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ATI’s Radeon HD 5870 and 5870X2 and GT300/ 216?

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July 7, 2009 8:09:48 PM

Nvdia GT216 or 300 series. + ATI’s Radeon HD 5870 and 5870x2. Does anyone know the deal with these cards (if and when they are coming out.) Does anyone know if they are what the specs will be. I'm wondering because I just ordered all my parts to my new build, but hesitated on buying my GPU. I can wait a few weeks, but if its over a month I might just have to go with my original choice of a 4870x2. Another factor is I keep hearing these rumors about DX11 being support on the new cards and other rumors saying otherwise. I'm trying to determine if it is worth waiting for with my build at the moment. The only real reason I would wait, is if i know the 5000 x2's will be close to twice the performance of the 4000 x2's. I have a feeling they are going to be a heavy price which will in turn drop the 4000x2 price. Basically theres alot of sh*t that is effecting my decision and I need some input. thanks

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a b U Graphics card
July 7, 2009 8:13:16 PM

The ATI cards shoudl be out around October, Nvidia January or later.

There are no words on Specs, just have to wait and see.

There is no point in thinkign about this kind of thing if you need parts today though. The only thing I can tell you for sure is whatever you buy will be replaced by something faster and cheeper in 6 months time, no matter when/what you buy.
a c 197 U Graphics card
July 7, 2009 8:26:08 PM

^ Annoying but true.
If I was building at this exact moment, I would look to a 'cheap' stop-gap card like a GTX260 or HD4870;They're fast enough for most games at sane resolutions and inexpensive enough to E-bay with minimal loss when the new cards come out. If the new stuff dissapoints then go SLI/CF, it'll be no different than the HD4870X2 you are considering now.
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July 8, 2009 1:45:13 AM

yea i agree thanks for the input, I just want a system that for future gaming will easily handle the frostbite engine ( bf series)
July 9, 2009 2:20:31 PM

Where does the 4770 fit in? It seems like it's the only 40nm process card on the market today. Is it RV870?

Are there any rumours of a 5770?
a b U Graphics card
July 9, 2009 2:24:50 PM

The 4770 was a part they released more or less to try and gain more market in the $100 price point (they ended up doing massive price drops instead). It was a good feet wetting for 40nm, nothing more.

TSMC had some issues with thier process though, so the yields were very poor. However, it should have gone a long way in working out the bugs before the 5000 series. As for a 5770, have to wait and see, probably be something equivalent eventually.
July 9, 2009 6:14:43 PM

those specs are pretty rediculous
July 9, 2009 7:39:30 PM

snow cakes said:
yea i agree thanks for the input, I just want a system that for future gaming will easily handle the frostbite engine ( bf series)

If it's anything like DICE's move from BF1942 to BF2, you'll be fine with any dual-core processor, mid-range graphics and about 128GB RAM. BF2 was never graphically impressive, but it sure ate RAM like hell. Most likely because everything is in individual .zip files so it takes twice as much RAM usage to decompress the files when loading a map than it should, but only the developers know.
a b U Graphics card
July 10, 2009 2:22:18 AM

coozie7 said:
^ Annoying but true.
If I was building at this exact moment, I would look to a 'cheap' stop-gap card like a GTX260 or HD4870;They're fast enough for most games at sane resolutions and inexpensive enough to E-bay with minimal loss when the new cards come out. If the new stuff dissapoints then go SLI/CF, it'll be no different than the HD4870X2 you are considering now.


Nothing wrong with this idea. A cheap 4870 will do you quite well for some time and should be somewhat competitive after the next series out. A the prices they are reaching after the recent cuts they are hard to pass up.
September 25, 2009 9:01:23 PM

With the performance envelope of the new ATI chipset being so insane I wouldn't even consider buying a next generation card with out a 30 inch monitor. A complete waste of money as a 4870 or a 285 can easily put very high details on any 1900 x 1200 and 2x AA on almost any actually good game with more than decent frame rates. I'd save the extra money for a high quality motherboard. I'd buy a 5850 maybe 9 months from now.

On the other hand, I'm not saying that the $1300 305T Samsung and 400 bucks for a 5870 HD isn't worth it either. But I'd have to pair them together. In fact it'd almost be foolish not to buy the 305T. Its more valuable than a big screen TV in my opinion and it'll last several card cycles and probably 2-3 entire computer makeovers. Plus if this coming GPU generation's firepower is any indication, 2560x1600 is only going to become more of the standard as well as the premium sooner rather than later.

However, Like most of you have said, Wait. At least until we can compare Nvidia's options and the price wars bring us happiness.
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