What CPU is better..

[Shappo]

Alright, these two CPU's are the exact same price ($256) Australian.


They are:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?productID=2366

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?productID=2368



I'm making a new build.
It will be mainly used for...
Burning DVD's, General Operations (Moving files to drives), Gaming.


What are your thoughts everyone?
Which one should I go with.

 

[szymek]

Q8400. However 775 is a dying socket. you better buy amds AM3 and pII

 

[loneninja]

Personally I would rather have the Q8400, 2 more cores to me is a better deal than a faster clock speed. However like szymek said, there will be no new processors for socket 775, you'll be replacing your whold system if you decide to upgrade again. Which is actually another reason to choose the quad vs dual since the future is leading towards multithreaded applications.

However if you went AMD, their socket AM3 is current, and they have plans for an X6 series later next year, and who knows what else will be compatible with it.

 

[threednonsense]

An i5 is going to take out both of those for just a little bit more and your still on Socket 775 at this price range? DDR3 can't be that expensive...

 

[Twoboxer]

Assuming you run them stock, sometimes the E8400 will be better, sometimes the Q8400 will be better. If you use your PC for mostly one intensive, non-multithreaded activity at a time, the E8400 will be better more often.

But the i5 750 will be a lot better than either. Check the prices in your area. This is a new socket, and the beginning of a new line of cpus, not an old line from either manufacturer. In the US, the price difference would be small.

 

[Shappo]

i5's i7's are out of my budget, thats something you got to take into account.
If I go one of those, I would have to go DDR3 ect...
The snowball will just get better, costing more money.

 

[Shappo]

If I was to go AMD..

I would go this motherboard
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?productID=335

Then maybe with the Phenom ii X3 Triple Core.

 

[surda]

get Pentium 4, their cheap and will do very good, make sure u get the ones that support hyper threading.

nah, get the Quad Core, more cores same price, better performance, less clock speed, but right now everything is about multi tasking and all games are (will mostly) support 4 cores and up, which will give you better performance than the Core 2 duo.

 

[Shappo]

Uhgh, well if I was to go Intel.. I would go 775.

But if AMD would be better in the future.. AMD would be the choice.

What do you guy's think about this motherboard:
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?productID=335

Would it be good for a AMD build?

 

[surda]

what? no intel is better, in fact their core i5 processor is faster than their latest phenom and at a cheaper price.

but thats up to you.

 

[Shappo]

i5's and i7's are out of the equation.

I got a budget.

It's either the Intel E8400, Q8400.

Or

AMD
PHENOM II X4 Quad Core 810
PHENOM II X3 Triple Core 720

 

[rooseveltdon]

what? no intel is better, in fact their core i5 processor is faster than their latest phenom and at a cheaper price.

but thats up to you.

The overall cost of an i5 platform would still be higher than amd, for his needs a phenom ll x3 720be coupled with either an am3 or am2+ mobo would give him great multi tasking ability and gaming performance as well as good over clocking head room. That's the problem with the forums at tom's people will always reccomend the latest and greatest even for the most trivial tasks. Moving files to drives, burning dvd's and gaming do not require the latest quad core from intel. go with the 720BE and a cheap am3 mobo or am2+ if you want cheaper ddr 2 ram and you will be good to go as far as performance goes, 2 extra frames per second and 45 seconds less in did burning do not warrant an extra 50-100 dollars.

 

[threednonsense]

Yuck!!!

Let's just suggest him get a prebuilt. LOL!

Okay, on a serious note and to the op. Are you going to overclock?

 

[Shappo]

The overall cost of an i5 platform would still be higher than amd, for his needs a phenom ll x3 720be coupled with either an am3 or am2+ mobo would give him great multi tasking ability and gaming performance as well as good over clocking head room. That's the problem with the forums at tom's people will always reccomend the latest and greatest even for the most trivial tasks. Moving files to drives, burning dvd's and gaming do not require the latest quad core from intel. go with the 720BE and a cheap am3 mobo or am2+ if you want cheaper ddr 2 ram and you will be good to go as far as performance goes, 2 extra frames per second and 45 seconds less in did burning do not warrant an extra 50-100 dollars.

Hey thanks for your imput.

So CPU: https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?productID=2328
Motherboard: https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?productID=335

There both very reasonable prices.

My GPU I'll be running with it will be a GTX260.
Here is the one i'm going for: https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?productID=1348


what you's think?

 

[threednonsense]

The overall cost of an i5 platform would still be higher than amd, for his needs a phenom ll x3 720be coupled with either an am3 or am2+ mobo would give him great multi tasking ability and gaming performance as well as good over clocking head room. That's the problem with the forums at tom's people will always reccomend the latest and greatest even for the most trivial tasks. Moving files to drives, burning dvd's and gaming do not require the latest quad core from intel. go with the 720BE and a cheap am3 mobo or am2+ if you want cheaper ddr 2 ram and you will be good to go as far as performance goes, 2 extra frames per second and 45 seconds less in did burning do not warrant an extra 50-100 dollars.

See the thing is, ddr3 is becoming a standard as of now. So, recommending ddr2 is already like saying "Get socket 775". With the high speeds available but not necessarily needed in most motherboards, this is the perfect oppurtunity to take the advantage of new technology. i7 wasn't that good, sorry to say...

Also, If you can't afford ram like this then idk... ddr3 1600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

It's not like you have to have ddr3 2000 but it ain't that expensive considering the speed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231282

If he really wanted to save a lot of money, he'd get a budget Intel dual core cpu and overclock it.

@Shappo

You want to step up to the price range of an e8400 and q8400 and then you say you can't spend an extra 90 dollars? And I'm suggesting quality parts too. You could go with 1066 ddr3 and there's only really about a 50 dollar difference or less. Unless there's no availability for you then I see no reason not to get the i5 platform. The best possible scenario is a 30 dollar difference. Again, availability might be an issue.

That's like saying, I want to step up and pay the price for a mercedes but I can't afford any of the optional features.... That's ridiculous.

 

[Shappo]

Grgh, well... I got problem, the site i'm using for parts is:
http://www.interwebcomputers.com.au/

I don't think they sell i5's.

 

[threednonsense]

The AMD phenom II 720 x3 was actually the best option mentioned so far for the price. I'd go with that and a decent motherboard under 100 dollars. Although, I must mention that I'm assuming that your not overclocking since you didn't really mention or take notice to it.

 

[Shappo]

Alright, well I took into account about the i5.
And understand where the old sockets are leading.

I am also supprised that i5's are only a bit more.

I supose it is worth it in the long run.

So you suggest a socket 1156 build for me?

 

[Cryslayer80]

An i5 is going to take out both of those for just a little bit more and your still on Socket 775 at this price range? DDR3 can't be that expensive...

Fail.

 

[Cryslayer80]

The overall cost of an i5 platform would still be higher than amd, for his needs a phenom ll x3 720be coupled with either an am3 or am2+ mobo would give him great multi tasking ability and gaming performance as well as good over clocking head room. That's the problem with the forums at tom's people will always reccomend the latest and greatest even for the most trivial tasks. Moving files to drives, burning dvd's and gaming do not require the latest quad core from intel. go with the 720BE and a cheap am3 mobo or am2+ if you want cheaper ddr 2 ram and you will be good to go as far as performance goes, 2 extra frames per second and 45 seconds less in did burning do not warrant an extra 50-100 dollars.

A miracle, a miracle. Another non ignorant Tom's person. Great. For the topic, get the AMD Phenom 810 and a motherboard that supports ACC, because it is a similar price and it is much more likely that you can unlock more cache on 810 than another core on 720.

 

[Shappo]

AMD PHENOM II X4 Quad Core 810 CPU, 2.6GHz (95W), 6MB Cache, Sockets AM3/AM2+/AM2*

That what you talking about?
Seems good in my budget though.

But i'm starting to consider i5.

Not sure, :S

 

[Cryslayer80]

Then consider it and buy it, I don't care, I'm trying to help only with AMD here as I5 is a fail. Also a good mobo for unlocking would be M4A78T-E or M4A79T Deluxe.

 

[jimishtar]

775 is a dead socket ?! if he has 775 board, the q8400 will do the job. if he wanted the best, he wouldnt ask for advice.
wait for a few weeks, see if the prices drop. if so, get q9550, if not, go with the q8400. gettin i5 config will cost u hell lot more.

 

[Cryslayer80]

Fail, if he must get Intel's LGA1156 or LGA775 then chose LGA1156 along with an I5. I5 is cheaper, faster and has IMC which helps greatly in gaming. I'd recommend I7 if you had the money of course... But I'd still pick Phenom II 955 or 965 over it any day.

 

[jimishtar]

people, do the math. i5 is cheaper, but it needs more expensive hardware with it.