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December 17, 2009 11:36:13 PM

I have 6GB (3x2GB) of GSKILL DDR3-1600. First the mobo recognized it at 1300, then I was getting BSOD's. Tweaking some things it seems like everything is ok yet I hear a clicking sound in my case at times. Im curious if I made a mistake getting GSKIll memory when Corsair is one of the most highly rated and hardly any issues. My first build had Corsair in it. Should I replace them sticks with Corsair? Im thinking of also bumping up my i7 920 up a little (I wanna pass 3GHZ) with a slight overclock. Im either thinking of updating the bios on my mobo, or replacing ram. Sometimes it gets unstable. Like the other night, my wife puts in her ipod in the USB port on the case and my system freezes...the mouse light was on but lost total control with keyboard (not lit) and mouse wouldnt move. I restarted and it froze at the post screen. When i shut it completely off, gave it 1 minute; everythng was fine....temp reading on mobo (on the mobo itself) showed 26. It hovers around 26-31. Any ideas?

My system:
Sapphire 4890 (OC edition)
LG 24" LCD
HAF 932
x22 LG DVD-RW
WD 1TB Caviar Black
WD Velociraptor 300GB
Auzentech Forte
Xigmatek Dark Knight Heatsink (damn its huge and fat!)
i7 920
6Gb ddr3-1600 GSKILL KIT (3x2)
Logitech Z5500 5.1 speakers
XFX x58 SLI mobo (A1)

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December 17, 2009 11:50:51 PM

Corsair and G. Skill are RAM distributors, not 'RAM 'chipmakers. Both use the same chipmakers to provide their products. So, perhaps contact their online support and ask which RAM has been tested and guaranteed to work in the MB.

Run the MB through some RAM configurators for tested RAM guaranteed to work.

http://www.crucial.com/index.aspx

http://www.corsair.com/configurator/default.aspx

http://www.kingston.com/

http://www.ocztechnology.com/support/motherboard/

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December 18, 2009 3:28:20 AM

Just a note some Gskill uses 1.5v, some use 1.6v and some use 1.65v all 3x2 1600 Gskill which do you have and did you set them as such.
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December 20, 2009 12:10:39 AM

I have GSKIll 3x2GB ddr3-1600 set at 1.65v. Orginally yes it was set at 1.5v and the motherboard was underclocking my RAM. It seemed more stable at 1.65v. The packaging said 1.6v-1.65v.
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December 20, 2009 12:13:21 AM

badge said:
Corsair and G. Skill are RAM distributors, not 'RAM 'chipmakers. Both use the same chipmakers to provide their products. So, perhaps contact their online support and ask which RAM has been tested and guaranteed to work in the MB.

Run the MB through some RAM configurators for tested RAM guaranteed to work.

http://www.crucial.com/index.aspx

http://www.corsair.com/configurator/default.aspx

http://www.kingston.com/

http://www.ocztechnology.com/support/motherboard/



At the time that i bought the XFX motherboard, GSKill wasnt on the list but I contacted GSKILL before I bought the RAM and they said, it should. XFS techies said the same thing. So I went with $95 RAM instead of Corsair which was 1xx something.
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December 20, 2009 1:22:13 AM

That's great, I spoke to G. Skill tech support a while back by email too before buying RAM and that got me some real nice Micron D9's they suggested. Otherwise I would have bought some lesser RAM I was asking about. I do not have an i7/X58. But, I recently built an AMD 940/780G. If I am overclocking the system BUS, I reduce the RAM speed from 1066Mhz. to 800Mhz. to allow for the increase in the system BUS taking the RAM with it. Reducing the RAM speed and letting the BUS take it back up with the overclock works pretty well with that system. It's the CPU you want to get the higher clock on. That little decrease in RAM speed can help to not stress out the OC and the slightly lower RAM speed doesn't make a whole ot of difference. I use the unlocked multiplier on the 940 to OC the system. I fnd setting the RAM at the lower 800MHz. smooths out the system when OCing. Anyway, maybe an email to Corsair tech support can get you some ideas on the perfect RAM for that X58 and lead to a great OC. It's a good idea.
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December 20, 2009 2:15:26 AM

G.Skill and Corsair are Top Notch brands. You didn't do anything wrong by purchasing G.Skill... As long as your sticks aren't faulty you have nothing to worry about...

The first thing you should do when you are installing the memory for the first time is to run memtest or equivalent, this way if your sticks pass you can rest assured that the freezing is not caused by the RAM...

Can you post a link to your board? The only XFX x58 that I could fine is this one :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and I am hoping you have a different one if it does indeed exist.....
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December 20, 2009 7:34:44 PM

OvrClkr said:
G.Skill and Corsair are Top Notch brands. You didn't do anything wrong by purchasing G.Skill... As long as your sticks aren't faulty you have nothing to worry about...

The first thing you should do when you are installing the memory for the first time is to run memtest or equivalent, this way if your sticks pass you can rest assured that the freezing is not caused by the RAM...

Can you post a link to your board? The only XFX x58 that I could fine is this one :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and I am hoping you have a different one if it does indeed exist.....



It was this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

<oops my appologies, I dont know why XFX is stuck in my head...The motherboard is EVGA> sorry for the confusion! Looking at the reviews and it seems the board has been taking a hit for a few months. Could lockups be caused if a sound card that is PCI-e (x1) be in pci-e 2.0 slot? The board is configured starting from top to bottom: with 2.0 PCIe slot on top, PCIe x1 slot, PCI-e 2.0 slot and 2 pci slots.

I ran memtest and there were no error messages.
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December 20, 2009 7:52:07 PM

I just realized, have I screwed up and for the past 7 months, I've been using RAM that isnt configured for this particualr mobo???? It's not listed in ram config on GSKILL's website. Can someone verify this, before I let out a very loud shhhhhiiiiiiii********!

http://www.gskill.com/configurator.php

exact motherboard: EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI

The sticks I have: G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8TU-6GBPI - Retail
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December 20, 2009 9:33:12 PM

The original post says XFX X58 SLI Mobo (A1). I was confused by this too.
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December 21, 2009 5:47:50 PM

badge said:
The original post says XFX X58 SLI Mobo (A1). I was confused by this too.



Look 2 up from your last post. I put in that I accidently labeled the wrong motherboard that I have. I don;t know why XFX was in my head. GSKILL doesnt have my EVGA motherboard shown in the list.
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December 21, 2009 5:58:15 PM

mikeny said:
Look 2 up from your last post. I put in that I accidently labeled the wrong motherboard that I have. I don;t know why XFX was in my head. GSKILL doesnt have my EVGA motherboard shown in the list.


You need to be looking at the QVL list on EVGA's site :

http://www.evga.com/support/mbmem/default.asp#X58

DDR3-2000 **
OCZ OCZ3N2000SR2GK 1GB


DDR3-1800 **
Corsair CM3X1024-1800C7DIN 1GB
Kingston KHX14400D3K2/2G 1GB
OCZ OCZ3N1800SR4GK 2GB


DDR3-1600 **
Corsair CM3X1G1600C8D4 1GB
Corsair TR3X3G1600C8D (3x1GB)
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-2GBNQ 1GB
G.SKILL F3-12800CL7D-4GBPI 2GB
Kingston KHX12800D3LLK3/3GX 1GB
Kingston KHX13000D3LLK2 /2GX 1GB
OCZ OCZ3G1600V6GK (3x2GB)
Patriot PVT36G1600ELK (3x2GB)
PQI MFADR401PA0102 2GB


DDR3-1333
Corsair TR3X6G1333C9 2GB
Corsair TR3X3G1333C9 1GB
Crucial Ballistix 1GB
G.SKILL F3-10600CL7D-2GBPI 1GB
STAREX STH100UD0815-1333A 1GB
STAREX STH200UD0825-1333A 2GB
Micron MT8JTF12864-1G4D1 1GB
PQI MFACR401PA0101 2GB


DDR3-1066
Kingston KVR1066D3N7/512 512
Kingston KVR1066D3N7/1G 1GB
Micron MT8JTF12864-1G1D1 1GB
Micron MT16JTF25664AY-1G1D1 2GB
PQI PQB3648S19R MFABR322LA0106-08B8 1GB
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December 21, 2009 6:04:49 PM

OvrClkr said:
You need to be looking at the QVL list on EVGA's site :

http://www.evga.com/support/mbmem/default.asp#X58

DDR3-2000 **
OCZ OCZ3N2000SR2GK 1GB


DDR3-1800 **
Corsair CM3X1024-1800C7DIN 1GB
Kingston KHX14400D3K2/2G 1GB
OCZ OCZ3N1800SR4GK 2GB


DDR3-1600 **
Corsair CM3X1G1600C8D4 1GB
Corsair TR3X3G1600C8D (3x1GB)
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-2GBNQ 1GB
G.SKILL F3-12800CL7D-4GBPI 2GB
Kingston KHX12800D3LLK3/3GX 1GB
Kingston KHX13000D3LLK2 /2GX 1GB
OCZ OCZ3G1600V6GK (3x2GB)
Patriot PVT36G1600ELK (3x2GB)
PQI MFADR401PA0102 2GB


DDR3-1333
Corsair TR3X6G1333C9 2GB
Corsair TR3X3G1333C9 1GB
Crucial Ballistix 1GB
G.SKILL F3-10600CL7D-2GBPI 1GB
STAREX STH100UD0815-1333A 1GB
STAREX STH200UD0825-1333A 2GB
Micron MT8JTF12864-1G4D1 1GB
PQI MFACR401PA0101 2GB


DDR3-1066
Kingston KVR1066D3N7/512 512
Kingston KVR1066D3N7/1G 1GB
Micron MT8JTF12864-1G1D1 1GB
Micron MT16JTF25664AY-1G1D1 2GB
PQI PQB3648S19R MFABR322LA0106-08B8 1GB


Thanx for the list. I see my sticks aren't on the list. My sticks are: F3-12800CL8TU-6GBP. I also found this on newegg:

System locks up when running Prime95 when the memory is running at 1600 MHz on an EVGA x58 SLI motherboard. XMP has a problem.

Other Thoughts: This memory is supposed to be for overclocking, but I can't get a stable system unless I underclock it to 1066 MHz.

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December 21, 2009 6:11:14 PM

Even if you modules are not on the list they should still work. First off you need to change the timings and voltage in order to get a stable system, Not all boards will detect the correct settings. Have you manually changed these values in the BIOS?

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December 21, 2009 7:43:12 PM

OvrClkr said:
Even if you modules are not on the list they should still work. First off you need to change the timings and voltage in order to get a stable system, Not all boards will detect the correct settings. Have you manually changed these values in the BIOS?



Yes. Then I changed it using XMP in bios. When my system was underclocking the sticks...no problems. Ever since I changed the ram settings, I was getting BSOD's daily, then did XMP in bios. Everything was fine for a while and now if I plug my iphone or my wife's iPod in the USB port, sometimes the mouse and keyboard lockup. If I press restart, it will freeze at the post screen that shows BIOS, cpu speed, RAM amount detected and the LED light on the motherboard says "75," which is Detect HDD name and description ide device detection. If I completely shut my system off; it loads fine.
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December 21, 2009 7:46:47 PM

Well I doubt that is a RAM issue....Have you updated the bios recently?
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December 21, 2009 7:56:22 PM

no, haven't updated it since I got the motherboard. Something like that makes me nervous, but Im thinking Im going to have to do it. I was going to do it when I got the motherboard (downloaded the update, burned it to a disc) but chickened out. I emailed EVGA to double-check and see if they will also ask about the BIOS.
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December 21, 2009 8:12:04 PM

OvrClkr said:
Well if you do everything by the book you should not have any issues at all... You can also contact EVGA if you need any assistance.

There are several ways of Updating the Bios :

http://www.evga.com/support/drivers/default.asp?switch=...


Thanx!

I will probably go the way of burning to disc. Im just confused after the flash (Ive never seen it flash) the instructions say shut off system completely. The system will let me know when the flash is done? If I read it correctly, after shutting down completely, I press the clear CMOS button, turn on system and then go to BIOS and load defaults.
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December 21, 2009 8:18:53 PM

The easiest way is with a thumbdrive, unless you already know how to set your CD-ROM as primary boot device . The link I sent you was supposed to show the actual Bios update that you need to burn. Not sure why it came up empty... Anyways Click on Mainboards, then click on x58 Series, then E758-X58 SLI Bios and you should see the download link....
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December 25, 2009 11:46:37 PM

OvrClkr said:
The easiest way is with a thumbdrive, unless you already know how to set your CD-ROM as primary boot device . The link I sent you was supposed to show the actual Bios update that you need to burn. Not sure why it came up empty... Anyways Click on Mainboards, then click on x58 Series, then E758-X58 SLI Bios and you should see the download link....



Got it. Just completed the bios flash. Seems like everything is ok. On the post screen, it's showing the new bios sz2z (11/20/09) and loaded fine. After the update and such, it's back to underclocking the RAM to 1066. After all that, Im like, you have to be kidding me. SHould I go into the bios and click XPM profile? EVGA told me to use XMP profile and yepp, there's the problem. System runs good when its underclocking the ram. As soon as I lifted it to 1600 either by changing the setting itself, or using XMP profile...the blue screen of deaths return.
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December 28, 2009 2:43:28 PM

If you cannot get your ram to run at 1600Mhz, try 1333Mhz and raise the bus a bit. I run my 1600's at 1333, then I raised the bus a bit and now i am stable at 1425Mhz....
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December 28, 2009 7:08:12 PM

OvrClkr said:
If you cannot get your ram to run at 1600Mhz, try 1333Mhz and raise the bus a bit. I run my 1600's at 1333, then I raised the bus a bit and now i am stable at 1425Mhz....


Wow!
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a b } Memory
December 28, 2009 7:17:01 PM

badge said:
Wow!


Sup badge ;)  ...... How did Santa treat you??
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a b } Memory
December 28, 2009 7:21:43 PM

OvrClkr said:
Sup badge ;)  ...... How did Santa treat you??


I just noticed you put that 1333MHz. deal in one sentence. Ta da! I have a little time off, so planning some local burglaries to compensate for what Santa failed to put in my stocking. Considering becoming an Arsonist for a new Years's resolution.
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December 28, 2009 7:31:26 PM

badge said:
I just noticed you put that 1333MHz. deal in one sentence. Ta da! I have a little time off, so planning some local burglaries to compensate for what Santa failed to put in my stocking. Considering becoming an Arsonist for a new Years's resolution.


Yea I hear ya... I got a note from Santa saying that if I wanted a better gift next year I need to bake him something better than cookies :lol: 

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