Hi, this is my first post here. I have $2,000 to spend on a brand new computer, and this will be my first home built computer. I plan to be buying this computer within the next two weeks, based upon further research. I want to be gaming on a 23" monitor, but I'm not really sure what to get. Here is what I've put together so far.
I would like to buy all the components from Newegg to ease the hassle of ordering from multiple sources. I like the Antec 1200 because it's all black, which is something I want, besides looking massive and having a lot of cooling features. Please help me tinker with different parts so I can get the best performance and pricing.
Grand Total: $2,298.48
(http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?nm_mc=EMC-RMC&cm_mmc=EMC-RMC-_-content-_-txt-_-ShoppingCart&cm_lm=migueljuar3z@gmail.com link to my cart)
I plan on overclocking this computer after it's first built and running. I haven't had a new computer in 7 years so this will be a huge upgrade for me!
Get the newer DO version of the CPU. There's a place in NJ that sells it for quite a bit less. Also, if you are in a state that doesn't have a NewEgg physical presence (office or warehouse) you can probably avoid the sales tax.
If you want a hard drive for your OS get an SSD. Your choice of heatsink doesn't match the LGA 1366 socket. Going with one GTX 275 and one later will out perform the 4870x2, or buy a low end card and wait for the 300 series.
Being picky with the internal colour of a case really messes with the budget, you can paint it you know. As for the keyboard and mouse, thats a personal choice. If you want to lower the budget take the SSD out, the only real benefit from it is a faster boot up time and application load time.
Like strandwolf said, look for a D0 stepping i7 920.
The monitor in this build supports HDMI, and and has a higher native screen resolution than that Samsung. The psu in this build is modular, and gives you some lee way for upgrading later on. Also the WB Black in this build is fast...so I would wait a few months for SSD's to drop in price and grab one of those for your o/s if you still feel the need by then. This build also includes the newer D0 Stepping i7 920 cpu.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.199127 Combo Discount: -$40.00 Combo Price: $304.98
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Antec TPQ-850 850W Continuous Power ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active ... - Retail
It's not just the internal colour I'm being picky about, I just plan like the 1200 series. I like it's big size, the black color, the side window, the mesh in front, it looks niceee. And what is a D0 stepping i7 920?
It's not just the internal colour I'm being picky about, I just plan like the 1200 series. I like it's big size, the black color, the side window, the mesh in front, it looks niceee. And what is a D0 stepping i7 920?
Look at the bottom of my post up above...the build I posted for you and it explains all about D0 Stepping. Runs cooler = higher over clocks.
Hi...it is a nice build but in general, you are paying more than what you will be using...
You can swap components to get a better overall system...And make use of it totally
5. I agree with others that you wont be needing 1000W - unless you are planning to add one more 4870X2 in quad- crossfire anytime soon...
If you have such a plan please drop it as a single 4870X2 would easily max out all the current games @ that resolution and having 2 of them is just sheer waste of electricity and graphics power...
And by the time, you would need more graphics power, newer DirectX 11 graphics cards will be out and you can get them instead of hunting for another 4870X2...
and like Mrbumbum said, switch to 2x 4890s or GTX 275...
@Why_Me vey nice build...
I was little busy else where so couldnt come up with the complete build...
and posted my above comment without refreshing the page ...
Will that ASUS Micro ATX Mobo allow for SLI and such? A small motherboard would worry me.
So, following mostly Why_Mes post it's either gonna be a GTX 275 SLI setup or a 4890 SLI setup? Which would would be better? I've heard that the performance is equal.
Did you go through the article that compares that ASUS board directly to the ASUS P6T?
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2302.html It is a premium series board, which has the Rampage badge - which means lots of tweak options, high quality components, circuitry...
It has outperformed it in most of the benchmarks...
And yes it would offer Full x16x16 SLI or xfire with its 2 PCIe 2.0 slots...
I would slightly lean towards the GTX 275 as SLI tends to scale little better than crossfire...
But either would do...So check the which card, plays your favourite games better and get that card...
Message edited by gkay09 on 06-09-2009 at 08:03:09 AM
380 dollars on a video-card you dont need for a 23'' monitor unless the resolution is ridiculously high like 2000x2000 or something like that then you dont need such a ridiculous card, normal 23'' monitors are 1080p (1920x1080). In this case a 280 dollar GTX280 or even a cheaper GTX275 would be the best for that resolution and would save you like 150bucks+ which you could use to buy a nice 10,000 rpm velociraptor hard drive that would make games and applications open up lightning fast compared to your 7200rpm drive or buy a a small solid state drive to make applications open up literally lightning fast compared to any hard drive currently available and keep your storage like multimedia and stuff on an external drive while applications on the solid state.
380 dollars on a video-card you dont need for a 23'' monitor unless the resolution is ridiculously high like 2000x2000 or something like that then you dont need such a ridiculous card, normal 23'' monitors are 1080p (1920x1080). In this case a 280 dollar GTX280 or even a cheaper GTX275 would be the best for that resolution and would save you like 150bucks+ which you could use to buy a nice 10,000 rpm velociraptor hard drive that would make games and applications open up lightning fast compared to your 7200rpm drive or buy a a small solid state drive to make applications open up literally lightning fast compared to any hard drive currently available and keep your storage like multimedia and stuff on an external drive while applications on the solid state.
He has a $230 evga gtx 275 with a $20 rebate and free shipping in his build along with a 24" monitor....nothing wrong with that.
Message edited by Why_Me on 06-09-2009 at 10:36:29 PM
he could save $30 dollars too..
Also, can we use the above RAM in two sets, ie making it total 12GB of RAM with ASUS P6T Deluxe..?
It looks to be over clocked platinum. Iv'e never seen that particular ram tbh. I think it's new on the market for the fact three of the sites I went to to look it up were still waiting for it's arrival. You can get OCZ platinum or GSKILL 1600 for about the same price at newegg.
Your combo Antec 1200 with CP power supply are bang on. I own them and couldn't be happier. The case is top notch and I love how you can route all the cables in the back of the tray, also it comes with fan controllers built in.
Heatsink is a good choice. Glad you switch to the Xigmatech which is cheaper and supports the I7 out of the box. Something like the Sunbeamk Core Contact is a hair bit better but requires a bracket for I7 support.
RAM I would go back to the OCZ PLatinum. Why did you switch to the G-Skill?
That 1200 case comes with a blue side fan...you don't need the extra fan. The heatsink also comes with a bit of compound in a tube...no need to buy extra. In this day and age heatsinks are so well designed with heat pipes and stuff that super high end ceramic silver NASA compound won't make a difference compared to regular compound. Buy the compound if you want to have it if don't have any at home, since you can change it every 3-6 months or so. Also good to have for scraping the grey pad off the OEM heatsinks and adding your own. For aftermarket heatsinks you don't need to buy the compound.
For the hard drives why not get 2x1TB drives and run a striped RAID for blazing speed. You'll have super fast and 2TB of storage.
For the monitor I'd switch to the 1080 as opposed to 1200. It'll support DVD players, consoles, etc... better with no black bars. It's more standard 1080P. It also doesn't have the built in webcam and is cheaper. If you want a webcam buy a good seperate one, not something built in.
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For the keyboard mouse combo I'd go all out. I love having a good keyboard mouse and this is my fave. It's pricey but I like that it's bluetooth, electroluminescent, and I like the slim natural style Microsoft uses with these new keyboards. I don't like Logitech...I find they arn't as durable.
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Overall you have a great system. I would jsut tweak it a bit towards my preferences.
Questions I am wondering is why a uATX board in an Antec 1200 case? Also why not just 2 1TB hard drives in RAID if you want speed. This gives you a spare hard drive if one crashes.
Also note, that there are some great mouse pads available form Raazor and steelseries. These $40 mouse pads are worth every penny. The surface is designed to pick up every movement.
I'd also like to add that if you ever think of adding a sound card the Asus Xonar D2X seems to be the best for gaming. It is the least buggy of all the card from Creative, Azuntech, Asus, etc.... The Asus jsut plain works. For games and movies I'd go the high end ASus route. For music that is a different kettle of fish, and if your into recording then you already know enough to choose a good recording sound card.
The only concern is it is half of the price at ZZF compared Newegg.
I would like to get 12gb, can anything be wrong with this..?
A few people on here said that 12 gigs could only be run at ...I think it was 1333, but then a poster proved them wrong...I don't know enough about it myself without doing a google on it. I can't see anything wrong with using 12 gigs other than maybe heat, and over clocking. But if you were heavy into video editing, adobe, etc....I could see where 12 gigs would be useful.
Your combo Antec 1200 with CP power supply are bang on. I own them and couldn't be happier. The case is top notch and I love how you can route all the cables in the back of the tray, also it comes with fan controllers built in.
Heatsink is a good choice. Glad you switch to the Xigmatech which is cheaper and supports the I7 out of the box. Something like the Sunbeamk Core Contact is a hair bit better but requires a bracket for I7 support.
RAM I would go back to the OCZ PLatinum. Why did you switch to the G-Skill?
That 1200 case comes with a blue side fan...you don't need the extra fan. The heatsink also comes with a bit of compound in a tube...no need to buy extra. In this day and age heatsinks are so well designed with heat pipes and stuff that super high end ceramic silver NASA compound won't make a difference compared to regular compound. Buy the compound if you want to have it if don't have any at home, since you can change it every 3-6 months or so. Also good to have for scraping the grey pad off the OEM heatsinks and adding your own. For aftermarket heatsinks you don't need to buy the compound.
For the hard drives why not get 2x1TB drives and run a striped RAID for blazing speed. You'll have super fast and 2TB of storage.
For the monitor I'd switch to the 1080 as opposed to 1200. It'll support DVD players, consoles, etc... better with no black bars. It's more standard 1080P. It also doesn't have the built in webcam and is cheaper. If you want a webcam buy a good seperate one, not something built in.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824236049
For the keyboard mouse combo I'd go all out. I love having a good keyboard mouse and this is my fave. It's pricey but I like that it's bluetooth, electroluminescent, and I like the slim natural style Microsoft uses with these new keyboards. I don't like Logitech...I find they arn't as durable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823109041
Overall you have a great system. I would jsut tweak it a bit towards my preferences.
Questions I am wondering is why a uATX board in an Antec 1200 case? Also why not just 2 1TB hard drives in RAID if you want speed. This gives you a spare hard drive if one crashes.
Also note, that there are some great mouse pads available form Raazor and steelseries. These $40 mouse pads are worth every penny. The surface is designed to pick up every movement.
I'd also like to add that if you ever think of adding a sound card the Asus Xonar D2X seems to be the best for gaming. It is the least buggy of all the card from Creative, Azuntech, Asus, etc.... The Asus jsut plain works. For games and movies I'd go the high end ASus route. For music that is a different kettle of fish, and if your into recording then you already know enough to choose a good recording sound card.
Enjoy the new system.
Why would you go back to the Platinum ? After reading reviews on a few diff. sites some people have great luck with that memory while others are having trouble getting advertised timings to work. Kinda like the OCZ from a few years back when it had to be volted through the roof to get it to work at it's specified timings...unlike G.SKILL and Mushkin which never have that problem. With the monitor higher resolution = way better....especially seeing how he is running 2 x gtx 275's in his build. Anything less resolution wise would be an insult to those cards in SLI. That board you chose does have a better lay out for two cards, but there again it's like $80+ more when you include the coupon promo and rebate of the Gigabyte mobo.
I can see going the GSkill if there are timing problems with the OCZ. I've had bad luck with cheap capacitors on prior Gigabytes and they didn't last. Have stayed away from them since. My store was selling exclusively Abit, DFI, Asus. Now I tend to go with Asus unless you need the feature set of DFI for an exclusive overclock. But again I would choose the Gigabyte over the Asus uATX board.
One thing that turned me off about that monitor is the built in webcam. Also games only support 1920x1080 not 1200. The 1200 only comes in handy with extra desktop real estate. I'd stick with 1080 if there was a chance of using anything other than a comnputer such as a console, dvd player, TV, etc... Although for video editing and professional use the 1200 may be more appealing.