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nyle7220   07-06-2009 at 04:51:58 PM

In our family PC I don't have any PCIe slots just two PCI and one AGP. Would anyone suggest the best graphics card I can get for gaming? Thanks.

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megamanx00   07-06-2009 at 08:23:35 PM
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Depends on your system. The best cards are the AGP Radeon 3850 and 4650 (if you can get them to work) but if you have a weak system then it's kinda overkill. Also, if you have an inadequate PSU and try to put in the 3850 you could blow the whole thing.

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ct1615   07-06-2009 at 08:24:54 PM
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ATI 3650 or 3850 for your AGP slot, depends on your system specs and budget

3850 needs more power, with a weak CPU and/or PSU the 3650 would be a better fit

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nyle7220   07-06-2009 at 08:41:31 PM
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Oh, my system only takes DDR RAM and the RAM on them is DDR2 so they won't work?

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daedalus685   07-06-2009 at 08:44:04 PM
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No, the gpu ram has nothing at all to do with the ram in your system... It will work just fine.

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vouslavous   07-06-2009 at 09:20:19 PM
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You should list more of your system specs, then we can accurately determine which card is better suited for you

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cyberkuberiah   07-06-2009 at 09:57:34 PM
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if you have dual core go 3850 .

but if you have a single core cpu , go 3650 , u wont need a psu upgrade , and 3850 will be cpu limited anyway .

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nyle7220   07-06-2009 at 10:26:10 PM
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daedalus685 wrote :

No, the gpu ram has nothing at all to do with the ram in your system... It will work just fine.



Hi, so if my motherboards max. RAM is 2gb DDR and the 3650 is 512mb DDR2 does that mean I can still have the max. 2gb + the 512mb for the card?

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nyle7220   07-06-2009 at 10:30:56 PM
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vouslavous wrote :

You should list more of your system specs, then we can accurately determine which card is better suited for you



CPU: Intel Celeron D 346 3066MHz
MOBO: MSI PM8M2-V
RAM (DDR): Installed 256mb - Will install max. 2gb
OS: XP SP2 Media Centre Edition
Video: Onboard
Sound: Onboard

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ct1615   07-06-2009 at 10:34:52 PM
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nyle7220 wrote :

Hi, so if my motherboards max. RAM is 2gb DDR and the 3650 is 512mb DDR2 does that mean I can still have the max. 2gb + the 512mb for the card?



yes, windows XP (32bit i assume is what you have) will recognize over 2GB of ram

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megamanx00   07-06-2009 at 10:35:49 PM
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Go with this then

HIS H365F512ANP Radeon HD 3650 512MB $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161237

Anything faster, like a 4650, will pretty much be limited by your CPU. Since you didn't list your PSU I take it you have an emachine or something, but even it's weak PSU should be fine for a 3650.

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Jim_L9   07-06-2009 at 10:36:35 PM
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Go with the 3650 and you can have 2GB + the memory on the video card.

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nyle7220   07-06-2009 at 10:42:21 PM
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megamanx00 wrote :

Go with this then

HIS H365F512ANP Radeon HD 3650 512MB $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161237

Anything faster, like a 4650, will pretty much be limited by your CPU. Since you didn't list your PSU I take it you have an emachine or something, but even it's weak PSU should be fine for a 3650.



Thanks, and sorry don't know what PSU I have.

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nyle7220   07-06-2009 at 10:43:24 PM
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Thanks for all the answers. I know this isn't the right place to ask but would anyone suggest some good DDR400 RAM? (2x1gb)

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nyle7220   07-06-2009 at 10:44:17 PM
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Does the 3650 connect to the PSU or just the AGP slot?

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ct1615   07-06-2009 at 11:59:28 PM
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nyle7220 wrote :

Does the 3650 connect to the PSU or just the AGP slot?



connects to the PSU (and most use the older 4-pin connector)

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