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ok first off i have herd lots about this site so instead of asking my other forum i thought i would ask some people that have real knowledge on the subject.
Ok so my budget is 600-650 i have 210 extra to play with for a good video card or extra if need so total 810-860 Cheaper the better in my case
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Things i will use this system for, gaming, video editing, picture editing, multitasking in general. I need a system that i will not be held back when i get caught up doing 20 things at once and move an slug speed.
I am a gamer and sometimes find my self playing one game, browsing the web and doing work all that the same time and my current pc just can't keep up atm.
In my search for my next pc i would like the ability to do several things at once and still be a avg gamer.
Things i have to cut down price i can re use would be a ati 3450 hd which might be used to pc build opt 3.
Before i go into the systems i did myself my mother is concerned that since its my first build she really does not want me to buy or build cause if somethings brakes I'm on my own i have no fallback or warranty etc..
Now I'm going to school to be a pc IT, i know the in's and out's of the pc so building and setting up a pc is not going to be a issue so I'm not worried but she wants me to look int brands like dell etc but i can build so much better then what any of those sites offer.
also a few last things i can have ps open, dream weaver, office 07, FireFox with about 11-16 tabs and be going between 20 different things and my pc does good, i can even have a mmo open and play cs:s and have very little lag, or have cs:s open and work on ps and firefox and forget i have a game open on a single core but at other times my pc just slows so far down its just i can't take it and its time for a upgrade i would say i got the 2k and 6-7 years out of it and its more then enough for my mother and her bring home work, another reason why i;m getting a new pc is cause I'm always on doing something from building website or playing...
Ok so here are a few before hand questions: do i really need quad over dual? The Case i have been looking at comes with a name brand psu of 500w and peak 580w. I have done the research and everything seems to say that 500 is more then enough expect for my 3rd build when i come close to 412w.
and another one I'm sure you all have gone into a lot, for my 3rd build i can either get 2 sticks that equal 4gb of ddr3, or 3gb of single sticks for tri channel, if i go with 4gb that use to be the sweet spot and down the road i could upgrade to a 3rd stick giving me 6gb and tri chan but do i really need more then 3 i mean i can always upgrade down the road.
Ok now for what i have picked out.
My first build which i have been favoring is a AMD Build.
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
ASRock A780GXH/128M AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157157
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
And my preferred video card
BIOSTAR VA4893NDG2 HDMI Radeon HD 4890 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141091
That system Will cost me 820 minus shipping - without the video card it would cost me 600ish - issues are is the psu big enough? I from stock will not oc anything but down the road my cpu a little, from the pcu calculators that's not gonna push me no higher then the low 380's not sure how much its gonna push if i oc my gpu.
Here is option two.
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS5 LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128332
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115055
And my preferred video card
BIOSTAR VA4893NDG2 HDMI Radeon HD 4890 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141091
That system Will cost me 830 minus shipping - without the video card it would cost me 600ish - issues are is the psu big enough? I from stock will not oc anything but down the road my cpu and gpu.
Now for the first or second build i will drop that card for this one if needed.
HIS Hightech H485QT512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ4 Turbo Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161244
The amd build drops price to 735 and the intell build would be 750
Ok now for the above video card if i dropped my 940 cpu for the AMD Phenom 9950 Agena 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103291
The price is now 695.
Now if i use the above cpu with the orig 4890 gpu the price is 775 leaving me some spare change in case my psu is not enough.
Now with that added change if i dropped that case/psu i could get a antec 300 with a 650w psu 80% and sli/crossfire ready
this is that psu
Antec EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015
My new price with that better case and psu with the 4890 and the 9950 cpu it is 792.
Ok here is build 3 and I7 system - why i want to go i7 is because of the fact its the newest and upgrading for me atleast not have to happen for a long time and when it does gpu and ram is all that i would need.
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
Foxconn FlamingBlade GTI LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186170
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
CORSAIR XMS3 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145223
Antec 300 + 650w psu combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.198951
Gpu would be the 3450 hd i have in my dell, i would put the old x300 back in the dell.
grand total with the antec combo is 792
now if i drop the antec combo and go with the
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
my price would be 775 allowing me to possibly upgrade gpu to either of these two video cards the 3870 makes my price 860 and the 4830 makes it 865 which is really pushing my budget as i said before the cheaper the better.
Now i'm going to be buying one of these systems tomorrow probably.
So what i wanted to know was, is the 500w psu enough to power each of those systems?
any downsides to the 9950 vs the 940?
out of those options what whould be the most wise to get?
any changes i should make?
Thanks in advance to who ever helps me thanks.
Ok so my budget is 600-650 i have 210 extra to play with for a good video card or extra if need so total 810-860 Cheaper the better in my case
.Things i will use this system for, gaming, video editing, picture editing, multitasking in general. I need a system that i will not be held back when i get caught up doing 20 things at once and move an slug speed.
I am a gamer and sometimes find my self playing one game, browsing the web and doing work all that the same time and my current pc just can't keep up atm.
In my search for my next pc i would like the ability to do several things at once and still be a avg gamer.
Things i have to cut down price i can re use would be a ati 3450 hd which might be used to pc build opt 3.
Before i go into the systems i did myself my mother is concerned that since its my first build she really does not want me to buy or build cause if somethings brakes I'm on my own i have no fallback or warranty etc..
Now I'm going to school to be a pc IT, i know the in's and out's of the pc so building and setting up a pc is not going to be a issue so I'm not worried but she wants me to look int brands like dell etc but i can build so much better then what any of those sites offer.
also a few last things i can have ps open, dream weaver, office 07, FireFox with about 11-16 tabs and be going between 20 different things and my pc does good, i can even have a mmo open and play cs:s and have very little lag, or have cs:s open and work on ps and firefox and forget i have a game open on a single core but at other times my pc just slows so far down its just i can't take it and its time for a upgrade i would say i got the 2k and 6-7 years out of it and its more then enough for my mother and her bring home work, another reason why i;m getting a new pc is cause I'm always on doing something from building website or playing...
Ok so here are a few before hand questions: do i really need quad over dual? The Case i have been looking at comes with a name brand psu of 500w and peak 580w. I have done the research and everything seems to say that 500 is more then enough expect for my 3rd build when i come close to 412w.
and another one I'm sure you all have gone into a lot, for my 3rd build i can either get 2 sticks that equal 4gb of ddr3, or 3gb of single sticks for tri channel, if i go with 4gb that use to be the sweet spot and down the road i could upgrade to a 3rd stick giving me 6gb and tri chan but do i really need more then 3 i mean i can always upgrade down the road.
Ok now for what i have picked out.
My first build which i have been favoring is a AMD Build.
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
ASRock A780GXH/128M AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157157
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
And my preferred video card
BIOSTAR VA4893NDG2 HDMI Radeon HD 4890 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141091
That system Will cost me 820 minus shipping - without the video card it would cost me 600ish - issues are is the psu big enough? I from stock will not oc anything but down the road my cpu a little, from the pcu calculators that's not gonna push me no higher then the low 380's not sure how much its gonna push if i oc my gpu.
Here is option two.
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS5 LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128332
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115055
And my preferred video card
BIOSTAR VA4893NDG2 HDMI Radeon HD 4890 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141091
That system Will cost me 830 minus shipping - without the video card it would cost me 600ish - issues are is the psu big enough? I from stock will not oc anything but down the road my cpu and gpu.
Now for the first or second build i will drop that card for this one if needed.
HIS Hightech H485QT512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ4 Turbo Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161244
The amd build drops price to 735 and the intell build would be 750
Ok now for the above video card if i dropped my 940 cpu for the AMD Phenom 9950 Agena 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103291
The price is now 695.
Now if i use the above cpu with the orig 4890 gpu the price is 775 leaving me some spare change in case my psu is not enough.
Now with that added change if i dropped that case/psu i could get a antec 300 with a 650w psu 80% and sli/crossfire ready
this is that psu
Antec EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015
My new price with that better case and psu with the 4890 and the 9950 cpu it is 792.
Ok here is build 3 and I7 system - why i want to go i7 is because of the fact its the newest and upgrading for me atleast not have to happen for a long time and when it does gpu and ram is all that i would need.
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
Foxconn FlamingBlade GTI LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186170
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
CORSAIR XMS3 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145223
Antec 300 + 650w psu combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.198951
Gpu would be the 3450 hd i have in my dell, i would put the old x300 back in the dell.
grand total with the antec combo is 792
now if i drop the antec combo and go with the
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
my price would be 775 allowing me to possibly upgrade gpu to either of these two video cards the 3870 makes my price 860 and the 4830 makes it 865 which is really pushing my budget as i said before the cheaper the better.
Now i'm going to be buying one of these systems tomorrow probably.
So what i wanted to know was, is the 500w psu enough to power each of those systems?
any downsides to the 9950 vs the 940?
out of those options what whould be the most wise to get?
any changes i should make?
Thanks in advance to who ever helps me thanks.
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