Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Help me choose which scenario to go with

Last response: in Systems
Share
Anonymous
June 3, 2009 3:00:36 PM

I have 5 options listed below in random order. My budget is about $700. I could possibly stretch it to $750 (but thats it). I have other existing parts not listed here to complete the build. I am planning on using the evaluation of windows 7. Is that a good idea or not? Since this is a new build, I am personally leaning towards one of the ddr3 setups, since ddr3 is the future. I currently have 8800gt, and I will be using a resolution of 1920 x 1200. If I choose options 1 through 3, I basically have $200 to spend for a new video card. If I choose option 4 or 5, I will have to use my existing 8800gt for about 6 to 9 months before I have enough to upgrade it. Please give me your thoughts in these 5 different systems. Thank you

Option #1- (ddr2 setup) $530
CPU- Phenom II X4 940 - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO- GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache - $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE- Antec Nine Hundred- $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Option #2- (ddr3 setup) $490
CPU- Phenom II X2 550- $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO- ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache - $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE- Antec Nine Hundred- $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Option #3 (ddr3 setup) $520
CPU- Phenom II X3 720- $140
MOBO- ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache - $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE- Antec Nine Hundred- $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Option #4 (ddr3 setup) $625
CPU- Phenom II X4 955- $245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO- ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache - $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE- Antec Nine Hundred- $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Option #5 (ddr2 setup) $585
CPU- Phenom II X4 955- $245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO- GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache - $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE- Antec Nine Hundred- $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



More about : choose scenario

Anonymous
June 4, 2009 2:29:14 AM

Does anyone have any thoughts?
June 4, 2009 3:35:26 AM

buy the best one you can afford , preferably AM3/ddr3
Related resources
Anonymous
June 4, 2009 3:39:05 AM

did you even read my post, they are all in my budget, but all a little different
June 4, 2009 4:01:29 AM

I would choose option #5. If you went with another mobo & ram on #4 then maybe #4 but to me 4 memory slots on DDR3 is just plain stupid. Besides with your build with #4 only has 2 sticks which may actually give you less performance that quicker DDR2.

Also if that will be your only harddrive then I suggest getting a larger one.
June 4, 2009 4:04:08 AM

Hey I am no expert at all but i have a post up right now for a new build and i was suggested to go with pretty much your 4th setup and i had a few replies with suggestions. I use my computer mainly for gaming.

maybe add what you are going to be using the computer for...that might help others to give you some suggestion.

Hope this helps?
Anonymous
June 4, 2009 4:08:28 AM

Jacks_85 said:
Hey I am no expert at all but i have a post up right now for a new build and i was suggested to go with pretty much your 4th setup and i had a few replies with suggestions. I use my computer mainly for gaming.

maybe add what you are going to be using the computer for...that might help others to give you some suggestion.

Hope this helps?


1- gaming, 2- streaming audio and video to ps3 in different room, 3- home video editing (very little)
Anonymous
June 4, 2009 4:10:46 AM

NuclearShadow said:
I would choose option #5. If you went with another mobo & ram on #4 then maybe #4 but to me 4 memory slots on DDR3 is just plain stupid. Besides with your build with #4 only has 2 sticks which may actually give you less performance that quicker DDR2.

Also if that will be your only harddrive then I suggest getting a larger one.


1- I was actually thinking of a bigger hard drive anyway
2- What would be a better mobo/ram kit to go with this.

#4 is actually what I am leaning towards the most
June 4, 2009 9:23:38 AM

Ok once again I am no expert on this...so i am really taking what others have said to me and trying to apply it to you.

keep DDR3 since many expert on this forum has said DDR2 is getting out dated

hard drive space really depends on how much you personally need. for myself i have chosen 640g but if you think you need more go ahead with it

here is the build i went with:

CPU: PII X4 955 302GHz
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6819103674

MOBO: ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6813131366

RAM: OCZ platinum 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820227297

GPU: HIS RADEON HD 4850 (TWO)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814161259

HDD: WD 640GB 7200RPM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6822136319

PSU: Antec EA 650w
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817371015

CASE: ANTEC 900
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6811129021

ignor the price b/c they are in CAD

and i have PM a guy that was helping me on my build to have a look at your thread!
June 4, 2009 9:42:16 AM

Quote:
did you even read my post, they are all in my budget, but all a little different


yes I did read your post .

I also think you need to learn how to make a decision for your self
June 4, 2009 10:04:32 AM

i think he is just trying to get some expert feedback to help himself make the right decision.

June 4, 2009 1:12:23 PM

Hi...For your requirements I feel you should be investing more on the graphics front...
But you have not listed what PSU you have...

If I were you and would mainly use the PC for gaming, then my choice would be the
Option 3:
Reason -
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3533&p=1
And as you would be having about $200 for the graphics, I would get 2x 4850(Preferably 4770 but its hard to find them now) in crossfire, which would cost you less than a single 4890 and would considerably perform very well...
But this also depends more on the power supply you have...You should have atleast a good quality 600W PSU for 4850 crossfire...

If you are tight on the budget, then could actually save some cash on the case by going with the CM 690 or Antec 300...
If you go with Antec 300, you could save about $45.

Here is one more Option for you...

CPU - $245
X4 955
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $85
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - Same - $65

Case - Antec 300 - $55

HDD - Same - $75

Graphics card - $230
HD 4890
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - $755
Reason why I had chosen that mobo is because you wont be needing crossfire as that HD 4890 is suffice for that resolution...And it also has good overclocking options and newer SB710 rather than the old SB700...
And by the time you would need more graphics power, there will be newer DirectX 11 cards and obviously you wont be searching for a HD 4890 then for crossfire...
Just my two cents...
June 4, 2009 2:15:08 PM

Outlander_04 said:
yes I did read your post .

I also think you need to learn how to make a decision for your self


The whole point of these forums is to get advice when needed. If you cant help with positive feedback, then please stay out.
June 4, 2009 2:15:52 PM

Jacks_85 said:
i think he is just trying to get some expert feedback to help himself make the right decision.


correct, thank you
June 4, 2009 3:25:30 PM

gkay09 said:
Hi...For your requirements I feel you should be investing more on the graphics front...
But you have not listed what PSU you have...

If I were you and would mainly use the PC for gaming, then my choice would be the
Option 3:
Reason -
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3533&p=1
And as you would be having about $200 for the graphics, I would get 2x 4850(Preferably 4770 but its hard to find them now) in crossfire, which would cost you less than a single 4890 and would considerably perform very well...
But this also depends more on the power supply you have...You should have atleast a good quality 600W PSU for 4850 crossfire...

If you are tight on the budget, then could actually save some cash on the case by going with the CM 690 or Antec 300...
If you go with Antec 300, you could save about $45.

Here is one more Option for you...

CPU - $245
X4 955
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $85
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - Same - $65

Case - Antec 300 - $55

HDD - Same - $75

Graphics card - $230
HD 4890
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - $755
Reason why I had chosen that mobo is because you wont be needing crossfire as that HD 4890 is suffice for that resolution...And it also has good overclocking options and newer SB710 rather than the old SB700...
And by the time you would need more graphics power, there will be newer DirectX 11 cards and obviously you wont be searching for a HD 4890 then for crossfire...
Just my two cents...


This sounds really good. I like this setup. I have one question though. Could you explain the southbridge? I have seen other post where people said make sure you get a 750 southbridge.
June 4, 2009 4:31:44 PM

^ iirc the 750SB only comes with the 785G and most 790 series chipsets.

but unless you want ACC then the 710 is fine.
June 4, 2009 4:57:24 PM

rudy2112 said:
This sounds really good. I like this setup. I have one question though. Could you explain the southbridge? I have seen other post where people said make sure you get a 750 southbridge.


Hi, I'm also a beginner, and I just had a new build plan close to your #3 option with others help including gkay09.

I heard that the old 770/780 MB with SB700 South Bridge don't OC well, the newer 770/780 MB with SB710 South Bridge have better OC ability, and 790 MB with SB750 OC the best.

The OC ability is important when you're getting a Phenom 720, and I am also trying to decide to get a 790 MB or 780 with SB710. Right now, none of them has free shipping on newegg, so I will wait a couple more days.

Here is my thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

Hope it can help.
June 4, 2009 8:58:08 PM

Thank you all for your help. I just placed my order. Here is the final build

TOTAL= $525
I still need to order a video card. What is my best option with this setup for $200 (no sli or crossfire setup)

CPU- $255
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO- $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM- $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD- $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE- $55
Antec 300




June 4, 2009 10:51:12 PM

rudy2112, did your Antex300 have free shipping? Newegg doesn't give free shipping on Antex300 now.
Please let me know because I am going to order it too. Thanks.
June 4, 2009 11:05:25 PM

beef1218 said:
rudy2112, did your Antex300 have free shipping? Newegg doesn't give free shipping on Antex300 now.
Please let me know because I am going to order it too. Thanks.


no, I actually ordered a combo deal. A friend of mine was looking to buy a new power supply, so I bought this. He will pay me for the power supply, and he and I are going to split the combo savings.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
June 4, 2009 11:26:01 PM

I see. Thanks.
I just ordered it from buy.com. $58.05 and $4.55 for 2-day shipping.
I would have paid $15 for shipping if I have ordered it from newegg.
June 5, 2009 2:13:53 AM

Hey rudy glad you have chose your build! very much like mine!

June 5, 2009 2:36:04 AM

Jacks_85 said:
Hey rudy glad you have chose your build! very much like mine!


Yeah, cant wait to get it and put it together. I am glad I finally ordered. I have been reading and researching for like 6 days straight. Now just need a video card.
June 5, 2009 4:17:37 AM

Here is a good deal on HD 4890 from ewiz.com - $207
But not free shipping...
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-4890_1G&c=fr&pid=ae...

newegg has the same card with free shipping for about $229
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or
If you want GTX 275,
newegg - free shipping for nabout $239
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

about $224/9 at ewiz.com again no free shipping...
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=BFG-GTX275
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=GA-GTX275
June 5, 2009 6:31:12 PM

I just bought the 4890. Thanks again guys. I will give some feedback some time next week when I get it together.
June 9, 2009 11:28:47 PM

I just received my stuff today. I just thought of another question. My case (antec 300) comes with 2 fans. I dont plan on doing any overclocking, should I add any additional fans?
June 9, 2009 11:31:41 PM

As a suggestion, check out RealTemp (free program, Goggle it) to see the temperature readings for the CPU and GPU

From there, if you need more cooling, more fans couldn't hurt
June 9, 2009 11:34:01 PM

One more thing...

Good luck and have fun with the build!
June 9, 2009 11:40:13 PM

Thanks, actually I have to wait until tomorrow (hopefully) not everything came today. I still need my mobo, and video card. I ordered them 1 day later than the other parts.
June 10, 2009 7:18:30 AM

nice nice rudy let me know how you do!

I am getting most of my parts tomorrow except for my cpu heatsink which will be thursday. Can't wait to put together my first build!

June 11, 2009 8:50:43 PM

Hey, I received all my parts, got it together. All went smooth. No problems. I installed windows 7. I dont have much experience with vista. My last os was xp. I messed around a few times with vista on other pc's, but not my own. So far I like the look and feel. Have not installed any games yet. I did install 3dmark vantage. Here is the scores.
3DMark- P8606
GPU- 8032
CPU- 10955

This was my first build. I have replaced many parts before, but never mobo, or cpu. I took my time, and all went smooth. It was a lot of fun. Now it is time to load some games, and programs.

Thanks to all of you for your help. I really appreciated it.....
June 12, 2009 8:26:09 AM

nice! i put mine together too running smooth like yours but i am going to try OCing so we'll see how that goes!

still missing my crossfire bridge...it didin't come with my stupid GPUs can't believe that but will try some games as soon as i get the other card in!

!