AMD socket 939 athlon processor 3800 + 2.4ghz

[emaluzer]

This is the processor I currently have, just a few questions regarding it. I was wondering if this is an upgrade from the pentium 4 2.9 ghz processor I had in a dell dimension 3100 as far as performance for games and multi-tasking

Also what would be a suggested upgrade for this processor staying with the same Mobo and the socket 939, and where may be the least expensive place to get it.


Also in my bios the temp shows 145F And there is a large cooler master fan on the heat sink, and the heat sink doesnt feel hot to the touch. Is it possible the temp isnt accurate, There are no problems noticed with the pc that is what makes me believe the temp is wrong, or do they normally run hot?

If I upgrade to a dual core will I need a better heatsink and fan?

Im new to this forum, and would appreciate any helpful advice

 

[emaluzer]

also I have an asustek Nagami mobo with 2gb ram and a 600 w psu

 

[Gulli]

No, it won't be much of an upgrade, but there are Athlon X2 dual cores for your socket, that would be a major upgrade, just by a "boxed" version and you'll get a new heatsink and fan.

 

[swifty_morgan]

The poster above must be thinking of AM2 processors........... they won't work on your 939 mother board. Both set ups you listed are very dated and low performers compared to today's hardware. Save your money.

 

[mindless728]

only get a S939 athlon X2 if the price is really good, though from what i have looked at they are not cheap

you may be better off getting a new mobo, cpu, ram

 

[Gulli]

The poster above must be thinking of AM2 processors........... they won't work on your 939 mother board. Both set ups you listed are very dated and low performers compared to today's hardware. Save your money.

Nope: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=141&type=expert

 

[Gulli]

only get a S939 athlon X2 if the price is really good, though from what i have looked at they are not cheap

you may be better off getting a new mobo, cpu, ram

A valid point, try to get it secondhand.

 

[kyosho]

I bought a 939 3600+ x2 for about fifty bucks. The 3600+ is a lot cheaper than it's brothers because of it's smaller cache size. In the real world it doesn't make a big difference. Then I put a twenty buck cooler on it and have it overclocked to 2.6 ghz. It was a huge upgrade from my 3.0 ghz single core. I'm running it with 2gigs of ddr1 at 440 mhz and an 8800gt video card. I have one of the odd motherboards with a couple of pci express slots. My system plays modern games fairly well on my 1680 by 1050 screen. Hope this was helpful.

 

[swifty_morgan]

Nope: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=141&type=expert

Hard to believe you can still get those............ really wacky pricing for a dinosaur. I still wouldn't waste my money on such an old system.

 

[Gulli]

Hard to believe you can still get those............ really wacky pricing for a dinosaur. I still wouldn't waste my money on such an old system.

Yeah, but you can probably get one secondhand for 20 bucks.

 

[pete3867]

yeah , I went from a skt 939 3600 x2 to an am2 athlon 7750 , x2 @3ghz , and although there is a difference in performance it isnt a huge leap , so if I were you I would get a 3600 x2 or higher if possible , but , as mentioned the 3600 is very capable processor , and it isnt a dinosaur if it does what you want it too , I never came accross anything it couldnt handle in day to day computing , casual gaming , photoshop etc

 

[swifty_morgan]

Yeah, but you can probably get one secondhand for 20 bucks.

A joke there right ? Nobody is going to find any 939 processor for $20. They go for a premium now because they are extremely hard to get. I have a few dual core 939's. Used I wouldn't part with them for $200 let alone $20.

And yes, they still have their uses but for people like me they ARE dinosaurs in comparison to newer hardware and ARE extremely slow for what I do. When you guys get around to truly updating to your next platforms you'll say "how the heck did I even use that crap" ?

 

[mindless728]

Yeah, but you can probably get one secondhand for 20 bucks.

second hand is still very expensive for the performance, i think the S939 Athlon X2 4800+ goes for about $200 on ebay
lets not even talk about S939 FX-60 prices

also the memory is expensive now as well since it uses DDR (not 2 or 3), 2GB(2x1GB) can easily cost $50-60

its actually cheaper to get a mATX board, a new processor, and new memory than it is to upgrade to a good S939 athlon X2 and go to 4GB of DDR ram

 

[Gulli]

second hand is still very expensive for the performance, i think the S939 Athlon X2 4800+ goes for about $200 on ebay
lets not even talk about S939 FX-60 prices

also the memory is expensive now as well since it uses DDR (not 2 or 3), 2GB(2x1GB) can easily cost $50-60

its actually cheaper to get a mATX board, a new processor, and new memory than it is to upgrade to a good S939 athlon X2 and go to 4GB of DDR ram

Yeah, and ebay is full of greedy bastards trying to rip you off, there are plenty of community's where people are selling there obsolete rigs and parts for el cheapo.

 

[mindless728]

Yeah, and ebay is full of greedy bastards trying to rip you off, there are plenty of community's where people are selling there obsolete rigs and parts for el cheapo.

links please, as my server is a S939 system

 

[swifty_morgan]

That should put a cork in it, LOL.

 

[emaluzer]

Thanks everyone for your advice!!!!!

Just wondering about the temp tho mentioned in my first post, is it high or is it an error?

 

[masterasia]

This was my first dual core processor. I bought it used for almost $200 when it first came out. I use it today in my file server. I have it overclocked at 2.3 GHz. That's the most I can go. It's not a good overclocker.

As for it being an upgrade to your P4 2.9 GHz? Yes, I think it is a worthy upgrade. P4s where on their last leg when these processors came out because it put AMD in first place for a couple of months. 2 physical cores vs 2 virtual cores are always better in my mind.

 

[emaluzer]

Question, one person said the amd 3600+ x2 was a socket 939, I can only seem to find it in socket AM2, true or false???? and I hear conflicting reports, does AM2 work in socket 939?

 

[Gulli]

links please, as my server is a S939 system

I live in the Netherlands and I found this on a Belgian site: http://www.2dehands.be/computer-game-consoles/computersystemen/amd-64/?p=be-15

Also: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-259864_10_0.html , http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3972391 (1 php = 0.01 euro), http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Stuff-for-Sale-computers-software-Computer-Guts-W0QQAdIdZ147746270

And look at that: http://cgi.ebay.nl/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-3800-Dual-Core-Socket-939-Toledo_W0QQitemZ220477413169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33557a5731&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177#ht_833wt_939 , http://cgi.ebay.nl/AMD-ATHLON-64-X2-3800-939-PIN-ADA3800DAA5CD-Dual-Core_W0QQitemZ230352165829QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a20f1bc5&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 , http://cgi.ebay.nl/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-Socket-939-3800_W0QQitemZ260472294676QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ca55bcd14&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177#ht_500wt_1182

 

[swifty_morgan]

Question, one person said the amd 3600+ x2 was a socket 939, I can only seem to find it in socket AM2, true or false???? and I hear conflicting reports, does AM2 work in socket 939?

Look at my first post towards the top of the page................ NO.......... it won't work. As far as getting a "faster" 939 to replace the one you have......... don't WASTE your money....... you won't be happy.

Either invest in the soon to be obsolete 775 processors ( which will totally blow your mind in comparison ....)........and which will cost you less than finding the "new" 939 processor ( 775 mobo/proc/memory ) ............... or do nothing.

 

[4745454b]

AFAIK, 3600+ was AM2 only. I never heard of it on the S939. Used S939 dual cores go for $50-80 on [H]ardOCPs FSFT forum. Every now and then someone unloads an x2 3800 for $40, but not often. I think there was an opteron 165 on there (1.8GHz x2) for $45, but I'm sure its gone now. The 4200 seems to go for $70+ I haven't seen anyone try to unload a 4400/4800.

With prices like these, getting out of S939 is a smart move. People are still looking for S939 boards, so getting $50 for that isn't unheard of. Why shell out $70 for a 3800 if you can pay the same or less for a modern (new) CPU? Pony up a bit more money for the motherboard (the $50 + ???) and $50 for 4GBs of ram, and you'll have a much better setup for just a bit more. And a new CPU instead of an old/used one.

 

[mindless728]

I live in the Netherlands and I found this on a Belgian site: http://www.2dehands.be/computer-game-consoles/computersystemen/amd-64/?p=be-15

Also: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-259864_10_0.html , http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3972391 (1 php = 0.01 euro), http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Stuff-for-Sale-computers-software-Computer-Guts-W0QQAdIdZ147746270

And look at that: http://cgi.ebay.nl/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-3800-Dual-Core-Socket-939-Toledo_W0QQitemZ220477413169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33557a5731&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177#ht_833wt_939 , http://cgi.ebay.nl/AMD-ATHLON-64-X2-3800-939-PIN-ADA3800DAA5CD-Dual-Core_W0QQitemZ230352165829QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a20f1bc5&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 , http://cgi.ebay.nl/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-Socket-939-3800_W0QQitemZ260472294676QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ca55bcd14&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177#ht_500wt_1182

nice, i will have to tell my friend after he gets it from me
no worries, he is getting the file server (minus HDD's) for free

 

[pete3867]

"AFAIK, 3600+ was AM2 only. I never heard of it on the S939. Used S939 dual cores go for $50-80 on [H]ardOCPs FSFT forum. Every now and then someone unloads an x2 3800 for $40, but not often. I think there was an opteron 165 on there (1.8GHz x2) for $45, but I'm sure its gone now. The 4200 seems to go for $70+ I haven't seen anyone try to unload a 4400/4800".
I STILL have a skt 939 3600 x2 and i recently tried to sell it on ebay for £35 ..it diddn't sell .. they were originally made for O.E .M only systems , it overclocks quite well and generally out performs the 3800 x2 as it is built on the same core as the 4200x2

 

[4745454b]

You wrote pounds, so perhaps these were for overseas markets. It should perform worse then the 3800x2 stock, as it has less L2 cache and clock speed. They were all built on the same core, 3600+-4800.