Hi.
I would need the expert opinion of someone who (preferably) understands problem solving, electronics, signalling, how SSDs communicate with Sata controllers, driver implementations, Windows 7 - in the guts.
I have this problem for over 6 months now, and nobody was able to provide me with an answer, so I ask you guys to shed some light into this. This is a very common problem, as it appears on a lot of forums, but it seems there's no answer. It spans accross multiple SSD manufacturers (Crucial, OCZ, Intel) and notebooks. I have already tried some "classical" solutions, but to no avail.
My story:
I have bought an Asus Notebook G51-Jx-A1, and a separate Crucial M225 Drive (128 GB). Though they should work together, it seems it's a fundamental flaw in the hardware/software architecture that doesn't allow them to function properly.
My config:
Notebook Asus G51Jx-A1, Core i7-720QM, 6 GB RAM (Hynix), Geforece GTS360M, Windows 7 Home Prem. 64-bit, 500 GB HDD(original)
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SSD: Crucial CT128-M225, 128 GB.
The problem:
When trying to boot into Windows, right after the Starting Windows logo appears, the SSD completely freezes, with the HDD led solid on. Only hard reset works. Problem appears in approx. in 3/4 boot attempts. It doesn't seem to have a pattern. It appears often, but randomly. I can "trick" it into booting (again, no pattern, but this seems to reduce number of boot attempts) by pressing F8 and choosing either "Disable driver signing" or "No auto restart in case of failure", or "Start normally". I choose different options, but randomly.
First, it appeared only during boot, but not during system operation. Now, it appears during system running as well, stays for approx 30 seconds, then resumes normal operation. If during boot, doesn't resume at all.
I have noticed that after reinstalling the drivers (any of them), the problem seems to alleviate, only to come back after a few tries.
What I have singled out:
It appears to be either a hardware or software issue between the drive and the Sata controller.
The system works with no problem, when I run it with the SSD connected to the PC by eSATA port. As soon as I plug it in the internal port, it begins misbehaving.
Things I have tried:
-updated BIOS;
-updated drive Firmware;
-different drivers: IDE, AHCI (Microsoft), AHCI (Intel RST last 3 versions)
-enabled/disabled TRIM, NCQ, Write Caching etc.
-Reinstalled Windows (both "restore function", clean OS install), (also added Intel RST drivers before OS install)
-format and partition allignment (both from OS Install options and command line);
Other important info:
- I do not have an option to switch between IDE and AHCI mode in BIOS; all was done at Windows level
- BIOS is pretty much locked. All I can change is boot order and time/date.
- Sata controller: Intel HM55 Chipset, Intel 5-series 4-port SATA controller.
- Crucial uses Indilinx controller on their drive.
- I have only one SATA port, glued to the Mainboard; I have one eSATA port, and a external Caddy.
- The system runs perfectly fine on the original mechanical HDD. No freeze whatsoever.
I would like to find where the problem is, hardware, software, to see if it's the notebooks' fault or the hard drive's fault. I want to know if other SSDs would work with this notebook or it would be the same problem with other brand/model.
Thank you very much for your help and hope we can find the issue for this once and for all.
G.
I would need the expert opinion of someone who (preferably) understands problem solving, electronics, signalling, how SSDs communicate with Sata controllers, driver implementations, Windows 7 - in the guts.
I have this problem for over 6 months now, and nobody was able to provide me with an answer, so I ask you guys to shed some light into this. This is a very common problem, as it appears on a lot of forums, but it seems there's no answer. It spans accross multiple SSD manufacturers (Crucial, OCZ, Intel) and notebooks. I have already tried some "classical" solutions, but to no avail.
My story:
I have bought an Asus Notebook G51-Jx-A1, and a separate Crucial M225 Drive (128 GB). Though they should work together, it seems it's a fundamental flaw in the hardware/software architecture that doesn't allow them to function properly.
My config:
Notebook Asus G51Jx-A1, Core i7-720QM, 6 GB RAM (Hynix), Geforece GTS360M, Windows 7 Home Prem. 64-bit, 500 GB HDD(original)
+
SSD: Crucial CT128-M225, 128 GB.
The problem:
When trying to boot into Windows, right after the Starting Windows logo appears, the SSD completely freezes, with the HDD led solid on. Only hard reset works. Problem appears in approx. in 3/4 boot attempts. It doesn't seem to have a pattern. It appears often, but randomly. I can "trick" it into booting (again, no pattern, but this seems to reduce number of boot attempts) by pressing F8 and choosing either "Disable driver signing" or "No auto restart in case of failure", or "Start normally". I choose different options, but randomly.
First, it appeared only during boot, but not during system operation. Now, it appears during system running as well, stays for approx 30 seconds, then resumes normal operation. If during boot, doesn't resume at all.
I have noticed that after reinstalling the drivers (any of them), the problem seems to alleviate, only to come back after a few tries.
What I have singled out:
It appears to be either a hardware or software issue between the drive and the Sata controller.
The system works with no problem, when I run it with the SSD connected to the PC by eSATA port. As soon as I plug it in the internal port, it begins misbehaving.
Things I have tried:
-updated BIOS;
-updated drive Firmware;
-different drivers: IDE, AHCI (Microsoft), AHCI (Intel RST last 3 versions)
-enabled/disabled TRIM, NCQ, Write Caching etc.
-Reinstalled Windows (both "restore function", clean OS install), (also added Intel RST drivers before OS install)
-format and partition allignment (both from OS Install options and command line);
Other important info:
- I do not have an option to switch between IDE and AHCI mode in BIOS; all was done at Windows level
- BIOS is pretty much locked. All I can change is boot order and time/date.
- Sata controller: Intel HM55 Chipset, Intel 5-series 4-port SATA controller.
- Crucial uses Indilinx controller on their drive.
- I have only one SATA port, glued to the Mainboard; I have one eSATA port, and a external Caddy.
- The system runs perfectly fine on the original mechanical HDD. No freeze whatsoever.
I would like to find where the problem is, hardware, software, to see if it's the notebooks' fault or the hard drive's fault. I want to know if other SSDs would work with this notebook or it would be the same problem with other brand/model.
Thank you very much for your help and hope we can find the issue for this once and for all.
G.