that's a I7 isn't?
That's absolutely brilliant!
1.475V though? What's the vcore limit on 32nm?
Dont think he cares about a vcore limit
I want one of these bad boys.... but really, was the air pre-chilled with LN2 or something? Now way that should be possible with SIX cores...
And yes, CPU-Z reads it as an i7 simply because every CPU has to be manually inserted into the program. Check the cores and threads... 6 cores, 12 threads, say hello to the i9.
Wait...kingpin can only get 4.6ghz on air? A master overclocker, and that's all he can get on 32nm?
What happened to them all going to 5ghz on air? If 4.6ghz is the best Kingpin can do then the rest of you had better be happy with a bit less.
6 cores at 5.0ghz, whats the world cumming to

| jennyh wrote : Wait...kingpin can only get 4.6ghz on air? A master overclocker, and that's all he can get on 32nm?
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I'd be happy with 4Ghz. 12HT's = Sex
4.6 GHz on air.......... man i want that cpu. (then again who doesn't)
| jennyh wrote : Wait...kingpin can only get 4.6ghz on air? A master overclocker, and that's all he can get on 32nm?
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That's a hex. The quads should get higher, and the duals should get higher still. In addition, newer steppings will also improve OC ability - look at what D0 did for the i7. Honestly, 4.6 on air is nothing to be complaining about with a hex at this point.
| Kraynor wrote : I want one of these bad boys.... but really, was the air pre-chilled with LN2 or something? Now way that should be possible with SIX cores...
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I laughed at the LN2 comment.
I agree this is very impressive, I hope these come in at a decent price point.
And yet we see Core i9 w/ 6 cores, 12 threads overclocked to 4.6ghz on air, while we see Phenom II 965 barely overclocked to 3.8Ghz~4.0Ghz on air w/ 4 cores, 4 threads.
Double standard.. I see
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i fixed it for you
And yet we see Core i9 w/ 6 cores, 12 threads overclocked to 4.6ghz on air, while we see Phenom II 965 barely overclocked to 3.8Ghz~4.0Ghz on air w/ 4 cores, 4 threads.
Double standard.. I see
uh, this is 32nm, almost 15nm less than current gen, u cant compair oc numbers, and im willing to believe this air was colder than usual 22*c ambient

| cjl wrote : 1.475V though? What's the vcore limit on 32nm? |
Yea, I noticed that first too! Crazy if you ask me! Isn't the Vcore suppose to go down with every gen of processors? The 65nm, were at 1.5v and the 45nms were 1.3625v. I'm really curious about the actual recommended Vcore for the 32nm's.
Wonder how AMD is going to answer the i9, Bulldozer better be one hell of a chip!

Well, as was pointed out above it took 1.47 to get there....I can get my 920 C0 that high for a screenshot if I'm willing to fry it. Notice coretemp is already in the 50s with 0 load. I have high hopes for the i9, but as always we shouldn't buy into any hype until they actually release.
With the I9's and soon to be released I3's. Is intel trying to squash Amd?
| cjl wrote : That's a hex. The quads should get higher, and the duals should get higher still. In addition, newer steppings will also improve OC ability - look at what D0 did for the i7. Honestly, 4.6 on air is nothing to be complaining about with a hex at this point. |
It's pretty good yes, but we are talking about a professional overclocker here. For me that is worth at least 500mhz, possibly even more.
6 cores at 4ghz is nothing to be sneezed at of course, but I think that will probably end up being a lot higher than the average 6 core cpu gets near.
| PsychoSaysDie wrote : With the I9's and soon to be released I3's. Is intel trying to squash Amd? |
AMD just released a quad core almost the equal of a Q8200 at $99. It's something like 5% slower costing 60% less than intel's cheapest quad. Which one would you buy?
| jennyh wrote : AMD just released a quad core almost the equal of a Q8200 at $99. It's something like 5% slower costing 60% less than intel's cheapest quad. Which one would you buy? |
How does it compare to the 750? I would never touch the 775 chips with a 10 foot pole these days.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20230
Anand also has a nice review of it. It's not competing against the i5, it costs less than half what the i5 does.
| jennyh wrote : http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20230
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There are very mixed reviews of the 620, but comparing it to a chip nobody buys is not a good way to review it. Compare it to the other cpus in the same price range and you'll see it is at best a sideways move. It is not optimized to compete with "real" quad cores, and it is too slow and lacks good overclocking ability to compete with the dual cores in the same price range. Its just a marketing ploy.
I haven't seen any bad reviews of the 620 tbh.
The 550 BE is a great little chip but I can't see any reason why you'd take it before the 620 X4 now. It's a slow process but it's still moving toward multi cores, and there are enough benches showing the X4 620 beating even the top intel dual cores to make that clear enough.
For a gaming chip the 550 BE still rocks, but for anything else I'd take this X4 620 in a heartbeat.
AMD's main focus is on the value segment. I mean tbh, they haven't touched Intel's top end for quite some time. It makes sense that they compete in another area that they will have more success in.
A quad for 99$ is a great deal, even tho it lacks L3 cache, but it's performance is admirable for the price.
I mean, now people who were reluctant to upgrade due to budget constraints can get a decent performing quad-core comp for ~500$, that is a great deal.
The next closest quad is the Q8200, at ~160.

| jennyh wrote : I haven't seen any bad reviews of the 620 tbh.
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So as soon as all your so called sites that are on intels payroll do a review that is good for a AMD cpu.......... ALL THESE SITES ARE GETTING PAID BY AMD!!!
| someguy7 wrote : So as soon as all your so called sites that are on intels payroll do a review that is good for a AMD cpu.......... ALL THESE SITES ARE GETTING PAID BY AMD!!! |
lol...okay, I'm glad you said it. I was going to avoid that. What I meant by mixed reviews is that I haven't seen anything yet that shows it performs better than the 550BE or Intels $100 duals when you take into account their higher clocks and better overclocking. At stock speed the results are mixed, with the 620 winning a few, and the duals winning a few. So my point was, it doesn't GAIN anything over what we already have. Its just another decent choice at an already crowded price point. Marketing wise it might work...people are already buying into the gimmick.
| jennyh wrote : http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20230
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50 dollars more would get me a 750
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0317379
| jennyh wrote : I haven't seen any bad reviews of the 620 tbh.
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The difference between both CPU's is easy, the 620 is a weak quad that should be able to achieve at least 3.5Ghz on Air, but it has no real cache and that is the downside... The 550 might unlock to a stable quad and if not you still end up with a fast dual that has a good amount of L3...
It's like having a crappy dual "cheeseburger" nothing special ........ Something similar to an Agena......
Here is the link :
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
Do you have any links that show the 620 beating Intels top duals?
well, lets hope i9 wont be more than 150W.
If it overclocks this well and was built on 32nm anyway, why didn't they just make the damn thing a 4,2 ghz quadcore instead of a 2.66ghz sixcore , then it would actually be useful for non-professional purposes...
i9 will be 130w, its been confirmed,
intel fanbois, 6 32nm cores at 4.6 on air, psh
12 45nm cores at 3.2 on air, undervolted
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3637/cpuz32.jpg

4.6 is expected concidering its a 32nm part
xaria - if that pic is true then its still got a bit to go - AMD needs ~400mhz more for desktop apps to beat an Intel, and on the server side its designed for, an 16 threaded Intel rig destroys a 16 core AMD rig if i remember correctly, but still, if its true then glory ahead
and i9 TDP - these things do idle verry well so you will rarely see that TDP reached under load because there are so many cores etc atleast theoretically.
Just put together gaming capable machine quote for under £450 for everything included , Pc, monitor 19", KB,Mouse, 2.1 speakers including Vista Home premium, and could not do it with decent performance from intel build, but got a level balanced machine with AMD/ATI build...
Mind you, If budget was for box only, it would have been a different story with intel i5 in the picture.
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