Will this all work?

[Mecha King]

I'm building my first computer and have been learning how and all, but I'm not very confident in my knowledge. I was wondering if this all would work too make a good computer.


AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131361

ASUS M4A79 Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131361

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supplyhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

MSI R4890-T2D1G OC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - OC Editionhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127427

And 2 sticks of 2GB Corrisair RAM (4 RAM) and a CD drive that I already have.

Also, if everything is fine, could you recomend a case that would fit all of this?

 

[mlcloud]

Hard drive?
Cooler Master 690, pretty well-known case.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

CPU cooler for overclocks, or no?

What monitor resolution will you be playing at? Then we can help you judge whether that 4890 is appropriate or not.

 

[Mecha King]

Oh yeah I forgot to post that I have a nice hard drive already. I'm not planning on overclocking and I play at 1200x768.

 

[mlcloud]

Well, I'll tell you now, you don't need the 4890 UNLESS you're planning to purchase another monitor in the near future. People planning to play at 1680*1050 at max settings or 1920*1200 at near-max settings purchase cards like the 4890; I'm at 1280*1024 atm with a 4890, but I certainly plan to purchase a monitor in the near future.

At that level, a 4770 or 4850 (or equivalent, Nvidia's 250 or 260) would be more than adequate.

In fact, I would even dare to recommend the 4670 or 3870 at that price point..

But anyways, if you're not purchasing a bigger monitor, I'd recommend you purchase a slightly cheaper graphics card and then sit tight for the new DX11 cards that should be coming out.

 

[Mecha King]

But I'm trying to build this to where I shouldn't have to upgrade any part of it for a year or two. If I got a lower graphics card would it still be able to play a bunch of stuff at max settings in about a year?

 

[mlcloud]

In a year DirectX 11 compatible cards should be out,which is why I'm saying you should spare some cash for the future. A few months ago I might have told you to splurge.... but I'm not sure you want to miss out on 40nm cards with DX11.

 

[Mecha King]

Yeah, but don't you have to have Windows 7 to use DX 11? Because I really want to stick with Vista. Plus I think I've found a better deal in buying 2 HD4870s, it's fairly cheap and leaves room for improvement.

 

[mlcloud]

Wrong, if DirectX (or Direct3d, whatever you want to call it) doesn't come out for Vista, many people will get angry *very* fast. The RC for windows 7 just has dx11 support already, but I sure you vista will have support.

And look, at 1200*768 gaming, you really don't NEED a 4870. I don't know why you'd bother to spend so much money. In fact, what I'd do is buy ONE 4870 and use the cash from the other 4870 to purchase a nice 22 or 24 inch monitor. You can usually find something good at a really low price range nowadays. Since you have the budget for it, that's the way I recommend you to go.

If you insist on using your 1200 * 768 monitor, then please spend the money on another hard drive or something. That would be the most cost-efficient way (in my opinion) to improve the performance of this new build, because the 2nd 4870 will do nothing at all. (Unless you have a monitor with some insane 120 refresh rate or something, but even then most human eyes can't tell the difference between 40 and 70 FPS, as long as neither drops below 30 at some point, so in other words; meaningless.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236053
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254035

But... hey. It's your computer. You can use two 4870s to game with your monitor and it'll be your business. I'm just saying, I don't see why you're buying a sledgehammer to break a glass vase, especially when newer models of that sledgehammer will be released in a year or two, cheaper and more efficient (this metaphor has gone wrong somewhere.) Are you expecting "another crysis" to come out or something?

(No gaming company could be that stupid... again.)

 

[Mecha King]

Thanks for the info. If I were to get one of those new moniters, then I would need 2 cards right? Otherwise I can stick with one card?

 

[Mecha King]

I'm sorry, I've told you wrong. I can use 1440x900 resolution, I just forgot because only a few of my games can use it.

 

[mlcloud]

As to whether you actually *need* two cards, it depends. What games will you play, at what settings? Crysis and Stalker 4x AA and maxed out AF really seems to kill cards, especially at 1080p+

My best recommendation would be to buy a monitor and one 4870... and if it's not good enough for you, grab that second 4870. But that leaves the risk of you overshooting your budget huh? Or grabbing a card you don't need...

I wish a few more people could share their opinion on this one =/, but in the meantime, here are a few 4870 and a few[er] 4870x2 benchmarks all on your friendly tomshardware site.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,2266.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-4770-crossfire,2288.html

I mean, as long as you're not looking to max out crysis and stalker:cs, then 4870 1gb will rock 1680 * 1050, and then some on 1080p. (You might even consider the 4850 for 1680 * 1050)

Oh yeah, and if you keep your current monitor, then one 4850 should be *more* than sufficient on any game that supports 1440*900, and perfectly kill the games that can only go up to 1200 * 768.

PS, if you choose to go with just one card, you can afford to get the 650TX or even the 550TX (although they're both the same price atm on Newegg at $99 vs the 750tx $119).

In the end, I think you're underestimating the power of these cards a bit =).

 

[Mecha King]

Well according to those tests, I should be more than able to play what I want (Crysis and other very needy games) with just one 4770. Those are about $100 each, so I could even get 2 (although I think I'll just start out getting 1 and see if I need another) for quite a bit less than a 4870 and get better performance. I think I'll wait to get another monitor though, but thanks a whole lot for the info, you really saved me a bunch of money. Thanks!

 

[Mecha King]

Oh, and to keep with the title of this thread, will this all work? Am I forgetting something? Any Recomnedations? (Revised)

Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131363

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674

Memory- (I already have this)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-20-145-184-_-Product

Power Supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

Video Card (I'll probably get two of these)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161279

Case (I'm not sure about this one, so any recomendations are very appriciated)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112025

CD/DVD Drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106275

 

[mlcloud]

Like I said in my 2nd post... 4770 or 4850 would have been adequate. Although I'm glad you were smart enough to wait for evidence before realizing that, I'm still kind of ticked you didn't believe me the first time.

Everything will work: As for the case, there are many potential recommendations out there. However that case, I'm tempted to avoid that Lian Li case (excellent case makers...) due to the 80mm case fans and the power-supply case cutout; it'll block part of the 750TX's fan grille. Plus people seem to say that while the case itself is pretty unobtrusive it has a pretty damn bright LED, apparently.

Someone else will have to make case recommendations though, since the only case I'm familiar with is the NZXT zero 2 which has the crappiest cable-management I've ever seen in a case and I don't read too many case reviews.

In addition to that Lian Li case, keep your options open and take a look at these uh.. "commonly used cases on Tomshardware" that I've seen so far.
Coolermaster 690, pretty popular around these parts.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137
Antec 900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
Antec nine hundred two (aka 902)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058
Pair of Cooler Master Haf 932 cases that has a strange design to me but seems to please others:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=cooler+master+haf&x=0&y=0

 

[fjc1998]

antec 1200
haf 922m

as for the cpu...I think the x4 is overkill .maybe the x3s.