IDE drive haha.
June 9, 2009 4:54:17 AM

But check the RAM before you buy...See if they have the XMP profile options...
As some of the RAMs dont have them...
And yes that 1.5TB would be faster than the IDE :p 
!