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I need an 8X PCIe video card for my Dell SC420 server, and I can't find one anywhere.
I asked Dell, and they gave me a part no., but it was a regular PCI card.

Does anyone know where I can find an 8X PCIe video card?

Thanks for any input!

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I've never seen a true pcie x8 card. You can try this mod to use a x16 card.
http://www.tkdan.com/SC420/

Reply to orangegator

don't know about any 8x but here are two 1x cards or you can use a pci slot. It is a server after all.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 96%3A20108

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Reply to 505090

Their backwards compatible. as long as it's PCIe you're fine.

Reply to kingnoobe

Thanks everyone!

It is a server, but I'm using it as a desktop, running corporate XP Pro.

What's better a PCIe X1 video card or a regular PCI video card?

I figured a X8 PCIe card would be better than a regular PCI video card, which is why I was trying to find one.

I was also reading that you can cut a slot in the X8 PCIe connector, to fit a X16 PCIe video card, can anyone verify this?

Thanks!

Reply to thescirocco

Thanks orangegator!

I just read that link, and they're even talking about my server... :D

I'm going to try that mod.

My box is also a 2.8 P4, 500G HD/150G HD but 1 gig of RAM, which will go to 2, or 4Gig soon.

I found 4 Gig of DDR2 for $30 on craigslist, but it was 2 X 2Gig and my server has a 1Gig limit per slot, so I'll need 4 X 1Gig, or another 2 - 512M if I go to 2Gig. 2 X 512M is only $20 plus shipping directly from Dell...

I opened an account on Dell.com to ask a few questions, re: which PCIe video card, and about the memory.
The next day I received an email about extending my warranty for $799 for one year, or $1038 for 2 years. :non:

I paid $319 delivered to my house, almost 5 years ago, with 512M, and an 80G HD... :lol:

Reply to thescirocco

if it's a server why wouldn't you just put a cheap card in it, or what are you using it for

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Reply to 505090

As long as you have a spare PCIe x8 slot you should use it for graphics.

Just get a PCIe graphics card based on need. If you need a low-end why not get a $50 fanless one.

Reply to photonboy

"

Thanks everyone!

It is a server, but I'm using it as a desktop, running corporate XP Pro.

What's better a PCIe X1 video card or a regular PCI video card?

I figured a X8 PCIe card would be better than a regular PCI video card, which is why I was trying to find one.

I was also reading that you can cut a slot in the X8 PCIe connector, to fit a X16 PCIe video card, can anyone verify this?

Thanks!"

I don't think you understand. You don't need to cut anything. A PCIe x16 will work in a PCIe x8/4/1. If it's a PCI express their all backwards compatible. However a PCIe card will not work in a PCI slot. *Which is what you must be thinking to have to cut a slot into it, and I'd have to see that to believe it*.

Reply to kingnoobe

505090 wrote :

if it's a server why wouldn't you just put a cheap card in it, or what are you using it for



The SC420 has on board video, but that uses my RAM, and it won't run a lot of graphic intensive software.

I use it as a desktop for everything.

Reply to thescirocco

kingnoobe wrote :

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I don't think you understand. You don't need to cut anything. A PCIe x16 will work in a PCIe x8/4/1. If it's a PCI express their all backwards compatible. However a PCIe card will not work in a PCI slot. *Which is what you must be thinking to have to cut a slot into it, and I'd have to see that to believe it*.

 

I understand perfectly!

 

The SC420 PCIe X8 slot has dividers, that prevent installing a X16 PCIe card into the X8 slot.
orangegator proved it with this link: http://www.tkdan.com/SC420/ thanks orangegator!

 

I checked http://pinouts.ru/Slots/pci_express_pinout.shtml and the X8 and X16 pin outs match up.


Message edited by thescirocco on 06-28-2009 at 08:00:55 PM
Reply to thescirocco

pciiexpress is a lot better than pci. A 1x pcie will be more than sufficient for anything short of gaming.

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Reply to 505090

thescirocco wrote :

Thanks orangegator!

I just read that link, and they're even talking about my server... :D



You're welcome. Good luck with the mod. Let us know how it turns out.

Reply to orangegator

You got it! I'll do a follow up, once I get it done.

Here's the SC420 PCIe slot:
http://tkdan.com/SC420/images/sc420/640_P3154525.jpg

Reply to thescirocco

I did this modification with great success on my SC1420

 

Here is an explanation with pics on how to.


Message edited by trondster on 11-12-2009 at 05:06:51 PM
Reply to trondster

I did this modification with great success on my SC1420

What I did was to remove these tiny two "blockers" (red circle) with a regular dremel multi tool.
Before you start, remover all the ram, cpus, fans, and power cord.
If you dont have antistatic gear, touch the frame where there is direct connection to metal
several times, several places.
[img]http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s251/trondster/IMG_9877.jpg[/img]

Remember: Cut VERY carefully when you approach the actual pins.
At first there are no pins (circled in blue) but at the second "blocker" there are
working pins for the PCIe card.
[img]http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s251/trondster/IMG_9872.jpg[/img]

I used a very sharp scalpel the very last way to carve off the remains.
Be very careful about the two transistors that are on the side of the pcie 8x slot, and
not to cut in the pins inside the slot.

I then put my ASUS EN8600GT card in and it worked like a charm!
Now I have the ultimate working machine. 2 x 3.6Ghz XEON CPUs, 8 GB RAM and
an ok card for screen.
[img]http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s251/trondster/IMG_9879.jpg[/img]

I got to let you know that I have read several places that some cases with doing this
with the sc420 hasnt worked, as the pin number on them are somewhat different, but I do not
know if that is correct. You better check it yourself by counting or seeing if there are pins at the end.

Reply to trondster

I have done this mod with a ATI HD 2400 pro.
Admit I cut my slot up pretty messy. I may have bent one ping neat the first divider a little but it was not enough to damage it it seems. The plastic is very hard and i was not able to cut down deep enough to get the card seated all the way down.

i screwed the face plat down to the case thou, it fits good enough to work. Cheap creep make it not work on reboot, i need to open the case and push it down a little and then reboot.. Working win7 with airo fine now thou.

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