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ATI HD 5770 Vapor-x OC Edition

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May 26, 2011 6:33:09 AM

Hello.
I startred to oc my gpu and now with 900 core/1320 mem i have these results:
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae137/zeron2862/Unig...

And i have some questions..(after googling im a bit confused :pt1cable:  )

I read that increasing memory clock over 1300-1350 decreases perfomance.
Also i didn't found any unigine scores that are close to mine, all above 1000.
Whats the cpu impact on the score?
The vcore im having right now is 1.125. Should i increase it?

Thank's.

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May 26, 2011 7:10:35 AM

your speed CPU need balance with 5770 vapor, if u do overclock your CPU your score will up.
May 26, 2011 7:15:06 AM

Im waitting for my cpu cooler to start the oc.
I just want to know how much i can get from this card.For example if i set my mem to 1440(max) and is stable i will have decreased perfomance?
Thats what i read.
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May 26, 2011 7:26:41 AM

your GPU stay in default don't overclock it , this can cause bottleneck
when ypur system bottleneck your system still stable but your score cannot Up , and maybe Down. :) 
May 26, 2011 7:35:09 AM

OK got it. Thanks
Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 is enough for me to get my cpu to 3,1-3,2 with reasonable temps, right?
May 26, 2011 9:58:11 AM

I have read that review. Thats how i decided to get it.
Its not up to me to keep him cool thats why i buy new cooler.
With the stock cooler after one hour in prime95 maxed at 74-69-70-70 (hot enough).
May 26, 2011 9:33:48 PM

malmental have u overclocked urs
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May 27, 2011 12:24:06 AM

zeron said:
Hello.
I startred to oc my gpu and now with 900 core/1320 mem i have these results:
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae137/zeron2862/Unig...

And i have some questions..(after googling im a bit confused :pt1cable:  )

I read that increasing memory clock over 1300-1350 decreases perfomance.
Also i didn't found any unigine scores that are close to mine, all above 1000.
Whats the cpu impact on the score?
The vcore im having right now is 1.125. Should i increase it?

Thank's.


The DDR5 video ram used on the cards has the ability to recover from errors, but when this happens it does hurt performance. So if you push the OC of your video ram too far, it will cause errors and result in slower performance.
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May 27, 2011 5:11:37 AM

zeron said:
Hello.
I startred to oc my gpu and now with 900 core/1320 mem i have these results:
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae137/zeron2862/Unig...

And i have some questions..(after googling im a bit confused :pt1cable:  )

I read that increasing memory clock over 1300-1350 decreases perfomance.
Also i didn't found any unigine scores that are close to mine, all above 1000.
Whats the cpu impact on the score?
The vcore im having right now is 1.125. Should i increase it?

Thank's.



Those temps are totally fine and yes you can up your voltage on it I think 1.3 is the max option for that card... I want that card!!! you can oc the hell out of that thing man I got a sapphire 5770 i bricked one trying to flash to your cards bios actually 2 nights ago...just a bad decision on my end but anyways I consider myself an expert now with this series of cards...my card has no voltage control (thats why i flashed) and Im running stable clocks @1050/1490 stock is850/1200 with a max in ccc of 960/1350 or 1450 and i could only get to 950/1333 in ccc and run stable
MY ADVICE
1. get rid of ccc!
2.download trixx sapphire tweak utility
3.utilize the fan control
4. overclock
i bet if you over volt it slightly NOT to the max you could get your card to well over 1000 you card is the high end of my card and like i said i got stock voltage with wicked high oc, you could probly get that card to 1150 maybe higher for core speeds
with these 5770s its safe to game all day long at high 80s like 88 89 and not do any harm to them its when you get to the 95- 100 range thats no good but aftermarket cooler are not that expensive so if you are running high 80s then just to be safe you should get one or just wire up anoter fan to blow over your card or to vent the bottom of the case you WILL notice a good diffrence with you high load tests as for memory it all depends what chips you have in there and where and who made them all a factor on how fast you can up you memory before it starts looping back.
How much did you pay for that card and where do you live like not exact adress but noth America somewhere else? Im in canada alberta my low version card cost me 130 bucks yesterday went on sale from 150canadian of course....ooohh I wish i had your version. oh if you go to trixx and use that for ocing dont worrie that its not on the support list....mines not and thats what Im using....hittting a score in 3dmark06 ave of 19500 which rocks for this card
May 27, 2011 2:33:31 PM

bystander said:
The DDR5 video ram used on the cards has the ability to recover from errors, but when this happens it does hurt performance. So if you push the OC of your video ram too far, it will cause errors and result in slower performance.


Ok so if i overdoit it will cause permanent loss in perfomance?

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Those temps are totally fine and yes you can up your voltage on it I think 1.3 is the max option for that card... I want that card!!! you can oc the hell out of that thing man I got a sapphire 5770 i bricked one trying to flash to your cards bios actually 2 nights ago...just a bad decision on my end but anyways I consider myself an expert now with this series of cards...my card has no voltage control (thats why i flashed) and Im running stable clocks @1050/1490 stock is850/1200 with a max in ccc of 960/1350 or 1450 and i could only get to 950/1333 in ccc and run stable
MY ADVICE
1. get rid of ccc!
2.download trixx sapphire tweak utility
3.utilize the fan control
4. overclock
i bet if you over volt it slightly NOT to the max you could get your card to well over 1000 you card is the high end of my card and like i said i got stock voltage with wicked high oc, you could probly get that card to 1150 maybe higher for core speeds
with these 5770s its safe to game all day long at high 80s like 88 89 and not do any harm to them its when you get to the 95- 100 range thats no good but aftermarket cooler are not that expensive so if you are running high 80s then just to be safe you should get one or just wire up anoter fan to blow over your card or to vent the bottom of the case you WILL notice a good diffrence with you high load tests as for memory it all depends what chips you have in there and where and who made them all a factor on how fast you can up you memory before it starts looping back.
How much did you pay for that card and where do you live like not exact adress but noth America somewhere else? Im in canada alberta my low version card cost me 130 bucks yesterday went on sale from 150canadian of course....ooohh I wish i had your version. oh if you go to trixx and use that for ocing dont worrie that its not on the support list....mines not and thats what Im using....hittting a score in 3dmark06 ave of 19500 which rocks for this card


Im going to uninstall ccc , I know its a bit crapy with all these 3d settings that slow down games. In my older cards i installed only display driver. I'm gonna try trixx and tell u the results.I just cannot find someone to compare our results.
Im in Greece and when i bought the card one year ago had 170 euros.
Also i dont see much improvement from oc. Ok numbers are increasing in gpu-z but in benchmarks i gain 0,5 fps
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May 27, 2011 3:59:02 PM

zeron said:
Ok so if i overdoit it will cause permanent loss in perfomance?

Quote:
Those temps are totally fine and yes you can up your voltage on it I think 1.3 is the max option for that card... I want that card!!! you can oc the hell out of that thing man I got a sapphire 5770 i bricked one trying to flash to your cards bios actually 2 nights ago...just a bad decision on my end but anyways I consider myself an expert now with this series of cards...my card has no voltage control (thats why i flashed) and Im running stable clocks @1050/1490 stock is850/1200 with a max in ccc of 960/1350 or 1450 and i could only get to 950/1333 in ccc and run stable
MY ADVICE
1. get rid of ccc!
2.download trixx sapphire tweak utility
3.utilize the fan control
4. overclock
i bet if you over volt it slightly NOT to the max you could get your card to well over 1000 you card is the high end of my card and like i said i got stock voltage with wicked high oc, you could probly get that card to 1150 maybe higher for core speeds
with these 5770s its safe to game all day long at high 80s like 88 89 and not do any harm to them its when you get to the 95- 100 range thats no good but aftermarket cooler are not that expensive so if you are running high 80s then just to be safe you should get one or just wire up anoter fan to blow over your card or to vent the bottom of the case you WILL notice a good diffrence with you high load tests as for memory it all depends what chips you have in there and where and who made them all a factor on how fast you can up you memory before it starts looping back.
How much did you pay for that card and where do you live like not exact adress but noth America somewhere else? Im in canada alberta my low version card cost me 130 bucks yesterday went on sale from 150canadian of course....ooohh I wish i had your version. oh if you go to trixx and use that for ocing dont worrie that its not on the support list....mines not and thats what Im using....hittting a score in 3dmark06 ave of 19500 which rocks for this card


Im going to uninstall ccc , I know its a bit crapy with all these 3d settings that slow down games. In my older cards i installed only display driver. I'm gonna try trixx and tell u the results.I just cannot find someone to compare our results.
Im in Greece and when i bought the card one year ago had 170 euros.
Also i dont see much improvement from oc. Ok numbers are increasing in gpu-z but in benchmarks i gain 0,5 fps




No over volting that card I would say its ok that card is made for overclocking. but I just got up here gotta go to work but wanted to check your progress. BUT yes over volting it TOO much WILL damage you card in the long run. I think you will be quiet impressed with how good your card actually is and the boost you can get from the right set up... I have never tried that unigin but Ill download it tonight and score my card so you have somethin kinda to go by.....like I said your card is the high end of these cards and you should surpass my clock speeds and I have no trouble at all with any of mt ati cards running them hard. I have never burnt one out or found any perfomance loss int these newer ati cards as well. If that trixx recognizes you card and IM 99.9% sure it will your laghin man you can turn that 170 card into a 300$ card. Im pretty exited about this helpin ya out cuz with my low end card I use a bench mark tool called 3Dmark06 to get my scores if you read this before I get back to you try out that program....with my card I am reachin a max score of 18700....where as stock it gets me around 16000. 3dmark06 is a great gfx bench marking tool.
May 27, 2011 7:51:06 PM

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correct me if I am wrong but I thought that CCC had to be installed to set-up Eyefinity.
the gfx card alone with just native drivers is not able to do so.?


CCC is a general suite made for easy access and dont bother to find other progs for tweaking. Nvidia if i remember well lets u costumize only the physix/color tone/resolution and other simple stuff.
May 27, 2011 8:13:26 PM

In CCC ati wanted to combine all progs that some1 may needed with some extra features that ati cards were compatible. Yoy can make 3-monitor with many progs but eyefininity is specially made from ati for ati cards. Thats how i see it.

A question:
my rams are ddr3 1333Mhz. After overclocking a bit my cpu this raised to 1371Mhz. Should i put it stable from bios?
Also after quick math :)  my opinion is to keep it stable so it will be closer to 1:1 or it is going to bottleneck my rams?


Trixx (latest version supports even 6970) downloaded>same like MSI Afterburner wich is the one im using
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May 28, 2011 1:46:24 AM

hey there so you downloaded trixx? and can you move the sliders for your clocks? and dont worrie about the support page, download it and see if it works...it6 should with your gfx card... it recognizes mine it does not mention my card there but thats what Im using to oc. And it lets you clock higher than ccc....just got home so get back asap @ your convenience. The info I can give you will make your 5770 comprte with some of the newest cards out there. amd by a general rule clock your gfx and have tou cpu @ stock....t6hats the way to find how stable you are. once you do that you oc your cpu and will gain even more from your gfx card
and your ram freq all depends on what your mobo will let it do....I have 4 gig mushkin( not high spec) ram which is 1333 but Im runnin about 1450 with no problems and no voltage control. ys and the ratio....in my opinoin is not that important unless your running you system HARD 24/7. if you do get any error msgs and it has a code or 0x000000a1 or to that effect that means memory setting problems. I would love to see how much that card can do...like I said I am highly impressed with what my card can do and I got the low end you have the higher end of the card
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May 28, 2011 1:47:19 AM

does trixx read your card ? Can you use the sliders?
a b U Graphics card
May 28, 2011 1:52:13 AM

Im sorry are you running more than 1 monitor?
May 28, 2011 9:45:25 AM

viper_69 said:
does trixx read your card ? Can you use the sliders?


Yep it recognized my card. Read all my gpu specs and i can move the sliders.

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Im sorry are you running more than 1 monitor?


Just one ( Samsung Syncmaster T200HD 20" 1680x1050)

Motherboard says DDR3 1333(1600 OC). So i suppose im fine.
5770 Vapor-x OC edition its high end on its class (mid-range gpus). I dont think that its a high end card and from now on its not compettitive at all, new technologies( better tesseletion, more shaders, faster bus speed).I bought this one because its a good card and my overall system would bottleneck other, better cards.
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May 28, 2011 11:29:06 AM

5770 is the perfect entry into high end gaming, it is just good enough to make you want more when you see how well it works, good overclock OP the memory does nothing for me past 1350mhz ....
May 28, 2011 12:27:10 PM

Im currently on this stage:

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May 28, 2011 4:01:40 PM

ht://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/05/28/c7p.png.....just copy paste it to your browser i and make sure at the front its http ....dont know why it wont work in a link..I dont know how to put a link to just click on but it you copy and paste the above you can see what my LOW end is capable of without ccc and have been running those clocks for a bit....I did buff up the core 20 today but those are the kind of numbers you can go past with that card....granted that every card is different even in the same brand just by a bit I cant seem to run that unigine on my pc for some reason...I would have liked to put those scores up too to see how they compare....but your core clock is more important than your memory for getting a higher framrate but just slide that up and your framerates will jump around till you slide up your memory a bit...or alot. of course it took me a good couple days to get my card to work with my games at this speed....some times I would get red dots up in the corner of my screen which just means the card needed more power so had to back off some for some games....well just one inmy case ....shift 2 was the game giving me that problem ...game ran fine but those dots were irritating
and thats exactly why I tried to flash to your bios....oh i guess it links it up automatic...cool
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May 28, 2011 9:13:15 PM

Just for the record
ATI 5770 960 core
1350 mem

done in CCC no voltage adjustment
AMD overclock tool 1000mhz core no voltage bump
May 29, 2011 6:12:22 AM

Quote:
Just for the record
ATI 5770 960 core
1350 mem

done in CCC no voltage adjustment
AMD overclock tool 1000mhz core no voltage bump

In CCC max settings are 960-1440. If i get there without problems im gona hold the mem clock stable because i dont know where it loops back and i will raise core clock.

Quote:
^
nice adjustments, good work.

Thank you

this one would be nice: :) 
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae137/zeron2862/Unig...
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May 29, 2011 10:03:14 PM

Do not overclock the memory to 1440mhz 1350 at the most.

Sorry I sounded like a dick. do what you want but it will more than likely hurt instead of help
May 30, 2011 3:13:40 PM

Ok i will keep it 1350 and when i reach max core clock we will see...Now im at 920-1350 and im waitting for my coolers, in order to be safer.
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May 30, 2011 8:52:33 PM

spentshells said:
Do not overclock the memory to 1440mhz 1350 at the most.

Sorry I sounded like a dick. do what you want but it will more than likely hurt instead of help




well I have mine clocked @1606 for memory and with no problems but tried to see i maybe got better performance from downing my mem clock to 1350...but when I did that my rig froze and had to to a hard reboot lowered my mem to 1333(which ccc would only let me clock to stably to) and ran 3d and got a lower score in 3dmark than havin my mem up over 1350....I know every set up is different it many ways but why do you say max of 1350? just curious....I am not an expert at circuitry and if you think you know more about that then I have another thread on how to pencil mod my hd5770 that I have had up for days with no help searched around found every card but mine...hmmm go figure
May 30, 2011 11:12:12 PM

1606??With all the respect...WTF :) ...You passed 100Gb/s bandwidth?
Have u tested a game?(before>after OC)
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May 30, 2011 11:25:55 PM

Start getting errors then the mem has to correct itself.
a b U Graphics card
May 31, 2011 12:04:04 AM

yeah Im playin stuff right now...just got out of brink, and I KNOW about the clock settings thats why I want to try and shade the resistors to get more power since mine does NOT support over volting but I cant find anyone who knows about it.....and yeah i really didnt see that much improvement or any really at a quality level since im limited to 800 shaders but overall frame rates have gone way up and I can seem to play any current games @ max settings....we will see how far this card can push it tho ...gonna raise it up another 10/30 next week and see if i end up blowin the card or somethin.....I deffinatly know these are not anywhere close to the clocks you are suppost to get with any of these cards....my last one could not pass 1050core with out it screwin up my system after hittin that apply or test button http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/05/28/c7p.png
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May 31, 2011 12:07:04 AM

finally got the link to work
a b U Graphics card
May 31, 2011 12:09:18 AM

it was FUN for the first 2 days but its the only online game i got right now and yes your so right I give that game maybe a 5 out of 10.....maybe
a b U Graphics card
May 31, 2011 12:58:07 AM

what do you mean by the smart tech?
a b U Graphics card
May 31, 2011 12:59:30 AM

anyways zeron...how is the overclocking coming along?
a b U Graphics card
May 31, 2011 1:21:22 AM

Thats a cool vid thx! yeah it has some bugs to be worked out But overall I find them OK not great...I also play with a controller I find it fun but it gets old quick...poorly built maps for online play
May 31, 2011 2:58:39 PM

I'm curently at 930-1350. Just waitting my cpu cooler/case fans in order to proceed. :) 
Because after 10 mins stability test stays at 69C. A little high.

A question:
If i increase my volts from 1125->1130 core clock/mem clock max settings will rise?
Or it needs bigger changes?
a b U Graphics card
May 31, 2011 8:15:57 PM

yeah you should be able to go a bit farther with that overvolt but not by much at all....and those temps are perfectly fine for a stress test for your card....just for the fact it will run everything on your card to its limits where most games wont....another way I got my temps down on MY card was to reapply some good thermal paste instead of the generic stuff they put on these things and found I dropped an extra 5-7 degrees under load which I think is a good cooling drop.... have you downloaded any programs that let you adjust your fan curve?
June 1, 2011 12:00:36 AM

Fan curve=fan speed or how it reacts when temps rise? I can adjust it from MSI AB and CCC but auto is fine
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June 1, 2011 3:14:46 AM

viper_69 said:
yeah you should be able to go a bit farther with that overvolt but not by much at all....and those temps are perfectly fine for a stress test for your card....just for the fact it will run everything on your card to its limits where most games wont....another way I got my temps down on MY card was to reapply some good thermal paste instead of the generic stuff they put on these things and found I dropped an extra 5-7 degrees under load which I think is a good cooling drop.... have you downloaded any programs that let you adjust your fan curve?


I also did this and I even applied some CM junk and the temps still came down a few
!