E8400 core 2 dua vs. Phenom ii 550 - just curious

[yannifb]

I was wondering how close these two chips were in performance, the reason being the 550 is about 70 USD cheaper. So any charts and bench's would be appreciated

 

[GhislainG]

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts/benchmarks,60.html

 

[jimishtar]

E8400 eats 550 for breakfast.

 

[daship]

If your considering a e8400 and you want to save some $$$ Let me load some tests I just run and linke em to you. Hold on.

I got a $50 G31 chipset motherboard with a e3200 in today. The e3200 will run 4.0 on a better motherboard but my g31 doesn't like going over 300FSB. 12x multiplier @ 300FSB 3.6 on stock cooler 32C idle 58C prime 95 load. This baby screams. 6.8 on Win 7 wie.

Benches in a sec. I'm not a gamer so I only got a 8400gs, but I have a spare ati 4870 sitting here.

 

[megamanx00]

The E8400 is faster. Even if you consider overclocking the E8400 is better. Of course with the 550 you have the possibility of unlocking extra cores and depending how that goes the picture of value changes. Anyway a more direct competitor to the PII 550 is the Core2 E7400, though the 550 is generally a little faster

 

[megamanx00]

I should also mention that when considering overclocking there are plenty of good 785G boards that will overclock the PII 550 just fine, especially with it's unlocked multiplier, but generally you will need to spend more on a decent board for the E8400 as you need to overclock via the FSB. If you go Intel get a P45 board. The P43 boards generally aren't as good for overclocking and thus an older P35 board would prove a better option if you can't afford a decent P45 board. When considering overclocking it's always a good idea to review and compare boards to see just how well they do at it.

 

[daship]

As you can see the Phenom II 550 is the worst chice, and did I mention my little e3200 was $52.00 free shipping? My chip has more OC potential but my $50 motherboard dont

 

[daship]

My 8400GS scores low, but as I said, I'm not a gamer.

 

[OvrClkr]

E8400 eats 550 for breakfast.

I wouldnt say "EAT" .... The 550 is 70.00$ cheaper and it still can hang with the E8400 regardless... Anyone have any 3dmark06 screenies using a E8400? Basically if you buy an E8400 at this moment you are throwing money away since there are better options out at that price.. With a 550 you cannot go wrong since it is 99.99$ and you can basically overclock to extreme speeds with minimal effort... Not saying that the E8400 is a bad CPU, just not worth 179.99$

 

[daship]

I wouldnt say "EAT" .... The 550 is 70.00$ cheaper and it still can hang with the E8400 regardless... Anyone have any 3dmark06 screenies using a E8400? Basically if you buy an E8400 at this moment you are throwing money away since there are better options out at that price.. With a 550 you cannot go wrong since it is 99.99$ and you can basically overclock to extreme speeds with minimal effort... Not saying that the E8400 is a bad CPU, just not worth 179.99$

Ya well the 550 is not worth $99 either. If you look at the graph of the 550 stock and 8400 stock, Id say eat is an acceptable word.

 

[daship]

Can you post your 3dmarko6 score? I like to see what your CPu score is, dont you think 1.45 vcore is a little high?

 

[OvrClkr]

Can you post your 3dmarko6 score? I like to see what your CPu score is, dont you think 1.45 vcore is a little high?

Not really, it fluctuates between 1.42/1.47v (1.45v is the value in the BIOS) ..........

@ 3.520Ghz

@ 3.985Ghz

not bad for 99.99$ heh?

 

[daship]

Ima run 3do6 now obviously im just checking CPU score as I have 8400GS

LOL just noticed XP gross. Im running 7 rtm 64bit Dont feel like installing XP just to get a little boost.

 

[daship]

Not bad for $52.00, now im temped to throw it on the p43 with my 4870 and see what she got at 4.0

Your $100 chip is about 300 faster @ 3.9 then mine @ 3.6 and your on XP and im on Win 7, so pretty much neck and neck if were both on xp. But I spent $50 and you spent $99 plus $$ for a cooler?

 

[OvrClkr]

[url]http://www2.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/83680283594734cd3ffb3d9362061e705g.jpg[/URL]

Not bad for $52.00, now im temped to throw it on the p43 with my 4870 and see what she got at 4.0

Your $100 chip is about 300 faster @ 3.9 then mine @ 3.6 and your on XP and im on Win 7, so pretty much neck and neck if were both on xp. But I spent $50 and you spent $99 plus $$ for a cooler?

Well why did you cover the score with the CPU-Z box? What was the score?

What is the stock clock on that Celeron? Are you using a cooler or a stock sink?

I am using an Artic Freezer 64 :

 

[daship]

The final score was ***, 8400GS, like I said, I was only interested in CPU scores, if I wanted to shoot the moon on GPU scores Id drop in the 4870.

Stock clock is 2.4, yes Im running stock heatsink, its about 1/2" aluminum piece of crap.

 

[OvrClkr]

Ya well the 550 is not worth $99 either. If you look at the graph of the 550 stock and 8400 stock, Id say eat is an acceptable word.

Not really, if you did the math you would see that you are paying 70.00$ for a rough 12% increase in performance (Stock Clocks). To me that is not considered "EAT" , if both processors were priced the same then yes you would be 100% correct....

Normally an E8600 @ 4.0Ghz/GTX 260 will score around 17,340+ ..... Look at how much the E8600 costs compared to the 550 ...

280.00$, same as the i7 920

Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Wolfdale 3.33GHz 6MB L2 Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115054&cm_re=E8600-_-19-115-054-_-Product

 

[OvrClkr]

The final score was ***, 8400GS, like I said, I was only interested in CPU scores, if I wanted to shoot the moon on GPU scores Id drop in the 4870.

Stock clock is 2.4, yes Im running stock heatsink, its about 1/2" aluminum piece of crap.

[url]http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/536e5cb838b1d50069277ab115872ead2g.jpg[/URL]

Drop the 4870 and we can both bench at whatever clocks you prefer......

 

[threednonsense]

Hahahahaha! I couldn't stop laughing when I found out that this was Intel's new celeron... AMD is in trouble...

I'd like to participate, but I am currently waiting for a motherboard replacement since I fried the other one because of a foil mod. Yeah... Perhaps using the thermal pen was appropriate... LOL!

Ovrclkr, your going to lose if he does that man...

 

[daship]

First go grab yourself a real OS. XP gives you a huge jump compred to Vista/7.

e8400 $167 and it can run 4.0 on stock cooler You paid $100 plus $40 ish for a cooler, $5.00 for paste?

 

[threednonsense]

@daship

While it's nice that you explored the celeron offering. Why didn't you just step up to the e5xxx series?

I admit though, it crossed my mind to sell my chip to get that celeron, it looks like a lot of fun.

 

[daship]

Hahahahaha! I couldn't stop laughing when I found out that this was Intel's new celeron... AMD is in trouble...

I'd like to participate, but I am currently waiting for a motherboard replacement since I fried the other one because of a foil mod. Yeah... Perhaps using the thermal pen was appropriate... LOL!

Ovrclkr, your going to lose if he does that man...

LOL its a bad ass chip. If Ima do it ima do it right and crank it to 4.0 plus on my other motherboard. And we gonna do it on the same OS, if you cant get Win 7 Ill load up XP I got my technet keys for it all and I havent used any XP ones yet.

 

[threednonsense]

Unless your trying to hit 4.5+ ghz on the e8xxx models, there's no point in paying the premium for it really.

 

[daship]

@daship

While it's nice that you explored the celeron offering. Why didn't you just step up to the e5xxx series?

I admit though, it crossed my mind to sell my chip to get that celeron, it looks like a lot of fun.

I got e5200 and e5300, they cost more and OC the exact same. Saw the e3200 had to try it. Cache hasnt really ever impressed me vs a good high overclock.

e3200 is same chip with 1MB less cache.

I like to build cheap hackingtoshes that out bench $1900 imacs.

 

[threednonsense]

LOL its a bad ass chip. If Ima do it ima do it right and crank it to 4.0 plus on my other motherboard. And we gonna do it on the same OS, if you cant get Win 7 Ill load up XP I got my technet keys for it all and I havent used any XP ones yet.

Nice, yeah, I was actuallly waiting around for his response. LOL!