Phenom 955 BE or Core i5 750

What is your budget?

i originally had a build plan all layed out for the 955 cpu but just read some i5 reviews and benchmarks and it smokes 955 many areas. in my opinion the i5 has crippled any cometition from AMD in performance and price.

go i5. it will cost you the same as just about any 955 configuration and its a better cpu/build.

Yea I agree....even though there is speculation that AMD will slash the current price on their quads, whatever you save on a 955 build will not compensate for the performance you lose by not chosing the 750...Basically there is no reason to go AMD at this point in time, specially when an i5 build is cheaper than a 955 build ATM...

i find the v10 needlessly expensive, you might need to buy an aditional converter bracket to fit it onto the lga 1156 socket

i dont think they have one yet as the i5 is brand new, might have to wait a few weeks.

I5 all the way. Going the X4 route would only be worth it if the 965 was 150 dollars

Not even.... I would rather spend 209.99 for the 750 than save 60 bucks and regret it later down the road.... i5 all the way.....

Those cannot hold a core i5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0Heatsinks

currently their are only 2 lga 1156 cpu heatsinks i can find on newegg, hope this helps.

As far as I know the mounting hardware is the same both for 775 and 1156... Anyone know if this is 100% accurate? If a 775 cooler is compatible with a 1156 socket using the exact same hardware then it looks like there is no difference at all... unless I missed something here....

im looking at a pic of the 1156 and 775 stock coolers and they look almost identical in size, but just to be sure i wouldent assume they are the same.

They are not, there's a 3mm difference.

Well Noctua released a SE2 edition of their NH U12P cooler, 775/1156/1366 compatible. Not sure about the availability in the US though...

Yea it's a matter of time .... Next week we should see around 10-15 more available....

Am i reading that post correct an i5 750 is equal to a Q9550 which is equal to a p2 955? from what I have seen the i5 750 gives either of those 2 cpu's a floggin lol

I can understand that, taking advantage of 775 owners who don't want to upgrade their motherboard. Intel is the same as any other corporation, money first.

Edit: also on Newegg, the 9650 includes a free bunny! woohoo!

Intel has always been retarded with 775 chip prices

I wish Intel would drop the E8600 to like 129.99. Would be AWESoME

I understand the E8600 kicks the crap out of all the X2 chips but 260 is pure BS considering the I3's at 3Ghz are going to be like 140

True but it is no threat to the E8600. It can easily do 4.5Ghz daily with a TRUE but again to that f'ing price. 199.99 would be a good start for it

Not really, the 550's normally can do 4.3Ghz on Air and 6.3Ghz on Ln2.... The 720's can achieve the same results but it is bit harder due to their stock clock....

http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?cp [...] &limit=100

http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?cp [...] &limit=100

[quotemsg=1980436,42,446940]Not really, the 550's normally can do 4.3Ghz on Air and 6.3Ghz on Ln2.... The 720's can achieve the same results but it is bit harder due to their stock clock....

What? In the link you provided, only the top 30 are above 4gHz... And CPU-Z validations are hardly representative of the norm at the best of times.

Except that it is the best gaming CPU for the money. It can easily handle 2 GPUs, much better than Phenom II or C2Q, and is at a very good price point. It has a great market, the high end. i7 has the elite high end while Phenom II has the low and midrange.

For budget gamers:

Phenom II + single midrange to high end card (4870 or 4890).

For high end gamers:

Core i5 or i7 LGA 1156 + 2 high end cards (2 4890s)

Ultra high end:

Core i7 920 + multi card setups (3 4890s, 2 GTX 295s)

That is how I see the market right now.

Well you see it badly. First, I5 is slower or tied with PII so I5 is not high end. I7 920 is also not ultra high end as it is reserved for 975. PII handles CF better than the I7 and saying that I7 scales better than Core2/Phenom II in CF is a lie. And yes, PII + midrange card is for budget conscious gamers, but so is I7 + midrange card. PII indeed has both low and high end, but not enthusiast end options. PII 5xx low end, 7xx & 8xx midrange, 9xx high end. Generally the I7 is a better option than PII at this moment if you do anything except gaming, but the PII also has an edge in encryption, x264 encoding and multiple ATI cards (CF). Core I5 doesn't really make any sense to me. At first I thought they would be releasing something nice for a change and get back to midrange. But it is not all that cheap and will perform much worse than I7. Also, getting the crippled 8xx versions of I7 that are also overpriced is pointless.

I5 slower then P2? What benchmarks were you looking at? From what i've seen the I5 750 beat down the 965 in almost every test. Anyone going with a 965 over a 750 now is just a fanboi and should be banned from this site.