I'm finishing my build for a lab computer. I'm installing all of this stuff in an old Dell OptiPlex GX400 case; not keeping any of the old parts, I don't think.
So here we go.
Hard Drive:
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
Would appreciate any concerns or help you guys might have about this build. Also, I don't think the CPU fan is necessary because I think the CPU comes with its out, so is it worth it?
I'm trying to keep costs down for the university; this isn't supposed to be a flashy machine, so I probably won't overclock it. It just needs to be suitable for accepting various PCI cards for the equipment we have here, and do the occasional processing (sometimes moderately demanding, sometimes not).
What's your budget for this build? The PSU is the first thing that has to go. You definitely don't want to go cheap on the PSU or you risk frying the components in your new rig. You should look for a quality unit from Corsair, Seasonic, PC Power & Cooling, Antec EarthWatts series, etc... This one is a great unit for a good price:
You might want to consider an AMD triple core build with a motherboard that has integrated graphics since that will save you some money and be better for applications that are multi-thread optimized.
I agree, PSU needs to change. Corsair 550VX would be a good choice. Power is the most important thing, life of your system depends on it. 4GB DDR2 might also be good, its quite cheap right now. AMD motherboard, or Intel motherboard is your choice. Although PII X3 720 BE maybe worth it, considering how good i7 is. Anyway, good luck.
hmm... I think I will make the switch to AMD. I've never really been a fan, although I've never tried them, so I might as well now.
Will the Phenom II be overclockable? I was under the impression that, with old applications, the operating frequency still matters a bit more than core number (until we make more of a switch to multi-core processing w/ multiple threads, etc.), so although 2.8 is good, i'd like the nice 3.0 more.
Also, as this would be my first time overclocking a processor, is this one of the newer processors (I've heard of some recently) where overclocking isn't really all that dangerous? Wouldn't want to fry it.
hmm... I think I will make the switch to AMD. I've never really been a fan, although I've never tried them, so I might as well now.
Will the Phenom II be overclockable? I was under the impression that, with old applications, the operating frequency still matters a bit more than core number (until we make more of a switch to multi-core processing w/ multiple threads, etc.), so although 2.8 is good, i'd like the nice 3.0 more.
Also, as this would be my first time overclocking a processor, is this one of the newer processors (I've heard of some recently) where overclocking isn't really all that dangerous? Wouldn't want to fry it.
The Phenom II Black Edition CPUs have an unlocked multiplier making OCing them about as hard as turning up a dimmer switch (and takes about as long). You don't have to mess with the FSB at all (and then have to reconfigure your memory). OCing has also gotten a lot safer, it's pretty hard to screw up if you have a good cooler and monitor your system stability and temps as you step up your OC.
There's a good sticky in the OC forum detailing the basics of OC and listing the standard programs people use.
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anyone know a good power supply for the build shortstuff_mt recommended? The AMD build? The one he mentioned earlier has a 20+4 pin connector, but the motherboard is 24 pin.
Are 20+4 and 24 compatible, or are they completely different connections? I don't need too much power, 400-500W would probably be enough.
A 20+4 pin connector fits both 20 pin motherboards and 24 pin motherboards, and if you are going to be using the integrated instead of a discrete graphics card the 400 watt corsair shortstuff recommended will still work well