[Solved] Hope AMD can keep up

yeah, its like amd lose the ground here.there must come something new,hopefully is not a good for business health only one control the world we talking about free world here in not the AMD fan or customer but to me is not a good view to see.

what are you talking about? Your making no sense. this is what im feeling like when im trying to read it...

what im say is some people like to see the intel monopoly the cPU market segment.what will happens if no competitor ?

New thread substance fail.


Nothing but pure flamebait.

yeah lot people out there dont know the effect, it like waiting a vampire to suck your blood dry ...hahahha...to keep that AMD must come something new a.s.a.p... right.god safe us all.

List the threads I started that were blatant AMD slams with no factual basis and outside news links. The answer is, you can't (with only one exception from 4/2/2007, a dark day in TC thread creation).

Jenny, the last thread I started was about a new AMD product coming out. I had some critical things to say, but also some good things to say, noting that Intel doesn't seem very appealing below the $200 mark.

Jenny, you tend to... um.... lie a lot?

Most of my threads (although not all) typically include a news article or review and quotations from the article or review along with commentary. I can only once recall creating a thread that I look back on as a mistake, and that was a looong time ago on 4/2/2007.

You claim I start "half" of the negative AMD threads when I have only created 33 threads since I first registered on 2/22/2006. 33 threads in 43 months. My earlier threads may not have been as good as my more recent threads. However, I'm rather proud of some of the attention catching names:

"AMD: Smoke and Mirrors?"
"AMD Issues "Stop Ship" Order for Opterons; TLB Errata Cripples K10"
"Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Phenom Fire - 140 Watts?" (<-- My personal favorite, it was Christmas time)
"AMD Drops QuadFX Like a Bad Habit"
"AMD Stock Plummets 25% in Response to K10 Release - Investors Scared"

My most 'critical' threads all have conclusion backed up with outside sources. This is different than your approach Jenny. While you don't create threads, you often post in them making wild, unverified claims, and even sometimes repeat claims that have already been proven to be false by other posters.

Jenny, you're nothing more than a FUD troll.

Of course, I'm sure you'll call me an Intel fanboy that has already, several times, recommended AMD products to people asking for advice in this forum this week alone.

JennyH = Lies

JennyH, no matter how much I 'care' about AMD and want healthy competition, PRETENDING that AMD is healthy competition won't make it ACTUAL healthy competition.

The one thing I have on my side is that I try to be truthful and honest. If I slam AMD, it is usually backed up by facts. Yes, the majority of my 33 threads are about NEWS ARTICLES that have negative news about AMD.

Yes, I own a Q8200 and an nVidia GPU. That doesn't take away from the Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton) I had, the Athlon 64 3200 I had, nor the Opteron 175 (S939) that I had. Solid YEARS of choosing AMD, back when they were the better choice with the better product.

As for the GPUs, AMD's new 5800's will simply be superior if priced reasonably (which they most likely will do). The early DX11 support alone puts it above others.

I don't have an issue recommending AMD products when they're the right answer. I also don't take issue with pointing at the failing tactics of a failing company that time and time again fails to execute. The financial statements alone tell the story.

First of all that is my thread

second of all good job starting another flame war, it seems everywhere i go, for a good discussion about AMD vs Intel, based on price/perf, arch, and overall reliability you have to come and ruin the whole mood and direction.

i see you constantly throwing personal blows at TC and Fazers, and then going so far ahead that you try to stalk them too. Seriously get a life, the Forums aren't everything, neither is AMD

Just put in valuable info about AMD and don't get mad just because someone got some random info about AMD wrong, just correct them and that way you get to be seeen as a nicer more reliable person and AMD gets the credit they deserve plus some extra popularity.

Popularity is something AMD needs, i mean seriously, i only saw 1 AMD desktop/laptop out of three at best buy, the ratio of Intels to amd was 3 to 1, 3:1, and most people prob look at AMD and say, "wow that computer must be crap, it doesn't have the blue sticker that says Intel on it, let's get the more expensive laptop it looks better with that blue sticker."

back to topic

AMD will not die, it will take a few months to a couple years for them to get back on their feet and throw another Athlon 64 at Intel and severely injure them

Meh, I think AMD will survive. They're in better standing now than they were back when the Phenom I came out. At least they have a competitive product.

AMD and Intel with both fall as the VIA empire cements its stranglehold over the entire CPU market.

Or Via is found strangled and encased in a cement block.

I'm a liar? Please elaborate. I've been nothing but truthful, including about my past posting history.

Quote me, directly, with a LINK to what I said, and then link to something that proves what I said to be false.

JennyH, on several occasions people have called you out on claims that are not consistent with what external sources say. You flat out made up a fake quote and put words in Fazers' mouth, and I called you out on it.

If I have ever said something that wasn't true I would like to know, as it would bother me to do so.

Come on guys, I don't want to have to lock a thread on page 1. This is not going to go anywhere different to every other thread.

And yes fazers, we know about AMD's last quarter results.

You lie every time you post another 'amd doom and gloom' thread. Nobody who actually cared about AMD or competition would go to the lengths you do to point out every flaw you can, while doing *nothing* to point out the good stuff.

On top of that, you accuse anyone who blames AMD's woes on intel - which is now 100% complete FACT in every non-american continent - of being paranoid? Like you know better than the hundreds of lawyers and officials who had to dig through millions of pages of text to get to the truth?

You pretend you care about AMD and competition and yet you fail to use the single most important means of levelling that competition, which is appealing to the conscience of every right thinking individual to *do what is right*.

And you call me a liar? What I do I do out of the sense that it is *right*. Does it annoy you that I simply won't stop like the others did? How many others have you and failzers and others managed to get rid off from THG so far with your ganging up against?

You won't get rid of me, because the 'lies' you accuse me of are actually deep seated feelings of doing what is right. The truth is, intel destroyed AMD through crooked behaviour and anyone who doesn't accept that is a liar to themselves.

And you can lock this one too Random


Sooner or later one is gonna have to be left open, because none of us are gonna budge on our positions.

Once again, please point out where I lied. Simply saying that I'm a liar doesn't make me one. For example, my most recent thread is about the Phenom X4 975 BE. Point out where I lied about it? I only made one peice of unverified speculation, and I labeled it as such within the thread.

Simply put, you'd rather throw rocks and make accusations because you can't prove your statement saying that I lie.

Like I said, the point is that you make these threads and pretend that you do it because you care about AMD. You don't, you are clearly an intel fanboy who tries to hide it. Nobody who cared about AMD, or was an AMD supporter, would relish creating so many 'bad news' threads like you do. I think it's pretty obvious why I know this? It's because I clearly *do* care about AMD and I am an AMD supporter.

Oh btw, you called me a liar first I believe?

The proof of that is?

Yarrrgh! LOL.

I'm exiting out of this one and I'm going to let things cool off. I don't want to run into forum-maritial issues.

I'm considering sigging that as well, aren't out-of-context quotes great? This thread is a gold mine.

Well in that case...

Ok fazers, your turn.

Competition is good. If AMD failed, Intel would charge $1000 for the lowest model i7.
Everyone would lose.

End of stupid thread.

You care so little you had to drag this thread up again? This is something you seem to do an awful lot of someguy. Why don't you practice what you preach?

Drag up?.... it was still on the top half of the first page...

Ok wait, only one of those could actually be called a 'lie' and it was in fact a mistake I made by reading on another website that the 8ghz Celeron was a one-off and possibly a fluke/bug. You will notice that I said 'THAT P4', clearly I was under the impression that this WAS a one-off. Lying? Be very careful when you accuse others of that, especially when a bit of logical thinking proves that it was a mistake and not a lie.

The rest is pure opinion and sensationalism if you want to call it that. Lies, no. I have a particular bee in my bonnet over liars.

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Haven't seen you explain that yet. Let's see how you fare. Or will it be like the other times instead? Better to just ignore it, that way you don't have to lie to yourself and everyone else.