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June 13, 2009 7:11:29 PM

Primary Game Purposes: World of Warcraft & Dialo III upon release. Ideally wants to stay under $1,000.

Currently i have these parts selected:

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

Case:
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

Mobo:
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358

GPU:
HIS Hightech H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161276

Memory:
OCZ Blade Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227419

PSU:
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

Heat Sink:
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029

Hard Drives:
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

Price Currently: $884.87

Mainly looking to see if the PSU is adequate, the RAM/Mobo are compatible, and that the 775 series works with the GDDR5 on the 4890.

Open to other suggestions.
June 14, 2009 12:37:24 AM

The RAM and Mobo will be fine together, supports a max of 16GB.

I think a 4890 might stress that PSU. Just wondering if he will be playing any other games, because WoW and I'm going to assume D3 won't be too graphical intensive. Also your links are busted. :p 
a b Ý World of Warcraft
June 14, 2009 12:45:33 AM

That power supply is sufficient, the corsair calculator allows for down to a 450 for your setup even overclocked. The CPU doesnt care what type of memory is on the graphics card, the graphics card is one unit and only the GPU cares if its using GDDR5 or GDDR3, the CPU doesnt even know what type of memory is on the card because it doesnt matter.
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June 14, 2009 5:24:33 PM

Quick note... I am building a system too E8500 version for same type of games (post on this fourm)

On NewEgg if you read the reviews some are reporting that on Page 22 of the user manual Giga motherboard will require a 500W PSU to run. I assume therefore you should be fine. My build with an E8500 and either the 250 or 260 will be using a 520 or 650 Corsair. Another thing I read was that there is a min Amp needed for high end cards (260 has this issue 250 does not) +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amp which some 500W PSU's can not perform.

So check this detail as I could be wrong in my reading as I am a first time builder
June 14, 2009 5:25:32 PM

Quick note... I am building a system too E8500 version for same type of games (post on this fourm)

On NewEgg if you read the reviews some are reporting that on Page 22 of the user manual Giga motherboard will require a 500W PSU to run. I assume therefore you should be fine. My build with an E8500 and either the 250 or 260 will be using a 520 or 650 Corsair. Another thing I read was that there is a min Amp needed for high end cards (260 has this issue 250 does not) +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amp which some 500W PSU's can not perform.

So check this detail as I could be wrong in my reading as I am a first time builder
a b Ý World of Warcraft
June 14, 2009 5:36:22 PM

DrGrass1987 said:
Primary Game Purposes: World of Warcraft & Dialo III upon release. Ideally wants to stay under $1,000.

Currently i have these parts selected:

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

Case:
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

Mobo:
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358

GPU:
HIS Hightech H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161276

Memory:
OCZ Blade Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227419

PSU:
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

Heat Sink:
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029

Hard Drives:
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

Price Currently: $884.87

Mainly looking to see if the PSU is adequate, the RAM/Mobo are compatible, and that the 775 series works with the GDDR5 on the 4890.

Open to other suggestions.


What resolution is the monitor ?
June 14, 2009 5:56:22 PM

Good build, fine as is. One thing i might suggest is that even though WoW is only 2 core optimized add ons will usually work off a 3rd and/or 4th core. Not sure if Diablo3 is multi core optimized. You might think about bumping the CPU to a Q9550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and dropping the GPU from a HD4890 to a HD4870 1GB. Use the money saved for the CPU upgrade.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Just an idea.

June 14, 2009 8:16:34 PM

^ +1 since WoW uses three threads so one to spare for OS, antivirus, etc but if you used the dual core then they would be stressed out a bit more.
June 14, 2009 8:16:50 PM

^ +1 since WoW uses three threads so one to spare for OS, antivirus, etc but if you used the dual core then they would be stressed out a bit more.
June 14, 2009 9:16:59 PM

I don't trust this forum right now, I clicked on this thread because it said it had only one reply :) 

Dirtmountain:

WoW was optimized for 4 cores a few months ago actually.

Why has no one commented on the 8GB of RAM? There is no benefit from more than 4GB in gaming.

If you loose 4GB, you could switch to DDR3. DDR3 is a better investment because it will be usable in builds for a while, and easier to match as prices continue to come down.
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45

Then consider adding a better PSU at 750W, so that a second card could be added to that crossfire board if desired in the future:
PC P&C 750W
June 14, 2009 9:21:55 PM

Ahh i didn't know that Prox, i was going off a blue post off the forums. All the more reason to upgrade to the Q9550 then.
June 14, 2009 10:29:22 PM

Proximon said:
WoW was optimized for 4 cores a few months ago actually.
PC P&C 750W


I believe when they patched Wrath of the Lich King they added Quad Core optimization. But it also runs perfectly well off of a Dual Core; especially in this situation where he has yet to even hit level 60? Lol, i think he'll be fine. Mainly he just wants to future proof his rig for the next 3 years or so? I think this should render him fine. And he also says he wishes to stay with 8GB even though i am suggesting against it.

Will this mobo support 8GB of the Ram we have selected?

Also i will switch the PSU to 650W Corsair.
June 14, 2009 10:46:32 PM

If WoW is really the main concern then both the 4890 and the Q9550 would be over kill, although WoW was recently optimized to take advantage of more cores the E8400 would be more than capable of handling WoW on it's on although a quad core can help for other actvities and future proofs better since eventually more games will take advantage of it. For WoW an E8400 nd a 4850 would be more than enough to max it out unless you plan on playing other games in the future at high resolution,then your 4890 would be a good pick. As a side note no matter what you do make sure you get a reliable brand of psu and try to sty above 550 watts just to be on the safe side and have all your bases covered.
June 14, 2009 10:48:47 PM

If WoW is really the main concern then both the 4890 and the Q9550 would be over kill, although WoW was recently optimized to take advantage of more cores the E8400 would be more than capable of handling WoW on it's on although a quad core can help for other actvities and future proofs better since eventually more games will take advantage of it. For WoW an E8400 nd a 4850 would be more than enough to max it out unless you plan on playing other games in the future at high resolution,then your 4890 would be a good pick. As a side note no matter what you do make sure you get a reliable brand of psu and try to sty above 550 watts just to be on the safe side and have all your bases covered.
June 14, 2009 10:49:03 PM

If WoW is really the main concern then both the 4890 and the Q9550 would be over kill, although WoW was recently optimized to take advantage of more cores the E8400 would be more than capable of handling WoW on it's on although a quad core can help for other actvities and future proofs better since eventually more games will take advantage of it. For WoW an E8400 nd a 4850 would be more than enough to max it out unless you plan on playing other games in the future at high resolution,then your 4890 would be a good pick. As a side note no matter what you do make sure you get a reliable brand of psu and try to sty above 550 watts just to be on the safe side and have all your bases covered.
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